america is a bigger terrorist than that try 70 dictatorships around the world

yeah isreal eygypt el savador guetamala this country has had it's hands in so many dictators it's hard to keep up.

Bitch of it is, unless debt is created money isn't created. So, you do have to spend your way out of debt, actually.

I'm always amazed at how many otherwise brilliant people are oblivious to the money creation mechanism.

I'm always amazed at how many otherwise brilliant people are oblivious to the money creation mechanism.

Lol, the list of "otherwise brilliant people" certainly does not include yourself. Obviously, the meme refers to exogenous creditors, ie China. Perhaps you think a feasible means to pay down the debt is to expand credit lines and rack up a slew of bills, payable by credit, of course.

Yeah,fair share of people actualy understand "how money is created",but it definitely won't save your eceony,it might only enslave the whole damn world on the long run.

Wizard X, good thing you mentioned that!

Today USA establishment will rather pull the whole world in doom than start practicing isolationism again.
After all,that is their only reson for existence,they don't represent will of American people any more,they dumbed down general public by such degree they are can do anything and go away with it,democracy fails here!
This group of people solely motivated by interest,not ideology.
And this is only hope,intersts stops once when you know who to endanger. Money and power won't do them any good if they are dead!

This is good example if you keep in mind that this document is surrender of allready shattered,technically post-3rd Reich Germany,not 3rd Reich and national socialist movement.
Technically,it was only establishment in history of mankind (that I am aware of) that fought to the end and than started fighting again.
That ideology itself is apocalyptic,there is only "we or them",it can only go quite for a while and start acting again or die trying.
They can't surrender,anyone who is in position to sign such treaty in name of movement and is willing to do so is automatically considered enemy of the movement,expelled and order is to shoot him.

I am trying to say here that you can't really compare these two.
You can't beat ideology,ideology will only go stronger if you go rogue with it,(remember Vietnam!)
it must collapse from within or triumph from inner reasons. Personal interest is another beast...

Oerlikon, you're right. Further enslaving people is the only way to keep an economic system like that in place.

I still believe that a time of reckoning is coming that will shift wealth back to it's more natural position, where people who produce things of value will take back their rightful spot at the top of the food chain.

Most people hope that one day they have enough money to light a cigar with a few hundred dollar bills as a way of saying 'I made it'. Not me, I wanna light a cigar with a fucking banker. I don't really plan on saying anything when the day comes that I get to, except maybe to mention that even on fire, a banker isn't even as good as a two cent wooden match.

I know that wealth isn't money. When money loses it's value the rearrangement I mentioned will happen.

the politicians are nothing more than the front men for the banking interests that devalue currency, start turmoil, and then go on buying sprees. warren buffett's having a field day buying it all up.
and so goes the consolidation of wealth.

Of course it's gonna be bloody. I took no offense to your post, none whatsoever. Think of it this way, at this point in time we perceive money as the end of the line in the representation of value. Bankers issue credit, which becomes currency on the basis of debt. Back in the olden days you had to have a piece of gold or silver before the government would print a note saying 'This much gold exists somewhere and this note is just as good as the gold the gold itself'. Now, since becoming a part of the European banking system (the fractional reserve system of banking), it's exactly the opposite. The bank issues credit for the thing of value before the thing of value even exists. We see bank credit as something personal to us, a loan that we must repay, but infact it goes much deeper in that it is even credit to the thing it represents. This is why consumerism is pushed on us so heavily. We must consume resources wastefully in order to keep that equilibrium between credit issued and real goods that it represents, few people see this, but there it is. The government now prints paper bills that represent a promise to create something of value and by decree make us honor it as if it were actually the thing of value.

Now, when you have a private organization as the mechanism that is creating the money the way we do with banks, and this mechanism hits it's limit because the math simply says it has to, you have a big problem. These organizations, essentially the most powerful entities on earth will not give up that power just because the credit they issue is now worthless. At the end of the day we have all pledged allegiance to these people and promised to either repay them by giving them back someones else loan money or give them the thing of value that their credit brought in to being. At the end of the day it's all about promises and IOU's, and you know what they say about honor among thieves.

Anytime you threaten to shift or change that thing which gives power you start a war. Usually this is over a piece of land, either for it's military value or it's resources or both. This next war will be for something much bigger, the right to create the money that will enslave the masses.

I would certainly expect some blood.