extraction from poppy straw

zub · Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:53 pm

my invisable friend was thinning his garden yesterday. the poppies were thick. they were just beginning to have little flower buds; they hadn't opened up yet.

i picked about about ten small plants; stems and all...left the roots behind.
the green mass easily fit in a 2 qt pan. i didn't weigh the biomass.

next, i par-boiled the greenery...just enough to soften it up.
then, i sent it thru a juicer and discarded the roughage.
next, filtered the juice. this part was a drag. the tiny particles of cellulose and such really clogged the filter paper. impatiently, i ended up squeezing the liquid thru the paper...did this about 3 times.
had about 8 oz. of greenish juice.
mixed it with an equal amount of lemonade and drank it down, slowly.
not that delicious, though better than poppy tea from dried pods.

bio-assay:

it was great. watched movies on the back of my eyelids; slept late; woke up all dreamy.

so.

there you go.

zub · Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:33 pm

having had time to reflect on this experience, i realize (i think) that i could have had the same experience by just cooking the greens and eating them, along with whatever water was used to cook them; same like spinach.
i'll try that next.
the juice was awesome. it was sparky, like a health food drink. came on very gradually, and eventually left me wobbly and dreaming.
my invisable friend is not new to poppies and their extractions. he says he likes this beverage much more than straight morphine or poppy tea extract, or opium.

during this bold an significant experiment, swim also set aside some of the fresh juice; filtered it to near clarity; evapped out the water until their was a black tar in the beaker.
this goo was only distinguishable from opium in that it was stronger.

this deserves a seperate thread, for sure. hopefully, someone out there will notice what i'm saying, and question it. in which case, i'll elaborate.

i amazed that i never bothered to try this before, nor have i heard of anyone else doing this.

have any of you folks ever heard of this?

i can imagine canning this juice . or even the cooked greens.

fuck poppy straw...the immature plant is edible! and has all the morphine it will ever hope to accumulate in its seed pods.

this looks like endive in a garden; not the golden triangle.

anyway, i'm pretty stoked about this. it feels rather revolutionary.

zib out

stratosphere · Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:34 pm

is there much of a point to processing the stems? i thought most of the alkaloids accumulated in the pod?
the figure ive read is that you get about 30mg morphine per pod for an average plant. i don't know what the wet/dry wieght of an average pod is.

ive also heard of there being heat sensitivity issues and you should never boil them, im not sure what reaction takes place, someone once said you get psuedo-morphine, which stereo center changes im not sure.

but for someone just casually interested i don't see the point to extracting the morphine,as the tea should suffice, but if your interested in semi-synthetic work (heroin, dilaudid) then you have to extract.

zub · Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:18 pm

as per heat sensitivity, one would think that smoking opium would not work.
actually, for me, it barely does work that way, which isn't to suggest that there IS a heat sensitivity issue...swim has boiled the fuck out of dried pods for tea that kicked butt.

still, the fresh juice of the whole immature plant is the best ingestion form swim has ever had. true, its hard on a juicer. swim used a heavy-duty champion brand unit for his experiment.

not to bee an ego-maniac, but it does surprise me that this 'breakthru' has garnered no intrest.

i imagine that its also the way to go for those wanting furthar extractions.

simply RED · Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:57 am

It was summer time. Just after the poppies mature and dry.
I collected some pods and made a nice tea.
Even got a pic, to recall some good event from the heat...

http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict00061av.jpg

zub · Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:30 am

i'm saying no more on this topic. let it bee known that something of interest was revealed here. take it from there.