How about using encapsulating compounds like cyclodextrins etc?Just a thought.
Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2009, 10:59:20 AM »
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 04:04:59 AM »
dogs are amazing what they can smell--i mean WTF does a dog smell when its "following' the scent of a lost person for example--what does one leave behind when walking thru the bush?
X-ray machines are pretty damn good too-showing different colors for different things even different types of organics!!!
the plane/gps thingy is a nice fantasy..i mean come ON--you really think you can choose where your flight path is and which altitude? ummm? lets see...5000mts,,allow for wind..drop.? yeah
right
-lol--you might as well put a transmitter on your package---and i live on an island that prides itself on its " border security"--yes it can be circumvented..but its ALWAYS a mixture of
skill+luck IMHO
X-ray machines are pretty damn good too-showing different colors for different things even different types of organics!!!
the plane/gps thingy is a nice fantasy..i mean come ON--you really think you can choose where your flight path is and which altitude? ummm? lets see...5000mts,,allow for wind..drop.? yeah
right
-lol--you might as well put a transmitter on your package---and i live on an island that prides itself on its " border security"--yes it can be circumvented..but its ALWAYS a mixture of skill+luck IMHO
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2009, 08:52:13 PM »
you could just stick it up your ass then don some tightie whities and pole vault over the fence better yet pay a mexican to do it! 
german what your talking about is nothing new that's an old trick pay some of the beggars to spray down winsheilds with a bottle laden with coke old news man.
german what your talking about is nothing new that's an old trick pay some of the beggars to spray down winsheilds with a bottle laden with coke old news man.
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2010, 04:47:19 AM »
dogs are amazing what they can smell--i mean WTF does a dog smell when its "following' the scent of a lost person for example--what does one leave behind when walking thru the bush?
The dogs smell your asshole in ppm. No shit! Why do you think when some one catches out on work detail from the bing they give them some dirty underwear or the sheets that the escapee was sleeping on. At one time I was close to the dog handlers in the penitentiary. Never helped but i watched and learned. To me that was to much like snitching and violated the code of conduct that I follow.
Guess you fellas don't live close to the border. Crossing the border is easy, I have done it many times, with herbs pharms and even my buddies maid.lol 4 outta 10 times i've seen Mexicans swimming across the river right under the fucking bridge. Laredo Reynosa Del Rio they are all the same. No one cares. Crossing the check point 20 miles from the border is another story. They do care but cannot search your person with out finding probable cause in your vehicle. Thats easy to beat if your a rider and can look them hoes in the eye con huevos.
How much diznope could you dissolve in a bottle or two of your favorite tequila and a bottle or two of your favorite vanilla extract??? Yes they come in fifths too, not like the little ampules mom had.
Jon's right too you could kester it as well. I had a buddy that used to walk over with a tube of KY and come back over with six bottles of testosterone. How many balloons of tar could you swallow. I know how many I can.... D
That Nubane from Ole Mexico is saying something too!
I had to clean this up..... I didnt kester the nubane. I am just saying! LOL
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2010, 04:25:42 AM »
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The dogs smell your asshole in ppmLMFAO yeah maybe.......
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2010, 02:18:36 AM »
Coolers....little coleman play-mate
drop in boiling water (55 gal. drum) pull apart, separate liner, cut liner to desired dimensions as your "package," put liner back in, seal that fucker up, fill with ice and soda.
drive across the border. Cheap way!
LV (low voltage) powered micro balloons filled w/helium low reflective material. GPS/homing device. pre-set destination fly below 200 ft. @ night....expensive. Test it out before you fly it!!!!!
Buy off border patrol agents....really expensive!!!!
drop in boiling water (55 gal. drum) pull apart, separate liner, cut liner to desired dimensions as your "package," put liner back in, seal that fucker up, fill with ice and soda.
drive across the border. Cheap way!
LV (low voltage) powered micro balloons filled w/helium low reflective material. GPS/homing device. pre-set destination fly below 200 ft. @ night....expensive. Test it out before you fly it!!!!!
Buy off border patrol agents....really expensive!!!!
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2010, 03:19:12 AM »
freebase product. Dissolve in special solvent. Wash the bottle in not drug lab. get away from it. Expect me to tell you anything.
Never! Enemy of chemistry!
Never! Enemy of chemistry!
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2010, 02:48:34 PM »
http://www.theledger.com/article/20100331/NEWS/3315049
Some meth was put into a liquid form and stored in Corona beer bottles for transport, Judd said. Ironically, it was taxed at the U.S. border and given a U.S. Customs stamp of approval, despite crystallized formations and corroded bottle caps.
Plain sight. Just be sure and pay the duty....
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2010, 06:47:44 PM »
yeah cocaine base in the spare gas can works too.
but i still like the pole vault and sprint technique.
it's more sportsman like you know more noble.
i'd love to judge that competition!
points on the pole vault technique and then the sprint when the border gaurds come running, two competitions.
that reminds me of an old story, my friend and his girlfriend went for a sack they came back with a story of how they got pulled over and his better half had to stuff it up the pieche, i was smoking it and i tells him man i knew something was fishy about this deal.
of course her daddy was president of a banditos chapter i would'nt want to piss her off too much.
but i still like the pole vault and sprint technique.
it's more sportsman like you know more noble.
i'd love to judge that competition!
points on the pole vault technique and then the sprint when the border gaurds come running, two competitions.
that reminds me of an old story, my friend and his girlfriend went for a sack they came back with a story of how they got pulled over and his better half had to stuff it up the pieche, i was smoking it and i tells him man i knew something was fishy about this deal.
of course her daddy was president of a banditos chapter i would'nt want to piss her off too much.
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2010, 09:31:01 AM »
Well it looks like we're all waaaay behind the 8 ball when it comes to transporting "controlled" things.........
Where are all the submarine plans eh?
Where are all the submarine plans eh?
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2010, 02:12:10 PM »
Why not a remote operated drone?
There exist plenty of remote controllable small aircraft, why not simply gut one of those kind that can be controlled via mobile phone, or computer and webcam feed for its control circuits and modify to take a transmitter and power source fit for an engine that is much more powerful?
Hell, if I remember the ingredient in the first stealth paints was graphite based, why not fly such a drone very low altitude, and with a layer of fine graphite epoxied on.
Copy the design of something like the B 52, all sharp angles to minimise the already small radar signature of a tiny drone? all run from a laptop in the middle of nowhere, anyone asks your playing video games
There exist plenty of remote controllable small aircraft, why not simply gut one of those kind that can be controlled via mobile phone, or computer and webcam feed for its control circuits and modify to take a transmitter and power source fit for an engine that is much more powerful?
Hell, if I remember the ingredient in the first stealth paints was graphite based, why not fly such a drone very low altitude, and with a layer of fine graphite epoxied on.
Copy the design of something like the B 52, all sharp angles to minimise the already small radar signature of a tiny drone? all run from a laptop in the middle of nowhere, anyone asks your playing video games
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2010, 06:24:44 PM »
ultralights have a small radar signature too because they are so flimsy i flew a couple of ultralights and boy are they fun if you're a risk taker it's a blast.
very dangerous you can easily crash and die in these planes but my motto has been to let 'em hang you know and take chances.
very dangerous you can easily crash and die in these planes but my motto has been to let 'em hang you know and take chances.
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2010, 06:59:54 PM »
Thats the point of the drone.
If it explodes, your arse isn't in the driving seat and you don't get scattered as a finely ground meaty fog from several hundred feet up.
If it explodes, your arse isn't in the driving seat and you don't get scattered as a finely ground meaty fog from several hundred feet up.
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2010, 05:36:46 AM »
Very nice idea Bogmonstermon!!! a "drone"... these days these remotely controlled aircraft are amazing and to set one up as you suggest matey is brilliant!!! Because one COULD fly the thing from an EXTREMELY REMOTE location AND also be some distance from the vehicle almost ALL the time (unless someone else recovers it)
I assume someone 'else' prepares the craft for 'take off' and from that point the 'controller' takes over... realistically I imagine a trip of say 50km shouldn't be to hard--using aerial photos and maps to 'prepare your course', find a suitable remote location,as, far as possible from "known" or any "possibly monitored" border crossings, and start your journey as close as possible to the border,, and finish it as far into the 'receiving country' as practical, the further in the better, due to the easier "re-entry into the mainstream traffic flow" with the recently acquired/recovered "package"--
You DO NOT want to get stopped driving back from the country with your 'package' only to be stopped by a bored country copper on a 'fishin expedition', who stopped you BECAUSE,, you look like a stranger from the city, and therefore "fair game" to be given the 'once over'..which may entail a car search, in which you want to be very confident about how well you stashed the package
--maybe keeping it in flying form might be a good "cover"...however, I dont think one wants to be thinking much bigger than a 1.5mts wingspan
and relative payload...you really dont want to be pulled over by the aforementioned, "bored country copper", carting around a 2.5mt wingspan, four engine powered Hercules,, faaark he's just gonna wanna take a look!!! But if its just some little thing that looks like its has no "other uses" other than flying around a paddock for 'fun'...you could still easily have payloads of a kilo or so,,no probs,, and doubt the military, or any body else for that matter, are either able, or inclined to want to track these low slow flying objects--if you are flying using a real time visual guidance, its is going to be reasonably easy to stay under 50mts, and as long as you dont crash into any mountains, or other birds you dont see, etc and assuming the craft is capable of 30kmh, and has a range of twice that,,this actually sounds like a VERY DOABLE if you lived in texas, or another southern border state--and could be fun, as well as having interesting financial spin offs, if one chose to do it for those reasons..obviously I'm not, coz i dont live in the states,,
hmmmm nice idea tho,, a very practically possible utilisation of modern Information and Communication Technology that bill gates himself would be proud of ( from a "purely" innovative and entrepreneurial reasons..of course..as do "we" here also)
I assume someone 'else' prepares the craft for 'take off' and from that point the 'controller' takes over... realistically I imagine a trip of say 50km shouldn't be to hard--using aerial photos and maps to 'prepare your course', find a suitable remote location,as, far as possible from "known" or any "possibly monitored" border crossings, and start your journey as close as possible to the border,, and finish it as far into the 'receiving country' as practical, the further in the better, due to the easier "re-entry into the mainstream traffic flow" with the recently acquired/recovered "package"--
You DO NOT want to get stopped driving back from the country with your 'package' only to be stopped by a bored country copper on a 'fishin expedition', who stopped you BECAUSE,, you look like a stranger from the city, and therefore "fair game" to be given the 'once over'..which may entail a car search, in which you want to be very confident about how well you stashed the package
--maybe keeping it in flying form might be a good "cover"...however, I dont think one wants to be thinking much bigger than a 1.5mts wingspanand relative payload...you really dont want to be pulled over by the aforementioned, "bored country copper", carting around a 2.5mt wingspan, four engine powered Hercules,, faaark he's just gonna wanna take a look!!! But if its just some little thing that looks like its has no "other uses" other than flying around a paddock for 'fun'...you could still easily have payloads of a kilo or so,,no probs,, and doubt the military, or any body else for that matter, are either able, or inclined to want to track these low slow flying objects--if you are flying using a real time visual guidance, its is going to be reasonably easy to stay under 50mts, and as long as you dont crash into any mountains, or other birds you dont see, etc and assuming the craft is capable of 30kmh, and has a range of twice that,,this actually sounds like a VERY DOABLE if you lived in texas, or another southern border state--and could be fun, as well as having interesting financial spin offs, if one chose to do it for those reasons..obviously I'm not, coz i dont live in the states,,
hmmmm nice idea tho,, a very practically possible utilisation of modern Information and Communication Technology that bill gates himself would be proud of ( from a "purely" innovative and entrepreneurial reasons..of course..as do "we" here also
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2010, 07:07:56 PM »
Very nice idea Bogmonstermon!!! a "drone"... these days these remotely controlled aircraft are amazing and to set one up as you suggest matey is brilliant!!! Because one COULD fly the thing from an EXTREMELY REMOTE location AND also be some distance from the vehicle almost ALL the time (unless someone else recovers it)
I assume someone 'else' prepares the craft for 'take off' and from that point the 'controller' takes over... realistically I imagine a trip of say 50km shouldn't be to hard--using aerial photos and maps to 'prepare your course', find a suitable remote location,as, far as possible from "known" or any "possibly monitored" border crossings, and start your journey as close as possible to the border,, and finish it as far into the 'receiving country' as practical, the further in the better, due to the easier "re-entry into the mainstream traffic flow" with the recently acquired/recovered "package"--
You DO NOT want to get stopped driving back from the country with your 'package' only to be stopped by a bored country copper on a 'fishin expedition', who stopped you BECAUSE,, you look like a stranger from the city, and therefore "fair game" to be given the 'once over'..which may entail a car search, in which you want to be very confident about how well you stashed the package
and relative payload...you really dont want to be pulled over by the aforementioned, "bored country copper", carting around a 2.5mt wingspan, four engine powered Hercules,, faaark he's just gonna wanna take a look!!! But if its just some little thing that looks like its has no "other uses" other than flying around a paddock for 'fun'...you could still easily have payloads of a kilo or so,,no probs,, and doubt the military, or any body else for that matter, are either able, or inclined to want to track these low slow flying objects--if you are flying using a real time visual guidance, its is going to be reasonably easy to stay under 50mts, and as long as you dont crash into any mountains, or other birds you dont see, etc and assuming the craft is capable of 30kmh, and has a range of twice that,,this actually sounds like a VERY DOABLE if you lived in texas, or another southern border state--and could be fun, as well as having interesting financial spin offs, if one chose to do it for those reasons..obviously I'm not, coz i dont live in the states,,
hmmmm nice idea tho,, a very practically possible utilisation of modern Information and Communication Technology that bill gates himself would be proud of ( from a "purely" innovative and entrepreneurial reasons..of course..as do "we" here also
Promise ya the INS has already thought of that one. Its easy to get across border the real check point is thrity miles inland.
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2010, 12:02:05 AM »
Why not a remote operated drone?
that was an old quincy episode.. no shit. d00d was using a remote controlled plane to drop off bricks over the line. dont remember if it was heroin or weed, but fuck.. it was like 17 years ago watching quincy reruns as a kid.
i think its viable. i know it works on a larger scale... ill tell you a story that has lived past the statute of limitations.
close buddy has some friends in central america. he also has a buddy that has a horse farm and several old dc-9's that are used to transport horses around the race circuit...
so things get coordinated so that when a horse is being moved, maybe someone in a shrimp boat is off shore... and the plane happens to fly over the same area at night. the plane never changes speed or course, but does alter its altitude for a bit... coming in lower and then moving up a quick rate of speed. if something were to fall out during the altitude change, it would pretty much fall str8 down... and if there were some glow sticks that fell with whatever fell out, it would land in roughly the same area and float with them...
now, radar signatures chage when bay doors are open, but if the plane is low enough it really hard to tell unless there is a radar source on the surface of the water. maybe the manuvers upset some people, but if the craft were intercepted and escorted to a runway, there would bee nothing to find. just a horse and some hay...
i think you can fill in the blanks and decide what the shrimpers caught in their net... or what they could catch if they were do inclined. and whos to say that drugs are the only thing they transport like that. parachutes are cheap.
i know this routine worked from 1976 (prior to my birth) and well into the mid 90s. if some people were still alive, they would still bee doing it. sometimes living on the beach has a separate set of rewards besides the view...
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2010, 02:31:15 AM »
Damn boogie the game is to be sold not to be told!! Had a few friends in Brownsville and they woulds pick up the llaves. You know the ones with the scorpion. They would make a clavo by while catching shrimp they would ice the shrimp down and they where packing the llaves in with it. After a while there is a huge block of ice and shrimp and it is all good to go to Houston. Up the Mississippi what ever.
Had a few friends in Brownsville and they woulds pick up the llaves. You know the ones with the scorpion. They would make a clavo by while catching shrimp they would ice the shrimp down and they where packing the llaves in with it. After a while there is a huge block of ice and shrimp and it is all good to go to Houston. Up the Mississippi what ever. hypnos
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2010, 09:17:06 AM »
yeah ok so maybe i'm a bit late with the idea-- but if as you say and the real dudes are 30k's in, then with google maps you can have look around etc,
its just that the "remote control" available today is amazing coz as swampman said he could run it via his ph and webcam,, (which wasnt around 17 yrs ago, no offence )--hence you can be miles away with a shit load of 'plausible deniability' between you and the 'device'..plane helicopter,rocket!
Anyway its a "nice thought" with "potential" me thinx,, its all about the planning.....
its just that the "remote control" available today is amazing coz as swampman said he could run it via his ph and webcam,, (which wasnt around 17 yrs ago, no offence )--hence you can be miles away with a shit load of 'plausible deniability' between you and the 'device'..plane helicopter,rocket!
Anyway its a "nice thought" with "potential" me thinx,, its all about the planning.....
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2010, 12:27:51 PM »
lots of room for mechanical and human error. Nothing beats getting out there and getting your hands dirty bar none.
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Re: Easy way to beat the border security
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2010, 05:15:22 PM »
And there is always the possibility of building an armored 'black box' with a GPS tracker, and if your going to go overkill, maybe even a weak radioactive source for point localization with a gieger counter.
Few inches of teflon and some titanium sheet and polystyrene foam, a hundred foot drop isn't going to bother it much.
I have seen some model rockets too that use a small explosive black powder charge to disperse a small parachute upon the end of the rocket charge, something like that would be very simple to rig up, to activate a parachute when the package is delivered.
Few inches of teflon and some titanium sheet and polystyrene foam, a hundred foot drop isn't going to bother it much.
I have seen some model rockets too that use a small explosive black powder charge to disperse a small parachute upon the end of the rocket charge, something like that would be very simple to rig up, to activate a parachute when the package is delivered.