Author Topic: Marsofold/Ekstaza Mescaline extraction TEK  (Read 322 times)

time2poop

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Re: Marsofold/Ekstaza Mescaline extraction TEK
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2009, 01:09:21 PM »
i think you guys might find this post most informative
http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescaline-cacti-succulents/28428-crystal-clear-mescaline-hcl-easy-pie.html
i think you have to have an account to see the pics though

the cactus he isolated the sedatives from were trichocereus macrogonus, but for those of us who used to make teas back in the day can account first-hand that pachanoi, peruvianus, bridgesii all have sedative alkaloid(s) in them as well.  you can find lists of alkaloid content of these cacti, but not much info is available out there on the activity of all the alkaloids, nor whether the lists are 100% accurate or not.  so it is a bit of a gray area unfortunately until more research is done on the trichocereus cacti
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Re: Marsofold/Ekstaza Mescaline extraction TEK
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2009, 01:09:35 AM »
i think you guys might find this post most informative
http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescaline-cacti-succulents/28428-crystal-clear-mescaline-hcl-easy-pie.html
i think you have to have an account to see the pics though

the cactus he isolated the sedatives from were trichocereus macrogonus, but for those of us who used to make teas back in the day can account first-hand that pachanoi, peruvianus, bridgesii all have sedative alkaloid(s) in them as well.  you can find lists of alkaloid content of these cacti, but not much info is available out there on the activity of all the alkaloids, nor whether the lists are 100% accurate or not.  so it is a bit of a gray area unfortunately until more research is done on the trichocereus cacti

Thanks.  That is some really useful info.  I think there is value in a holistic approach to extraction.  I know I would rather have as close to the same psychedelic profile of the original contained in the extraction as possible, so I'll be looking to capture these sedative alkaloids.  But my reading of the material on that link is that the only way to get those sedative alkaloids is to precipitate crystals out of xylene, then filter.  The alternative presented, of adding water to the mix of xylene and precipitate to dissolve the crystals in water, would seem to select only the mescaline salts, the sedatives being insoluble in water right?  Likewise the additional purification of recrystallizing in water/alcohol mix would have the same effect of isolating the mescaline and dropping the sedatives, correct?

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Re: Marsofold/Ekstaza Mescaline extraction TEK
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2009, 08:39:06 PM »
Recrystallizing the mescaline with MEK/water ala the MEK boil is very easy and produces mescaline hcl so pure it can actually be smoked.

Gassing mescaline is not the easiest thing in the world but it can be done. Takes some time. Titrating is very effective and probably easier.

Also there is no need to acidify the cactus. Just dry it, grind it up, base it (KOH will give less emulsions) very well. Then take the freebase up in xylene and titrate. Use as little water as possible in the basing stage. In fact, the easiest method is just grind the cactus, dump it in xylene and add a bunch of base...give it plenty of time (like a day) with occasional stirring. Seperate, titrate, evaporate and MEK boil. Most excellent product.

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Re: Marsofold/Ekstaza Mescaline extraction TEK
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2010, 04:24:22 AM »
This is the first tek that I came across when I first became aware of the trichocerous mescaline bearing cacti and it has never failed me.
The end result has been of good enough quality that it is good to dose as is but a simple acetone cleaning and re-dissolving and evaporating in water to get a much nicer end result.
This has been w/ simple titration although I may try gassing w/ HCl next time.
The work I have seen via the MEK method have been the creme de la creme so to speak though.
The finest, whitest Mescaline one could hope to see outside of a professional lab.

Voodoochild;
have you bioassayed mescaline via smoking? I have heard that it is theoretically possible but haven't been able to find any reliable reports on such.
Avoiding the 3hr wait for liftoff would be great.


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Re: Marsofold/Ekstaza Mescaline extraction TEK
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2010, 08:26:58 PM »
Hi guys

Anyone know if d-limonene can be gassed in this way just like xylene/toluene? I mean has anyone actually done it?

thanks
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