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hydroxalamine in nabh3cn?

Started by ZZACk, November 27, 2001, 04:39:00 PM

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ZZACk

if one were to  use a dry meoh/ ketone solution and use hydroxylamine instead os annac or methylamine in a slightly acidic solution.before adding nabh3cn.
would one make mdoh or would they have to form the oxime then rereduce it?
hypothetically speaking of course.
Z

Go Ugly Early

Rhodium

That would produce MDOH, see

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal114.shtml



If MDOH is heated too much (as in distillation for example), it disproportionates into MDA and MDP2P oxime.

ZZACk

thanks rhod,
would one go about extracting the unreduced ketone, and removing the mdoh in dcm and then gassing or would another solvednt bee better? also how would one remove the meoh without convertingf the mhoh to oxime and mda i would guess with a vaccum distillation.
Z

Go Ugly Early

Rhodium

Follow the exact procedure in Pihkal and you'll be fine. There is very little unreduced ketone in there, mostly the ketone reduced to the alcohol.