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fresh1

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Re: re; Anonymous
« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2011, 04:10:05 AM »
pps. thanx for the cool links frank, yo B&E are another great act,,, and I can see/hearwhy "what I want" is your theme song...."I do the fuck what I want'  ;D 8) lol

Oh, and btw vesp, I watched the MilF vids, and I must say they are a tad dated!!! Plus he just blames the Govt for pretty much everything, by saying its "their fault" the education system is fuckt, minimum wages are too low.....I'm sorry but my brother in law is an economist and the CEO of the Oz Forex dept of one of the WORLDS largest banks,, and he has No Reason' to bullshit.... :P

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« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2011, 01:45:44 PM »
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Re: re; Anonymous
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2011, 06:05:44 PM »
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WND Exclusive
Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill
Publishes extensive study on 'Psychological Causes of Political Madness'
Posted: November 12, 2008
6:33 pm Eastern

© 2011 WND



WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

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"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

    creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
    satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
    augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
    rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

 

 thanx  baba.........fascinating!

 I cant say I'm surprised!!!

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Re: re; Anonymous
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2011, 09:47:23 AM »
here you go Vesp, a slightly easier to understand manipulation of "the facts" as  presented by the ron pauls of this world, called,

    The Drinkers Paradox....tell me this is EASY to explain :P.............the words "if" changes EVERYTHING...so "if" those "wonderful creative types" whatever....this is how "logical" the argument 'IS'....

        SO many folks get "tricked" by arguments of this nature, its truly sad, and imo, the essence of the deception used by advertisers, and the companies that employ them, including LE, i.e. "all drugs are BAD so, IF, we stop the drugs, EVERYTHING will get Better!" etc ad nasuem :'(


           The drinker paradox is a theorem of classical predicate logic that states:

"There is someone in the pub such that, if he is drinking, everyone in the pub is drinking."

           The actual theorem is............    \exists x.\ [D(x) \rightarrow \forall y.\ D(y)]. \,

The paradox was popularised by the mathematical logician Raymond Smullyan, who called it the "drinking principle" in his book What Is the Name of this Book?

                                 
                                                                        Proof of the paradox

The paradox is valid due to the nature of material implication in formal logic, which states that "If P, then Q" is always true if P (the condition or antecedent) is false.

The proof begins by recognizing it is true that either everyone in the pub is drinking (in this particular round of drinks), or at least one person in the pub isn't drinking.

On the one hand, suppose everyone is drinking. For any particular person, it can't be wrong to say that if that particular person is drinking, then everyone in the pub is drinking — because everyone is drinking.

Because everyone is drinking, then that one person must drink because when ' that person ' drinks ' everybody ' drinks, everybody includes that person.

Suppose, on the other hand, that at least one person isn't drinking. For any particular nondrinking person, it still can't be wrong to say that if that particular person is drinking, then everyone in the pub is drinking — because that person is, in fact, not drinking. In this case the condition is false, so the statement is true.

Either way, there is someone in the pub such that, if he is drinking, everyone in the pub is drinking. Hence the paradox.


This proof illustrates several properties of classical predicate logic that do not always agree with ordinary language.

        Non-empty domain

First, we didn't need to assume there was anyone in the pub. The assumption that the domain is non-empty is built into the inference rules of classical predicate logic. We can deduce D(x) from \forall x D(x), but of course if the domain were empty (in this case, if there were nobody in the pub), the proposition D(x) is not well-formed for any closed expression x.

Nevertheless, free logic, which allows for empty domains, still has something like the drinker paradox in the form of the theorem:

    \exists x.\ [x=x] \rightarrow \exists x.\ [D(x) \rightarrow \forall y.\ D(y)]

Or in words:

    If there is anyone in the pub at all, then there is someone such that, if they are drinking, then everyone in the pub is drinking.

                        Excluded middle

The above proof begins by saying that either everyone is drinking, or someone is not drinking. This uses the validity of excluded middle for the statement S = "everyone is drinking", which is always available in classical logic. If the logic does not admit arbitrary excluded middle—for example if the logic is intuitionistic—then the truth of S \or \neg S must first be established, i.e., S must be shown to be decidable.

As a simple example of one such decision procedure, if there are finitely many customers in the pub, one can find one person who doesn't drink. But if S is given no semantics, then there is no proof of the drinker paradox in intuitionistic logic. Indeed, assuming the drinkinginfinite domains leads to various classically valid but intuitionistically unacceptable conclusions.

For instance, it would allow for a simple solution of Goldbach's conjecture, which is one of the oldest unsolved problems in mathematics. It asks whether all even numbers greater than two can be expressed as the sum of two prime numbers. Applying the drinking principle, it would follow that there exists an even number greater than two, such that, if it is the sum of two primes suffice to check whether that particular number is the sum of two primes, which has a finite decision process. If it were not, then obviously it would be a refutation of the conjecture. But if it were, then all of them would be, and the conjecture would be proven.

Nevertheless, intuitionistic (free) logic still has something like the drinker paradox in the form of the theorem:

    \neg \exist x.\ (\exist y.\ [N(y)] \rightarrow N(x)) \rightarrow \neg \exist x . (x=x)

If we take N(x) to be \neg D(x), that is, x is not drinking, then in words this reads:

    If there isn't someone in the pub such that, if anyone in the pub isn't drinking, then they aren't drinking either, then nobody is in the pub.

In classical logic this would be equivalent to the previous statement, from which it can be derived by two transpositions.

                           Material versus indicative conditional

Most important to the paradox is that the conditional in classical (and intuitionistic) logic is the material conditional. It has the property that A \rightarrow B is true if B is true or if A is false (in classical logic, but not intuitionistic logic, this is also a necessary condition).

So as it was applied here, the statement "if he is drinking, everyone is drinking" was taken to be correct in one case, if everyone was drinking, and in the other case, if he was not drinking — even though his drinking may not have had anything to do with anyone else's drinking.

In natural language, on the other hand, typically "if...then..." is used as an indicative conditional.


 I hope this helps :o
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