phosphorous does not allways mean meth cook.

I have done many match box rp removals in the past and would never think
of waisting my time working with psuedo.

truly though the answers to all these questions on acquisition are to be found at chemical
disposal depo's.

normaly the security is pritty slack on these and they nearly always have crap loads of white and red
phosphorous.

if your making meth its so damb easy to just do a small batch of around 10g then bribe some hard heads
to get what ever you need from a depo you have found in the phone book.

thats the nature of the meth game and one I shall never play again.
you may say im a changed man

be warned though if you get the game down and your asking these kind of questions you are not
one of the big guys.

its just as easy to bribe some of thouse hard heads to hurt people rather than jump fences.
the players that last the longest are not the best cooks but rather the best thugs.

this I am not sure but I have been over a few fences and well I always could get heaps of it.

maby its becouse when a company shuts down and has a surplus of it they must account for
the left over and this is were it goes.

normaly in oz anyway it goes to the depo were it sits untill it is either destroyed or recycled.

other things I have found in places like this are spent plat cat (great to refine and take straight to the mint)
tons of ochems like DMF acetonitrile tons of different phenols.

I have found heaps of iodine and sodium metal as well.

what I find very interesting at these places is they all have weird oxidising agents made from ketones.
I have only found per acetic in a few cases.

there are four types of meth cooks in oz.

hypo
birch
nitro ethane
and phenyl acetic or we just call them phenyl cooks.

of course you have a few people that are independant that use aldol and other routes.

the nitro cooks and the phenyl cooks are often family orentated and in adelaide
the hypo are getting there stuff from plating places
and the birchers jump fences for the ammonia.


no one I knew of wants to even think of useing RP as its too slow.

as for the use of phosphorous I can not say either.
at a guess it may have come from schools or be used to make organophosphines.
or even for HI reductions as its more economical and safer than useing HI as the reagent regenerates the HI
and the reaction wont take off like hypo.
again all guesses. most of the labels were all hand writen though so schools would probably be
the case.

Isn't RP used as a solid lubricant for some machine parts or something?  NIckel-Phosphorous rings a bell.

think eastern europe and this is from a guy that knows chemical markets

no there were some blowouts from companies in places like lithuania but they closed shop they had every naughty chemical one could concieve of i thought surely they were a sting but no they were'nt look in that direction eastern europe has very loose regulations.

I must say, the occurence of blatant sourcing threads such as these, specifically with discussion about how best to cover up orders to make them seem 'legit' (although I consider clandestine use legitimate, morally speaking) is disturbing.

Should it really be allowed here?