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jon

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Re: PTSD
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2011, 12:40:34 AM »
  keep your dose low onset can be 3 hours, so don't assume your underdosed, a lot of drugs can "get you" that way.
no i never did amt it sounds scary and unpleasant to me so i won't touch it.

  no 7-oh and 7-keto is not an anabolic it simply blocks cortisol the cheapest place i found it is at vitacost.
this is a legal product.
when you offset your testosterone cortisol ratios testosterone goes unopposed so it can exert an anabolic effect indirectly.
i used it also in post cycle therapy to counter muscle catabolism from hormonal imbalances after long steroid cycles.
but i noticed to and if you read up on it, it does have this calming effect and lends mental clarity because cortisol can muddy your mind.
and when you block it, it can be beneficial.
you do need some cortisol for joints and other things it serves as a natural anti-inflammatory so  be judicious about that.
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Re: PTSD
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2011, 01:38:52 AM »
AMT sounds quite promising to me, 5-methoxy-AMT on the other hand, now that sounds scary and unpleasant, the two drugs are different beasts altogether. 5-MeO-AMT sounds utterly vile.

Hmm...now this is a surprise...I just found 2 mushroom capsules that The Bitch made, and must have set aside, empty indometacin capsules stuffed full of P.cyanescens. And I know where a large jar of stems is, that tea can be made from. I figure I will have a bit of a creative night, see what I can come up with for my music.  Along with 2g (so far) of lyrica, and a tub of cookies and cream vanilla ice cream, that should be just the thing :D

As for cortisol being nescessary-I am well aware of that, I know full well what the effects of clinical hypocortisolism look like. My dear lady can't produce ACTH, and likely also CRF. And her cortisol levels are low, and another friend of mine, who has Rett syndrome (she is a moisaic for the MECP2 mutation so she can walk and talk...well, usually she can talk, other times she has to sign, as for the walking, always, she is a gymnast, and quite physically fit), her epileptic fits damaged her hypothalamus, leaving her unable to produce CRF and ACTH. She has to take steroids if she undergoes any stress at all, even throwing up, or else its a hospital trip.

And I have spent the last two years perhaps, reading up on the HPA-axis, including the CRF receptor subtypes, ACTH, POMC, the melanocortin receptors, CRF binding protein (and its relative affinities for CRF in the ovine, murine, bovine, fish species), CRF-BP inhibitors, you name it, I've been reading about it, in the hopes of coming up with something useful for my girl. So, whilst I appreciate the caution, it is unnescessary. And I probably still have some hydrocortisone here that I was using for opioid withdrawal, experimentally. And if needful I can easily order cortef, dexamethasone amps, prednisone, etc. Metyrapone looks interesting also, although I have no source for that.

I'm glad my MXE is going to arrive tomorrow along with the AMT (which is legal here, IIRC the bans only covered ring-substituted n,n-dialkyl tryptamines, leaving such things as 5-MeO-DALT, DALT, AMT, AET, etc. legal), I will be very glad to have a break from the hyper-aroused paranoia type business when cars roll up or people knock on the door. 2g of MXE will last a long, long time, in terms of relief from that, one hole level dose seems to prevent it for a good while, and a small bump once or twice a day can have that continue indefinately.

I think this time (I say this time, as I have been through quite a few 2g orders of the stuff, its not quite my DOC, but close, very close) I should get around to getting out the needle kit and IMing some.

 
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Re: PTSD
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2011, 02:08:58 AM »
i'm not as well read as you are i was talking about lowering cortisol levels not increasing them.
it's a fine balance sometimes you need to supplement it and sometimes it's beneficial to block it's action.
7-oh dhea seems to help that jumpiness your talking about.
also for benzos phenazepam is great stuff because it's so cheap.
and legal too.
i once got 10 grams for 120 bucks and it's dose is 1-2 milligrams.
if you overdo it you will be amnestic for days.
it lasts twice as long as klonopin and is equipotent.
let me know about that amt, here it is schedule I, but no matter, they still sell it.

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Re: PTSD
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2011, 02:58:39 AM »
Yes so was I, at least, in me. Its my girl who has the low cortisol levels. Thats why I have been doing so much research into ACTH/CRF neuropharmacology, as she is very, very dear to my heart, finally I met someone truly special, to say she is one in a billion, would be a monumental understatement.I've got over half a grand saved up, and still saving, so I can fly over to her.

I don't need to buy any benzos, lol, not likely to either. Although buying a gram or two of phenazepam might be worthwhile due to pricing. I had, until a couple of weeks ago, a nitrazepam script, used to get 14 5mg tabs every two weeks, and I rarely used it, I still have almost all of those scripts unused. Also I have diazepam and temazepam that were scripted to my former pestilent bitchcow from hell housemate, that she certainly didn't get given when I kicked her arse to the curb (and kicked her arse full stop, she had it coming, and went for me, giving me the perfect excuse to flatten her with a karate punch to the temple haha)

I had the script changed pretty recently to chlormethiazole, which is MUCH more effective than any benzo, it acts more like a barbiturate than a benzo, it will kill in overdose, unlike a benzo, its what killed keith moon from The Who, he had taken 32 heminevrin caps, apparently, 6 of those would have killed him..although I'm not so sure about that, I've taken close to that without any hint of respiratory depression or other typical symptoms of overdose. One other issue with it, I found out several years ago when I had a veritable gorilla of a sedative habit on my back and overdid it with chlormethiazole, was its tendency to metabolise to a thiol derivative of some form or another, which will quite literally make you stink to high heaven, and will make you sweat, piss, salivate mercaptan stench. No amount of showering or mouthwash will get rid of it. That ruined several items of clothing. I ended up not changing any of my clothes, and wearing a set of clothing I didn't like much until it wore off, then threw it all away, as the stink is very persistent and impossible to get rid of.

But as long as it isn't overdone, its a great drug, completely stops the nightmares and overstimulation.

Also, I have a lyrica/pregabalin script, 300mg/d although I'm getting my doc to up it, he wants to do it slowly, too slowly for my liking really.  Got that for the neuropathy I have at the side of my bad knee, after the surgeons accidentally cut or damaged a nerve. I took about 3g of the stuff earlier, and damn, it is euphoric as hell. Don't do it very often, but occasionally, its quite a good recreational substance.

So, I'm not exactly short on GABAergic drugs, or other, similar inhibitory agents.

Have quite a lot of fly agaric on hand too. Its soon time, I think, to go searching the woods, and see if there are any fly agarics to be had, come the season for them, there will be a good few kilos to be scrounged most likely. Last year, I had way too many for the ovens capacity, and had to do batch after batch to cure them.
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Re: PTSD
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2011, 06:20:49 AM »
yeah i remember taking clomethiazole.
it had some weird side effects i did'nt like it all that much.

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Re: PTSD
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2011, 07:26:01 AM »
Damn jon...what haven't you abused :P

wierd side effects? what sort of wierd side effects?

It is a histamine releaser also as well as a GABAa ligand. I get a sharp pain in the bridge of my nose every time I take it, if I don't preload with a couple of antihistamine tablets. Once I do that though, no pain. In spite of that, I quite like it.
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Re: PTSD
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2011, 08:01:09 AM »
A good long walk in the woods with a good friend and a trip sounds like a good general life elixir and therapy . Gotta get the balance of memorys changed = make new experiences that take the weight from the old bad ones and fill ones mind with other biug memorys . The more bigger positive experience one makes after PTSD i think the less the bad ones look big = put ten big guxs in a group that used to have loads of smaller ones and one big bully and the bully dont look so big anymore and dont get taken as mutch notice of .

As for icecream and cookys  ...... do they make fish flavour or do you make your own ?

To them capsules from the poxy syph brain dameged cow ......... throw them ....... they could have the nasty mushrooms in them ?

Cannabis helps with ( against ) bad memorys and also cortisol problems acording to what i`ve read . Saw something a few days ago when / if i wake up i`ll post a link . Think i`ve had a life long cortisol over dose .

"hyper-aroused paranoia type business" .......Know what you mean about cars and people knockin on the door ........ conditioned reflex ....... I got "Fuck off" writen on my doorbell to stop the satans witnesses and other nuts driveing me round the bend / avoid stress attacks .

To fly agaric . Was never impressed with the effects . Then was given some wine made with them . 50 - 100 mls was REALY nice and the effects were totaly different than just eating the dryed mushrooms ...... very calming and relaxing . Ever tried plant / mushroom extracts / wine ? Worked well for a lot of human history and cuts out shit pharma industry .

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Re: PTSD
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2011, 09:11:37 AM »
Its cookies and cream flavour ice cream. Fish flavour? that sounds friggin vile.

The caps, no, I know the amatoxic mushroom wasn't in there, I know what went in them because I packed them for her. Anyway they got chowed down.

Weed,,,I don't smoke much these days, I have memory problems, so I only blaze now and then.

Fly agaric wine? I can't drink wine, I can't get it past my nose, let alone drink it. To my tastes, wine is disgusting stuff. I usually brew tea from the heat-cured mushrooms.
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Re: PTSD
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2011, 10:02:25 AM »
This aint what i was talking about but its about stress = cortisol , memory and brain cell / function protection ----->

http://psychcentral.com/news/2011/07/13/researchers-study-methods-to-reduce-age-changes-in-brain/27697.html

Some day i`ll maybe try putting some "scientists" in a tank of water without any platform ........ evil bastards .

Anadermide is suposed to be for or play a role im dealing with bad memorys .. Also have link to that somewhere .

i dont like wine either tastes like rusty nails / piss to me . .......Wine is just a description i use to distinguish between beer , liquors , spirits and this stuff . The only things in it were fly agaric , water , sugar and yeast ....... ...... the stuff was about 16 - 20 % alcohol with the fly agaric goods in it . Tasted a bit like coughmixture . Never tried that tea .


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Re: PTSD
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2011, 01:10:32 PM »
mmmm...Postie did his duty, toady is pleasd. Too bad he couldn't share a cup of pod tea with the  guy.

A quck bump of  MXE, that truly was what the doctor ordered. Now to catch some rest, with Draconian and Epica blasting out in the bacjground. Two of his lines of methoxetamine have ben spiked wth just a trace of light tan, indolic-smelling powder. just a few milligrams, that should open up toady's mind and perhaps allow hm to work through some issues.


Damn.....it is VERY hard to type whilst under the influence of methoxetamine, excuse any spelling errors. My usual rapid touch typing ability just went down the shitter. And that is after just a couple of little stress-relieving bumps. After the AMT base-spiked lines, I doubt I will be able to post for a while:P
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