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tetraedr

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re: DOC: Two attempts

 Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:59 pm		 Reply with quote
I have decieded to try sulfuryl chloride (SO2Cl2) instead NCS for this reaction, but I also do not have this reagent. It is ordered and I am waiting.
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radio879dmt

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re: DOC: Two attempts

 Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:51 am		 Reply with quote
I have some pure DOC (was just analyzed), and have experimented as well as other people. The doses listed in pihkal seem really low for this one.. and i'll have to read it again but maybe the description isn't exactly right on, maybe this is why?,

now, this guy posts at the shoomery, and this i just saw in a huge stupid br-dragonfly thread and got my attention especially after reading this thread at this forum,

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When his DOC, made from the recipy, was analysed on a german university it proved to be a mess of polychlorinated DMA's. The university concluded Shulgin's procedure did not have what it takes and developed an alternate route via chloro-succinimide.
The entire recipy was bad, no less than in a chlorinated phenolic ether awfully close to enviromental pollutants and thyroid hormones.


Now, this guy seems to be full of shit by some of this other posts somewhat, but, well i suppose i should PM him and ask what his source is for this, anyone know anything?

I'm wondering how good this 3,4,6-chloro compound is compared to DOC, maybe its better, but seems like you gotta take a helluva lot more than the 2.4mg's listed in pihkal reports.

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DOSAGE: 1.5 - 3.0 mg.

DURATION: 12 - 24 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 1.6 mg) I was hit with a slightly light head; the effects were quite real. I was disconnected, and somehow spacey, but this was a favorable spacey which was kind of fun. Somewhere at about the sixth hour I realized that I was beginning to drop off a bit, but six hours later yet, there was still a lot of memory. This is a long thing.

(with 2.4 mg) This is what I might call an archetypical psychedelic. Everything is there in spades, with few if any of the subtle graces, the `gentle images' and `gentle fantasies' of the 2-carbon phenethylamines. This is the works. There are visuals, and there are interpretive problems with knowing just where you really are. The place where nothing makes sense, and yet everything makes sense. I have just slept for a few hours, and now I am awake and it has been eighteen hours, and there is a lot still going on, although I have a relaxed, good feeling. Anyone who uses this had better have 24 hours at their disposal.

(with 2.4 mg) Here I am at the sixth hour, and I am still roaring along at a full plus three. I have established that this material is neither anti-erotic nor anorexic. The body is very comfortable, and so is the mind. There is an interesting aspect, perhaps peculiar only to this experiment and under these conditions. With my eyes closed the fantasy is a completely dark screen, lovely and seductive, subtle, and yet light must be deliberately brought in. This is not in any way negative for being in the dark, but is just unusual. I will have to try this in the daylight next time, to see what the eyes-closed brings to the mind-screen. At 24 hours, I have found that my sleep was not too great. My dreams were tight, and I kept defending against trouble; the nervous system was too alert. I was in a good humor, though, and I still am. This is excellent stuff, but start early in the day.


Yeah.. none of this sounds like DOC, i'd say a minimum for a dose would be 3.0mg, and most people aren't going to be tripping for 24 hours, maybe 12, if they're lucky.. or its a high dose.. But, whatever they took, it sounds better than DOC anyway..

--- and lets say a friend of a friends dogs friend had some DOC, and was curious if they could take that and make some 3,4,6-chloro-2,5-DMA

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(wit 2.4 mg) This is what I might call an archetizzles psychedizzle. Perpetratin' is there in spades, wit few if any of tha subtle graces, tha `gentle images n `gentle fantasies of tha 2-carbon phenethylamizzles n shit. This is tha works sho nuff. There is visuals, n there is interpretive problems wit know'n jizzy where you really are . You'se a flea and I'm the big dogg. The place where nuttin' makes sense, n yet everyth'n makes sense . Snoop dogg is in this bitch. I hizzy jizzy sliznept fo` a few hours, n now I am awakes n it has bizzle eighteen hours, n there is a lot stizzill going on, although I have a relaxed, good feel'n


fo' shizzle nizzle?
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