Methadone should never be injected, sounds like you already know that, but for those who don't... it does tremendous damage to your veins, believe it's almost a corrosive effect, and it lays waste to your liver. Very physically harmful, much more so than banging heroin.

Same goes for hydrocodone I hear. Pill-wise, I've only ever injected oxycodone and dilaudid. I don't include the morphine I was being prescibed because injection is the only way to do morphine lol.

i do everything IV.

it's a dirty habit ive developed i guess.

thanx dudes, your opinions mean a lot to me.

It sounds like an extraordinary substance.....I wish I had had some about 30years ago!

Yeah, I too can take or leave most things, but as you know, when one is feeling dope sick, its fuggin hard to keep ones mind off it.

I find opiates dont actually "relieve" pain, they just make it easier to "ignore" but the kind of pain I have only truly "goes away" when I am asleep, and I REALLY like my sleep, BUT the fuckin pain keeps me awake....currently I am lucky if I sleep for 4-5hours 3 nights a week.
  I tend to stay awake for 2-3days at a time, and then I might get a few hours sleep..it's fuckt

Reminds me of tyler d in fight club, at the beginning of the film, when he talks about insomnia....although I cant really call this insomnia, more like "discomfort induced" sleeplessness.

Its very tempting to use anything to get some sleep, but I dont even like taking benzos for more than a few days! (and smoking dope doent put me to sleep..infact neither do opiates, unless I have taken them for a few days in a row!)

Its the strangest trade off, becoz although I really like my sleep, I also like the clarity which comes from being "clean"(from everything) yet if I dont sleep I feel like I've taken a bunch of opiates and benzos, a few days earlier and have a "hangover" from them!

And the pain stops me from being active enough to I tire myself out...man its 3am and I got about 3hrs last night! fuck fuck fuck!

    hopefully I will be having some more tests (bone biopsy) to figure out wtf is causing this bullshit pain!  If I stay lying down I'm ok, but it only takes a few hundred mts walking, or standing for a few minutes, and the pain can get to about a 7/10 on the "ouch" scale" (9 or 10 and I'm howling in pain and cant move!) although not always, but often enough that I'm very reluctant to even try it!

One part of me says "fuck it, just give me the drugz" and the other part wants to stay "clean and serene" as I really enjoy a clear mind...but whats the use of a clear head IF I cant go anywhere, or use it...man this is pissingme off!
 
man o steel, it great to hear you are doing so well, i too have constant pain, and I too have been free of an iatrogenic (dr induced) drug addiction for about 4months, and yes, its great to be free of any "habit".

Did the Iboga have any effect upon the "amount" of pain you felt MOS?

and tryl, if you didnt take the stuff "recreationally" why DID you take it? as it to try and deal with your opiate addiction, or just to get fuckt up?




 

if that makes you feel any better, my impressions are all of us around here are nicely fucked up one way or teh other.

i've had 2 liver biopsies, been through hepatitis, overdoses and suicides, and fuck me, 30 years?!
 
lol.

i won't ask how old you are, but suffice to say im below the 30 mark.

opiates will not put you to sleep, quite on the contrary.
antihistamines i've found to work best for me.

i took ibo to get off the opiates because i came at a point in my life i felt it's either i get my shit together or die.
david graham scott's "detox or die", which btw is on youtube, was the BBC docu that convinced me this actually works.
dude actually saved my life, and it turned out so that we are now good friends.
i never looked upon ibo as being anything even remotely recreational.
i was even scared shitless of it the first time.

the refined HCl shit is insanely expensive.

i have a good connect in gabon.
they are VERY nice people, and i cant understand shit from the brand of english they speak.
but suffice to say, with war going on all around, gabon is quite the neighborly/peaceful place, i'd imagine the fact that they gotta get high on a nearly lethal dose of ibo at the age of 16 has something to do with that.

anyway, been looking into the voacangine to ibo conversion for some.... years, now.
finally found a supplier.
i can't afford the enterprise at least by teh end of the month, and there aren't that many ppl out there interested in that substance, but i'd feel like doing a good deed for mankind making a voacangine to ibo writeup.

so feel free to join in on this.

and before i wake up to the fact i can no longer log in here, i feel obliged to say this shit is as legal as yogort in europe, ok?
US, schedule one.
europe, you sell it online.
just FYI.

i know pulmonary talcosis was epidemic where you live, at one point.
before ppl became acquainted with micron filters.
i mean, fuck's sake, just give junkies drugs, doesn't in any way worsen the quality of life apparently, maybe even on the contrary..

Actually I think not tolerating EtOH is probably the thing which saved my life!

god, you've no idea how right you are about this, cause i feel it might be the death of me some time in the future.
it is toxic shit and not even that good of a high, but...

i do everything IV.

it's a dirty habit ive developed i guess.

same, thats the only thing i hide when i go to therapy, hah

and methadone - oh, hate it. i feel so disgusting when i have it in my system. and my worst experiences with drugs are related w/ that beautiful substance - waiting in front of the national methadone clinic, 7:00 in the morning, 25 junkies in a line for their doses (or for buying some from the buddies), it was mindblowingly awful. the people acting as starving rats, just going to the nearby 'bushes' to shoot up w/ the gigantic syringes. worse than being w/ 20 gypsies (as the only white man around) in a shithole when the heroin dealer is due to arrive.
as a non-using friend of mine says 'these people on the 'done seem like rotting away empty shells.'

and you started an ibo conversation, neat.
after my 3 serious attempts to go trough a flood dose i had a big relapse, but after ibogaine it is not really the same thing opiates&me. now i can feel how they don't give me 'what i need'. but i still wonder what would've happened if i managed to get deep as i should. what happened to me i think of more as just detox sessions.

f, im not good at writing posts.

well, not full blown, but w/ a chance to get a little deeper. but sometimes i fear that ibogaine is another thing my organism can't handle properly...funny how the best i had was that first time you sent me these miserable capsules. feeling how the info travels down from the neurons to every part of the body...

it was going to be much much much worse, you on methadone.
once when i was at 'zelenoto' i saw the exact same injection scar on the hand of one of the 'done sweethearts and i told myself 'fuck no, i may be awful, but i'll try not to become like them.'

let's just admit this, heroin is pretty fucking awesome.
and no dose of ibo will make you deny it.

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