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Lief
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:46 am |
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I'm not Christian.
Iraq and other mid east countries formed out of the colonies that France and Britain had in the mid east. The reason Saddam Hussein came to power was because the British made the Sunni Arabs leaders in Iraq a long time ago. Saddam Hussein was just one of the dictators in the line of Sunni kings and dictators that the British put in place in Iraq. All of this is historical fact. The communists in Europe try to blame America for everything, but the facts speak differently.
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http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf
Top three suppliers of arms to Saddam Hussein, 1973 - 2002
USSR: 57%
* France: 13%
* China: 12%
Then, in order of importance:
* Czechoslovakia: 7%
* Poland: 4%
* Brazil: 2%
* Egypt: 1%
* Romania: 1%
* Denmark: 1%
* Libya: 1%
USA's sales -- 1 percent. None provided before or after the Iraq-Iran war.
Syria hiding Iraq WMDs
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36463 |
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:58 am |
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| I'm not a communist, and I blame the US for everything. It is a fact that the British were trying to spread gentrification and correct English across the world. Look at the Americans: bad English, worse manners. They don't even know how to match a pair of shoes to a good suit. Supremely vulgar. And as for burgers, well really! |
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DjTime
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:59 pm |
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You'll never change a thing. WHY? Because all you wanna do is sit at home and burn pictures of President Bush, and your bra's. You want to complain about why the government fucks you, but in all reality your fuckin the government by sittin at home and making drugs that shit is illeagel as fuck at least fight for your country if you wanna break a million laws. I hope that your govermnets find you and nail your scared little asses to the cross. Because while these teorror cells are plotting to blow you, and your familes up and piss on there chemicley chared remains in the name islam and jihad. Real patriots, real men and women, true guts and glory soldiers of a FEW countires are out there right now as i was 5 months ago finding these people on there soil, rooting them out and trying to put an end to the killing with killing. I hate war too, I hate having the duty to put three bullets in somebodys ass because they dont stop a car. It's happened and will KEEP ON HAPPINING. As long as bin laden and zarqawi are out there. You and your family will never be able to rest.
It's going to happen again, another major attack. It may be in London, or Paris or fuckin Sydney, who the fuck knows? They do and they dont care that your mom was on the way to get bread or your wife was picking up your child from school. THEY DONT FUCKIN CARE!!!!!! I've seen it first hand a little girls face was plastered all over the ground in front of me, just her damn face! No bones just blood and skin and hair becuase a suicide bomber wanted to blow up the haifa street police station in downtown baghdad to keep future police off the streets and show there dislike for the new govt. HOW FUCKIN PETTY WAS THAT?????. WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU INBREAD HIPPIES!!!!! Your not safe until this shit at a severe halt! Do your job, put your bullshit tears in the box and carry around in your pocket to look at later and fight for your family if not your country. These are your families roaming these streets that will be taken from YOU. Get of your nerd asses and fight for what is yours. These families are yours. I want to keep mine alive and away from torture. I will kill who ever and whatever gets in my way to keep that true.
Pikkilo, and joe and ms. thatcher.... I bet you guys would watch a kid get hit by a car and not do shit about it because your scared to put yourself out there. I could care less what you guys think what is right or wrong in the name of the us. It doesnt matter because you fucks are all meaningless loosers who probably cry yourself to sleep at night wondering why your just a nobody. You'll always be that way too unless you devolpe a sense of pride and do whats right. The US is right in all that we do and your little punk ass statements cant do shit to change that. I will kill who ever and whatever gets in my way to keep that true.
Say what you want, say how vulgar i sound, or how stupid it looks for me to mention these things. Well i have another bit of news for your nerd asses, NOBODY FUCKIN CARES ABOUT YOU!!!! We founded our country because we decided to stand up for ourselves and we think is right. We are a testiment of not getting bullied the fuck around. So in true AMERICAN fasion im not gonna let none of yall bully me into thr thinking that we are a bad country or we have a bad president. America is bad ass and i hope bush stomps a mud hole in whoever gets in our way. We got rules like everywhere else some of em suck, true. But i would'nt live anywhere else. Were on top it's human nature to want to be king of the hill, well for now just keep hatin and finding reasons cause it's gonna be a while!!!! |
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Star-light
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:49 am |
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I could care less what you guys think what is right or wrong in the name of the us
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You do, otherwise you wouldn't be getting so worked up about it!
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at least fight for your country if you wanna break a million laws
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True, the invasion of Iraq was against international law after all.
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The US is right in all that we do
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You don't seem that well informed.
What was the level and nature of threat posed to America by Iraq? |
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DjTime
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:14 am |
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I get worked up because these are lives of your families and countrymen you put so carelessly at stake. Do you have a family, have you ever had a christmas, or a birthday party, or a fun night out with your freinds? Your loved ones are at more and more at stake the less and less you care. I love life, liberty, and the freedom to chill out. So i fight to keep it for myself and those whom i love. I cant believe so many people are so nieve about what is going to happen if these people get out of control.
Your queoting me the wrong way and you know it. I was speaking about the drugs you synth. If you want to synth and break the laws of your country at least repay your moral ineptitude by serving the people whome you break there laws.
I am very properly informed. We are right in all we do.
Iraq was a low threat, however that is not the point. They could have become a threat with more collaberation with al queda. Look i was there and have seen first hand the terror these people bring. If you want you can witness it first hand. Join a peace corps of some kind and go be the true peace loving person you are and help these poor defensless people against the invading americans. You will find that you will be highly alone in your bad thoughts of the us. After 5 months away from iraq i still recieve a few emails a week from kids and college students i got to know over there that still thank the US. Im gone from there, away... why would they still write me if i was so bad? I bet your gonna come back with some BS excuse as to why you cant go over there and help out...... but in the end we'll see who was right!
It's funny how you all talk of the violence and wrong we cause. What the hell do you think you are doing everyday buy making your drugs and selling them? You are fueling the blackmarket, which fuels violent crime. Baghdad is getting better as we are rooting out more terrorists. Fallujah also. Yes innocent people get hurt by us trying to make good. But innocent people get hurt in your allies by the bad you are doing with your drugs your making. Your no different. |
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pikkolo_z
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:25 am |
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dj i would have proably been there if my dad who was a pilot in the air force . through vietnam and derset storm . made me swear on my lfe that i would never join a armed force .
but with some things i agree with you but others i do not but that is why you and others are fighting right ?
also i love my country and i comend what you and others are willing to sacrife. but i do not belive that this was handled right. and if you are so against drugs why are you here? |
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The_Dude
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:36 am |
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Djtime, it is quite obvious that the carefully crafted, multifaceted levels, of indoctrination have permeated your subconcious and rendered you an imbicile.
You are the sort of person that "kissed the school bully's ass" in school, and are therefore part of the problem, not the solution.
Why is it that libertarians are always presented as effeminate, limp wristed individuals???
It takes a hell of a lot more guts to stand up to your own government, than it does to attack, on it's command, a far weaker one.
Ghandi, Luther King, Mandela etc., are capable of a level of courage and principle that is beyond your simpleton comprehension. |
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:55 am |
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| I thought Djtime was a satirical PolytheneSam type character. Am I wrong? |
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pikkolo_z
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:11 am |
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| i belive so MT . sam would be going way out there. but who knows |
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Star-light
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Re: re: US Still Using Napalm
Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:22 pm |
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I get worked up because these are lives of your families and countrymen you put so carelessly at stake.
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Nope, it is not me putting them at stake.
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Your loved ones are at more and more at stake the less and less you care.
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I care a lot - I just think that the solution to the problem was not invading Iraq illegally on false pretenses.
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What the hell do you think you are doing everyday buy making your drugs and selling them?
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That's not what I do. You are making incorrect assumptions.
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I am very properly informed. We are right in all we do.
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That is naive. For another perspective have a look at the book "Undestanding Power" by Noam Chomsky. Now, you may rant about him and call him a commie, but have you read the book?
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Iraq was a low threat, however that is not the point.
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I bet your gonna come back with some BS excuse as to why you cant go over there and help out...... but in the end we'll see who was right!
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anime
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Re: re: US Still Using Napalm
Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:29 am |
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Star-light, dont you know that Amerikans are always right and since they are the super power they can do anything they want.
You family is in danger by the starving Iraqi childen. Good deal that the US is there to free them from their hunger by filling them up with depleted uranium shells. |
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DjTime
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:34 am |
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It's obvious some of you have no clue what your talking about because you arent and never will be there. I have personally given my lunch to those kids and went the next 9 hours sweating my ass of in 130 degree heat waiting for the next suicide bomber to run his damn truck into our convoys.
The problem is so extensive. We cannot possibley feed those kids all day, everyday but i gaurntee you we do our best and much more than saddam ever did. Despite what you all belive about what was the right and wrong decisions for invading iraq, i can personally tell you it was the right one. Even if on false pretense who god damn cares. They have freedom now, they can lead lives, and it will take time. They are no longer being tortured by saddam and his thugs. Be happy for them, christ do what you can to help them to. Or just sit here on the net all day and talk about how you would do something if you could. You hold no weight against me, you have no relavance in my life. Give it up if you cant help out too.
Im not aginst drugs in the least bit. I think it should be a choice to take, make or sell them not a law against the latter. I belive everyone has a right to decide for there own but i belive in rule of law and this is the choice you make when you live on this earth. Governments can be great if ran properly. The US hasnt always made the best choices, but it's still a great nation. Despite what you make think of her, you cant argue we help much more than anyone else. Not for the fame but because it's the right thing to do.
War is never the best option, killing innocent people isnt either but that is a result of war. And doing nothing would have killed many iraqi's than war ever would. It's estimated that nearly 1 million were killed in his time as president. Does that sound like good numbers? I guess if your satan.
Think about it for second.................... |
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anime
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Re: re: US Still Using Napalm
Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:09 am |
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It's obvious some of you have no clue what your talking about because you arent and never will be there. I have personally given my lunch to those kids and went the next 9 hours sweating my ass of in 130 degree heat waiting for the next suicide bomber to run his damn truck into our convoys.
The problem is so extensive. We cannot possibley feed those kids all day, everyday but i gaurntee you we do our best and much more than saddam ever did. Despite what you all belive about what was the right and wrong decisions for invading iraq, i can personally tell you it was the right one. Even if on false pretense who god damn cares. They have freedom now, they can lead lives, and it will take time. They are no longer being tortured by saddam and his thugs. Be happy for them, christ do what you can to help them to. Or just sit here on the net all day and talk about how you would do something if you could. You hold no weight against me, you have no relavance in my life. Give it up if you cant help out too.
Im not aginst drugs in the least bit. I think it should be a choice to take, make or sell them not a law against the latter. I belive everyone has a right to decide for there own but i belive in rule of law and this is the choice you make when you live on this earth. Governments can be great if ran properly. The US hasnt always made the best choices, but it's still a great nation. Despite what you make think of her, you cant argue we help much more than anyone else. Not for the fame but because it's the right thing to do.
War is never the best option, killing innocent people isnt either but that is a result of war. And doing nothing would have killed many iraqi's than war ever would. It's estimated that nearly 1 million were killed in his time as president. Does that sound like good numbers? I guess if your satan.
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The people in Iraq are not free. They will never be free aslong as the United States has its troops there. Besides the purpose of the war was not to free the people, it was to elminate the threat of weapons of mass destruction. Oh where are those weapons now?? If you think the United States actually gives a fuck about the people in Iraq you are sadly mistaken. (Individual soldiers, individual people may).
Bush and his troops of American teenagers with guns (which most soliders are btw) have killed well over 20,000 Iraqi civilians. The current body count for citizens sits between 22k and 25k. The US is certainly doing a good job at keeping these people 'free'.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ has well documented data on the death toll. |
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methyl_ethyl
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re: US Still Using Napalm
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:21 am |
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Allright,
All of your points are met with deaf ears. That is the way it has been for thousands of years, and it ain't gonna change any time soon.
Sam: your postings are Never going to persuade, The_Dude, M_T, Pik, Anime, Star_Light, or any others into seeing things your way. So do everyone including yourself a favour and pick up a few journals, or search a few patent databases, hell, do some worth while work on microwave isomerization. Quit wasting your time on this endless battle.
The same goes for everyone else, now that we all know how y'all feel about socio-political issues. Thank you for your time, and your concerns. Now that we know where everyone stands we can move on to more important issues.
Don't think for a minute that this board will harbour your political arguments, many of you have been banned once or twenty times on numerous boards for this behaviour. I don't personally plan on banning anyone because you all historically have the ability to contribute positively to the chemistry forums. So instead of wasting your own, the boards, and everyone elses time and bandwidth by posting such worthless drivel, perhaps you can contribute to the board in other ways, kind of like how it used to bee. I have no problem with argument, I learned more from hive arguments then you can imagine. I have yet to converse with anyone that learned anything from a political or religious argument on any chemistry related board.
I am all for free speech, just speak somewhere else. There are plenty of right wing, left wing, communist, socialist, republican, independent, libertarian, and even a few W.I.G. forums where your arguments will be greeted with open arms, by those that have the knowledge, and understanding to converse intellectually, to challenge or embrace your arguments.
Why bring these topics up in a chemistry forum?
Afraid that your arguments would never stand a chance against a forum whose member base is predominantly political scientists?
Onward,
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