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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2011, 12:11:33 AM »
Customs opened my ibogaine then sent me a letter sayin that they had seized illegal contraband and that they were deliberating on how to proceed.

Several weeks later I got the dope, all taped back shut with yellow tape :)

They didn't open the sealed bags of ibogaine but they opened the main package. I'm guessing was what was written on the bags that made it okay. Something about being for lab analysis or something. Cost me $500 for two grams, glad I got it.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 12:22:13 AM »
Not a great scan. USA Patent No. 2813873 "Derivatives of the Ibogaine Alkaloids. http://www.puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/janot1957.pdf
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2011, 12:31:34 AM »
People are so paranoid. If you think about the effort it would take for the cops to find you through anything you do online, it's incredible. Even if you told the city you lived in and posted a million pics of yourself, still it would take a lot of work to catch you. You have to really be worth the effort. Buying something illegal online is incredibly risky since you have to give an address and at some point take possession of the goods. Had I not been desperate to get clean, I probably would not have done THAT. Some people think I tell too much on these boards, but it's whatever. It would take a task force to hunt me down and it may not even be possible then lol. It's been my experience that the most paranoid people are ALWAYS the ones that get caught. If you are gonna do risky things and those things pay a dollar or two, give part of it to an attorney, keep that bitch on retainer. You aint gotta pay taxes, you might as well. It's worth it just for the peace of mind. But, swim and all that shit is a joke. First of all unless the crime you committed is somehow involved with the internet, nothing here will ever be brought up as evidence. It doesnt hold up in court and prosecuters know that. If you're in court, you got popped, and not because you forgot to say swim lol. It was because you did something stupid like trust the wrong person or sell your wares in your own hood by the nickel sack.

I dunno, maybe a bit off topic, I'm sorry if it is. Just had to say that.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 12:34:08 AM »
I tried a total alkaloid extraction from a metric ton of root bark before I broke down and bought the HCl. I didn't have any luck. Then again I had no real chemicals or glass or anything, plus I was strung out lol.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 01:25:28 AM »
On the other hand if you get caught (for example you have a fire or God forbid a fight with your wife or girlfriend.) Once the cops get your computer everything you've written can be easily used against you.  

This is serious business.  You don't know what a feather in a cop's cap it is to take down a "lab" the fact you never made a damned thing won't matter to those idiots.  And the federal govt rewards local departments with manpower and equipment via grants.  In order to maintain the grants the cops need numbers.  Don't think you want to be one of them.

Read the tale of Sergiy Matirniy.  As far as I can tell he didn't have any meth being made and the pool store owner was just dumb.

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 09:33:46 AM »
500 $ for two G. ! WOW ! And what happened to the metric ton ? Extracts of it are easy to make useing alcohol . .

TO silk road and co .and "I wouldnt look at them if i had eyes in my arse" .......

I`ve known about 4 or 5 sites like that for the last 3 or 4 years but after hearing the prices that are charged and...........THINKING ......... about the risks i never tried any of them . The fool that does use them has to give an e-mail adress to join and get his confermation . He has to let a member know what he wants and give a postal adress . Both those things are known by the seller , the ISP if he  wants to know and anyone who can get a look at the data base . Then there is the trail of money . Bit coins are SHIT because things one can buy with them are more expensive than if one used cash . The exchange rates to real cash are idiotic . <---------- comes from several reports about them in the press lately .

Those sites or at least their existance is open public knowledge = poly-trickers know about them and because of that they will probably do what they are doing with bath cleaners , plant food and saliva . The post is also aware of them and contrary to popular belief they check all international post useing their own criteria = one gets the before mentioned invitation and all the ones i`ve seen / recieved never said what the post had found . I`ve also had letters with drugs in them stolen while in the post . Here the post employs sub contracters for transporting post . They also take their toll of interesting post . Then here they have a big x-ray machine wich they use to scan suspicious post and the customs use dogs to sniff whole containers . Some of the post worker use the x-ray machines to scan cards at christmas and then steal them so one has had to stop sending cash and valuables by post .

Then we come to percy pig . When he gets informed he has to act . When he does the trail is relatively clear = he comes for a suprise 3 am visit and rapes ones whole house . Then he offers deals .1 - you go to prison for years because of the amount of times you have bought or sold things .  And because of that amount of times he adds the threat of a conspiracy charge = BIG shit if it happens as conspiracy = just talking to someone about doing something illegal . 2 - You tell us everything and only go to jail for half trhe time or do your time in an open prison . 3 - you work for us and dont go to prison . Then when one gets to court similar offers are made by the judge and the prosecution ( <-- persecution ? ) .

The dumb fucks that do a deal are then OWNED by the pigs = for the rest of their lives the pigs want their help and say if they dont get it they will out you = the people you have set up or informed on are not pleased and show it violently .

The person / people you get the stuff off also OWN YOU and have details that could incriminate you and those people as suplyers have much mor ereason to take one of the offered deals .

And please lets not get childish and say "It wont happen to me " . "It only happens to paranoid people" , "I`m to small to get problems" ....... we are not telepathic and we cant see into the future and we cant predict what pigs or courts ( < ------- Cunts ? ) will do with us . We also cant be sure that we only get problems for one post . If the pigs come they often find things people had not realised could be a problem or had forgoten . HDDs are also often sources of info .

SO ....... as an experienced person "I wouldnt look at sites like that if i had eyes in my arse" .....AND ....... when i read that naive and unexperienced people use them i feel it my duty to tell them .

To ibogain for getting off opioids . So your saying that you have incredible pain and get pain killers from your doc and your adicted to them / are adicted to other illegaly obtained opioids ? What would be the point in useing ibogain if you need the opioids for the pain ? AND either ibogain works because it blocks the effects of opioids = your pain killers wont work , OR it blocks the longing for them by blocking some sort of brain mechanism = how would that effect your needed pain killers , OR its the trip = just take other trips and think about what your doing and through that give your adiction up .......and .the effects of withdrawl can be massively minimalised by useing cannabis

I`ve been adicted to a load of different drugs from fags through the pharma drugs to heroin and its as easy as pie to stop being adicted = stop takeing it and maybe feel shit for 6 weeks or feel shit all your life . The main part is to stop feeling sorry for oneself and stop being a wimp . .

Please insert fuck , shit and bollocks where you feel its needed ........... and if anyone wants to moan about my posts AGAIN the answer is simple = DONT READ THEM . Thanks .
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2011, 09:42:59 AM »
Please insert fuck , shit and bollocks where you feel its needed ........... and if anyone wants to moan about my posts again the answer is simple = DONT READ THEM . Thanks .

Your posts are safe in the Den.  ;D

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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2011, 10:57:13 AM »
Salat, truer words have never been spoken. IRL, I share this shit with no one. My girl has no idea at all. I don't trust people in real life. I've never had the privilege of knowing a person who would not fuck you over in an instant. As for my computer. The drive itself is natively encrypted and all my chemistry stuff is on a separate partition which is itself encrypted and really sensitive stuff is encrypted again! To my knowledge blowfish encryption has never been broken. If they could break it, it would take the country's best crime lab years to do it.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2011, 11:41:12 AM »
"Your posts are safe in the Den. "

Bean a cantancerous cunt i shall duely test that to the limits .......

Encrypted hard drives / storage devices ......in the unUK one can and does get locked up if the forces of evil want to take a look and one refuses to suply the password . One would think that as that is so in its main slave / puppet state it will also be true in "The land of the free and the home of the brave"(?) = there might be similar "laws" ?

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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2011, 12:21:32 PM »
My lawyer would insist that I forgot the passphrase. Years of drug abuse have wrecked my mind. If you had the passphrase you could look and see that my computer has not had a reboot in over a year.

Your honor, my client would like counter sue for the lose of his information when these goons shut his system down without asking. Hahahaha
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« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2011, 12:50:04 PM »
"My lawyer would insist that I forgot the passphrase. Years of drug abuse have wrecked my mind. If you had the passphrase you could look and see that my computer has not had a reboot in over a year. "

1 - Lawyers cost B - I - G schekels . ....... especialy ones that are willing to say more than  "Sorry my lord , my client had a bad childhood and will never do it again" .
2 - The judge would say ....... "Bollocks"............ AND ...... "Do not pass go , do not collect 200 $ and go to jail for two years"
3 - Wich passphrase ? To get into the composter or the code password ? If you mean to get into the computer it would take a little longer as a reboot takes to get in .
4 - If vou use it on the net the ISP would be able to show that .
5 - If its true whats the point in haveing the info ?
6 - If you have used the computer on in that time there is no way you could hide it . Its stored in a part of the registry you cant get at ........... maybe if you http://www.dban.org/ it = long time after useing it each time .
7 - "The lord works in mysterious ways" ........ so does the law and judges ....... NEVER ....... think you can fool them , are one step in front of them or that you have covered all posibilitys . .

Dont want to insult you or hurt you ........ BUT ........people who use answers like that and land in prison have a mini skirt and mascara on and blood dripping from their arse within seconds................

I rest my case your honor . BYE .
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« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2011, 01:00:34 PM »
It's obvious you don't understand how encrypted filesystems are mounted.
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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2011, 09:44:23 PM »
no you don't refuse to give information you invoke your 5th amendment privaledges this way you are not acting in contempt of a judge's request.
same with the police don't "refuse" a sobriety test that sounds like you have something to hide.
rather, praise the virtues of the 5th amendment of the united states of america and the founding fathers that wrote it.
actually today patriots are considered terrorists because the founding fathers used guerilla tactics.
and terrorized the british so don't get too patriotic.

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« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2011, 11:09:57 PM »
"Your posts are safe in the Den. "

Bean a cantancerous cunt i shall duely test that to the limits .......

Encrypted hard drives / storage devices ......in the unUK one can and does get locked up if the forces of evil want to take a look and one refuses to suply the password . One would think that as that is so in its main slave / puppet state it will also be true in "The land of the free and the home of the brave"(?) = there might be similar "laws" ?

That's why truecrypt with a hidden partition is useful. Just put a bunch of pr0n in the main partition for plausible deniability purpose, then have the sensitive information in the hidden partition.

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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2011, 11:37:33 PM »
Jon i did say ---->

"One would think that as that is so in its main slave / puppet state it will also be true in "The land of the free and the home of the brave"(?) = there might be similar "laws" ?"

I dont know US law but are you sure that the powers of the pigs / department for homeland security and similar shit dont now since the war against islam include bits that might be used in cases like that . In the unUK the main US puppet state the laws were changed because of the war against islam and now one has no right to silence and no right not to incriminate oneself . People have been put in prison for refuseing to give the pigs passwords for hard drives .

I just read the 5th amendment and it has limits and conditions its not absolute and we both know how twisted the pigs and courts are and that if they cant get a person one way they have ways and means of getting them another way .

Anyway i stick by what i said about silk road and co , about clever dicks and prison , about anyone who thinks that they can fool the pigs and courts with silly storys and excuses is naive and as far as i`m concerned what i`m saying is more realistic than thinking one can .

Its irelevant because if they have other evidence evidence that they would need to start an investigation = from the post , the customs , the seller , the web site ISP , the people at the web site with database acsess and / or the buyers ISP they dont need to see the contents of a hard drive thats coded . And anyone saying that they hadnt used the computer for years when the courts could prove that they had would be punished for giveing false evidence to the court . They would dtill have the mac adress and the browser refer info and other info that could identify the internet link and computer  = basicly the same difference = the naive person is up to his neck in shit . The same goes for the buyer going for the 5th amendment they still have the evidence that started the investigation and the info from the buyers ISP and ?.

= buying from sites like that is for kamikasis and clever dick answers and excuses mostly dont work .

EverlastingReign ...... hidden from who ? If the pigs take a hard drive the forensic lab that they give it to to investigate would soon see that there is something on it that is hidden . Even i could see that if i had a look .

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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2011, 12:31:56 AM »
EverlastingReign ...... hidden from who ? If the pigs take a hard drive the forensic lab that they give it to to investigate would soon see that there is something on it that is hidden . Even i could see that if i had a look .

No, it's impossible to see what's on an encrypted volume or even whether it's encrypted until after the correct cryptographic key is entered. There can be two seperate file containers hidden on the same volume, with two separate keys.

Anyways, read this plz http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=plausible-deniability

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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2011, 01:27:37 AM »
actually today patriots are considered terrorists because the founding fathers used guerilla tactics.
and terrorized the british so don't get too patriotic.

:(

I know.....
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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2011, 10:03:48 AM »
EverlastingReign....... maybe i explained badly or maybe you missunderstood . A hidden partition is very easy to find . A sensibly encrypted anything is at the moment imposible to crack .  That means that the codeing works but hideing it is a waste of time unless one only wants to hide it from people who havent got much computer knowledge . When the pigs find anything thats coded they are naturaly suspicious . If the hard disk was siezed in a criminal investigation involveing the net the hard disk would be examined and maybe in doing that taken apart ? There is also a good posibility that if the owner wouldnt get it back in a condition that he could use it = be able to get his information back it might not be given back at all .

reDEEMed a few obvious questions . Could you please answer without being childish , snotty or evasive ?

1 - How was the metric ton of iboga got past the customs ?
2 - Are you saying you bought it through silk road or another similar site ?
3 - If you didnt get it through one of those sorts of site where did you get it from ? I dont mean the adress or name of the suplyer .
4 - Why did you obtain it as you dont know how to use it ?
5 - Why did you obtain it as you dont know how to extract it ?
6 - You probably couldnt use a ton of iboga in your whole life so what did you buy it for ?
7 - In the light of the first six questions why did you pay the price wich with other costs would have made it very expensive ? Buy price . Transport costs . Maybe import tax . Maybe other taxes . Storage .
8 - To the two G. of ibogain . How are you going to dose it ? What is a dose ? How are you going to use it ?
9 - You say you are in bad pain and need opioids so why would you do an anti opioid adiction cure with iboga ? The iboga cure wont work if a person still takes the drugs ?

Thanks .
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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2011, 01:53:02 PM »
I was just kidding about a ton lol, I bought a kilo or so and it came no problem. The ibogoine HCl is what got caught up in customs. I got it from a supplier in south africa, not the same supplier who sold me the root bark. I did all the ibogaine stuff a while back, when I was heavily addicted to heroin. That was before my accident and before I needed pain pills to function. The extraction on the root bark did not work because I wasn't committed enough to it. I did a half assed job at best using things like vinegar and baking soda. The HCl  I dosed all at once, 1.8 grams (the dose recommended by the supplier based on my body weight). I was flat on my back for three days having the most intense and realistic hallucinations I had ever had. I literally could not tell dream from reality. The place I bought it from forced my wife to do a phone interview before they would sell it. I was unable to talk since I was trying to get clean and had been three days with no dope. I could hardly stand and had no energy. Of course, hours later I stole my wifes car and went and got dope because I thought I was going to die. When the ibogaine showed up many many many weeks later I went to my moms house and told her I was addicted to heroin and took the ibogaine there and she took care of me for the 72 hours it took until I was able to get out of bed. It still took another week or so to regain some strength. The shit is so powerful. It has no potential for abuse IMO.

It did work, I had no sickness at all, but I still had a very strong mental addiction. I was in contact with a nurse the whole time who ran an ibogaine clinic illegally in baltimore. She has since been busted and lost her license to be a nurse over her work with ibogaine, nice country we live in, eh? Anyway, she said that I need to do my normal amount of dope the night before I dosed and all that, so I did. Before bed I shot three bags and went to sleep. The next morning my mom woke me up EARLY AS FUCK and handed me the capsules I had filled with the ibogaine and a glass of water. I tossed em down and fell right back asleep. The second day into it I came to for a short amount of time, heavily hallucinating, I had a mouse in bed with me who wrote me three books lol and I loved her soooooo much. I wanted a shot so bad. For some reason my mom did not pick up the needle and spoon and syringe by the bed. I took water from the glass by the bed and put it on the old cotton that was still in the spoon and shot up that. I would estimate it took me atleast 30 minutes to an hour to do that, but I really don't know, it seemed like two hours. I was totally incapacitated, yet I stayed on task until I saw that register and pushed that liquid in to my veins. I immediately passed back out. That is how strong my mental addiction still was. I wanted to feel that pin prick so bad. It took quite some time of not using before that went away. The ibogaine made it possible because it removed the previously insurmountable obstacle of dope sickness. It does work, but only on the physical aspect and it wont work if you are addicted to methadone. As for the price, it was $500 for two grams shipped. The cost of shipping was $95, so you can deduce the cost per gram from that. So, it cost me what 5 days of dope cost me to get clean since I was spending at minimum $100 a day on heroin and shooting tons of molly on top of that when I was supposed to be selling it. there at the end I shot a full half pound of molly up and never sold a single grain of it. Sad shit, man.

I'm sorry if you think I would be childish or snotty, you must have mistaken me. I'm sorry if I came off that way at anytime.
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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2011, 02:24:41 PM »
Thank you very much for that . You answered all my questions . .

The information i have ----> The dose for full effects is up to 200 G. of powdered root either swallowed dry or cooked as a tea = a water extraction.  Pure Ibogain is dosed at 40 mg a kilo of body weight to get a full experience . The root is suposed to contain about 1 % mixed alkaloids . There is a diference in the effects of both methods of consumption because the root contains several other alkaloids besides Ibogain .

The bottles in the pictures contained one dose and were extracted with Ethyl Alcohol . They were legal to buy and make at the time i was given them by the profesional chemist that made them .