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Tsathoggua

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Re: Alginate production method competition
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2011, 07:51:04 AM »
What I was trying to say, was that not only does one want alginate, but the right KIND of alginate, with the right exact ratio of G to M monomer subunits, AND the right distribution of said subunits, it isn't the AMOUNT of G-monomer built into the alginate polymeric structure, or the M-monomer unit, but blocks thereof, and the length and proportion of one to the other.

Different algae/seaweeds produce alginates of different composition, and they do have notably different properties, high G-block frequency alginates being better suitable for ergot encapsulation, and are, if I remember properly, more mechanically resistant.

Chemical synthesis of such a complex polymer with such specific requirements for suitability for various different applications I think is a route to going nowhere, if one has a specific need, I.E biological encapsulation of microorganisms, then buying them is definately the most certain way to having any chance of getting the right one that will give optimal performance, failing that, finding or growing the right species of seaweed (although growing it might be tricky for all I know, and harvesting enough wild product to give enough for one to start a largescale production of microorganism, although I am of course thinking Claviceps purpurea or C.paspali myself, could be hard as hell, not sure how much alginate those seaweeds actually yield, and purifying it might just be a royal mother of a bitch to get right)

Of course if one were  just aiming to use it  for a gelling agent  for cultures in petri dishes then food-grade alginate is cheap enough.

I am of the opinion that the ONLY way to MAKE specific alginates, given they have such tight requirements and high complexity,  would be to clone the gene sets into yeasts, or bacteria, but there is a snag there, alginate is thick, viscous and gelatinous, that is quite likely to significantly interfere with oxygen transport and uptake in culture, once it starts getting secreted into the extracellular medium. How would you personally, like to breathe oxygen-impregnated  motor oil? :D
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Re: Alginate production method competition
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2011, 11:30:56 AM »
Azotobacter chroococum was found to produce 5-7.5 mg/mL of our desired alginate when grown on whey protein media.  maximum production of alginate was obtained from whey broth.  The alginate was isolated through centrifugation followed by treatment with TCA (easily sourced, it functions to remove unwanted proteins) followed by filtering and wash with NaOH.  It is then precipitated with ethanol.

A very cost effective, low profile way to produce alginate.

Further Azotobacter chroococum cultures can be bought for cheap here: http://www.enasco.com/product/LM00907M
It also can be found in soil samples (but who wants to dig for it) or isolated from some commercially available probiotic blends.
I'd assume there are other culture libraries that could be tapped.

The full paper can be viewed here:http://www.ceers.org/ijest/issues/full/v4/n4/404003.pdf

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Re: Alginate production method competition
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2011, 12:38:34 PM »
Interesting...but the yield doesn't sound too good.

For ergot production, I would be wanting kilograms of encapsulation material, not grams or milligrams, I sure wouldn't want to have to ferment, and process a few hundred liters of whey broth :p
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Re: Alginate production method competition
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2011, 03:59:21 PM »
so 5 grams per liter using ultra cheap diluted weigh broth is actually considered a very acceptable yield.  Your going to be getting a much lower yield of ergotamine per liter... how much alginate do you require?  From the look of it you say you want 2.3-3% in solution per liter.  So each liter of alginate produced this way would sustain two liters of your ergot media

Of course the easiest method will always be purchasing in bulk.  If you are one that is afraid of your mail man (eh some people are)  it appears available in many arts and crafts stores.

The main advantage to culturing your own is being able to vary the alginate composition by varying the variables in the substrate.