Looking for a way to make great chili, like this?
You must acquire the knowledge, the
chemicals and the equipment.
New methods continually surface, ideal is a
method that uses commonly found products
A beginning
- the test
Additional
sites to visit
Buying
Ephedrine
Cleaning
Ephedrine solvent extraction
Cleaning
Ephedrine Acid Base extraction
Increasing
your yield
It takes effort, patience, persistence, and
some money to acquire materials, to be successful.
Here is a method to
assess what you already have, and what you need.
0=yes 1=no
1)___ Have
you had any formal chemistry training?
2)___ Is there someone who will show
you the procedure hands on?
3)___ Do you now have access to red phosphorus or
iodine?
4)___ Do you have any equipment, flasks, funnel, filters
etc?
5)___ Do you have a few hundred dollars to buy chems &
equip?
6)___ Do you have a partner to help in acquisition ?
Total
_________________Add up your score.
This number indicates the months, it may take to acquire all the stuff.
As you may notice a chemistry background, or someone who has this knowledge
is very important. I suggest you team up with someone.
The place to begin
acquire needed supplies and skills
a) learn where to buy and how to purify
ephedrine.( this phase )
b) learn where to buy the iodine and red phosphorus
c) gather up the glassware or make caveman equipment from common items
d)
learn the reaction, and meth purification procedure
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What do I want in return, I do demand a couple of things:
1) Attempt to
make only the very best and cleanest product possible.
2) Observe the items
marked *** required safety**
These few safety requirements, have saved my
ass repeatedly
They protect you and your neighbors from explosions, fires,
and toxins, and arrest
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Sudafed-Pseudo ephedrine-Ephedrine -All
are similar when using this method
Some have more or less amounts of
ephedrine mg/tablet and different fillers
They are found everywhere
Each
has a different type of filler and ingredients
Avoid those with Acetaminophen
and Guaifenesin
Some kinds of E are not found OTC, but are behind the
counter, you have to ask for it. It comes in thin white tablets 60mg or more,
100 tabs or more to a bottle. At pharmacies, Indian smoke shops, HEAD SHOPS,
convenience stores, super markets. vitamin stores. Walk into a head shop and ask
for "ephedrine", they will take care of the rest. When asked, what kind? Simply
reply "What is the most popular brand?" Get the brand that is currently sold
most often.
Be prepared to spend about $2-$4 / gram - Meth sells for $60
/gram
One Cook I know loads up a pile of people in his van, drives them
around to pick up pills, iodine, and RP. All in one day. There are restrictions
on amount of E you may purchase a day, I don't know the exact amount,
but 4
bottles of 100 - 60 mg/tablet is about all you will be sold at a
shift/store/day.
That is (4 x 100 x 60) 24,000 mg or 24 grams = $75
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This is more
time consuming then all the other procedures combined. It is the main molecule
you will be working with so it must be painstakingly extracted and
cleaned
What you need
.. *1) common funnels - buy a set of various sizes
plastic is usually OK
.. *2) cotton balls - a bunch of them - one or two are
put in the neck of the funnel
.. *3) coffee filters - 4 are stacked together
in the funnel
.. *4) Denatured alcohol - hardware gallon
.. *4) Methanol
- gas line drying agent Heet(yellow bottle),Dry Gas (blue), brake drying agent
for diesels.
.. *5) Acetone - Hardware or beauty supply gallon
.. *6)
Distilled water several gallons
.. . 7) Visionware cook ware by Corning found
a whole set for $19 wal-mart sale
.. *8) Several Carafes or flasks -glass
bottles
.. *9) heat source - like a hot plate or warming tray
.. 10) Small
fan- Clip-on anywhere type or whatever you have
(*) are items that are a must
Evaporating is safest with Corning Visionware, Visionware will not break
when heated or chilled. Corning also makes Pyrex . not all pyrex is heat
resistant . If you are not using Visionware you have a 90% chance that a bowl
will shatter under the heat(very dangerous)
To evaporate volatile rapidly use
a fan to blow air around flammable fuels to disperse the fumes and prevent
fire.
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Here is the Safety requirement
***Keep a wet towel handy, to
toss over and smother any flames
Briefly how it goes,
(more details are next)
____if using red coated
pills, begin by soaking in acetone to see if the color coating comes off. If not
then place the pills in a colander with a little crushed ice, swirl to remove
red.
1. powder the pills, use a blender keep them dry do not use
water.
2. Acetone
____ soak the powder in warm Acetone for 10
minutes,
____ filter (save solids)
____ discard the liquid solution
3.
Methanol or Denatured Alcohol
____soak the powder from the acetone in
methanol or denatured for at least 40 minutes
____filter, save the
filtrate(liquid),
___ evaporate the filtrate until completely dry
4.
Distilled water,
____dissolve the methanol or denatured evaporate in
water
____heat the water up so all the stuff dissolves
____filter cold(
put distilled water ice cubes in the filter),
____evaporate the liquid
filtrate until completely dry.
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Explanation
The ephedrine is washed and filtered with acetone to
remove red dye, some waxes, and microcrystaline cellulose, ephedrine is
insoluble in acetone so save the solids, discard the filtered acetone.
Micro crystaline cellulose is removed by one of these two methods, each
method uses filtration but with opposite effect, and application, so read
carefully and be sure you understand the distinction between the two methods, if
not done as directed it will not work.
Method 1 - With the acetone you must
warm it up , for only a few minutes (10 minutes) swirl the powders and pour
quickly into the filters, it is the merchanical action of the acetone that
flushes the MCC through the pores in the filter because MCC is not very soluble,
but it is small, and will be washed through the filter.
In the acetone wash
fluid you may see little fibers in the wash, as the acertone absorbs water from
the air the MCC sucks up the water soon grows , they look spider like,
eventually becoming a slime(MCC)
MCC will expand with water and some
alcohols and will tend to plug your filter.
or
Methos 2 - Allow your
powdered pills to disolve in methanol or denatured alcohol, for many hours
letting the solids settle to the bottom, the solution should look fairly clear
after 12 or more hours, if not clear some suspeded waxes may ber present and
this method may not be able to remove the MCC but, very carefully with minimal
disturbance to sediments, siphon or pour off the clear upper fluid levels The
MCC being insoluble but swollen wil stay with the sediment or catch in the
filter
Returning to the procedure and repeating myself
the "dry"
solids from acetone are soaked in Methanol or denatured alcohol, Filter, discard
the stuff in the filter. Ephedrine is soluble in methanol, so evaporate the
methanol/ephedrine solution(save this). be sure to evaporate until "dry".
****Caution when evaporating volatile liquids, use the fan to blow vapors
away from heat source
Dissolved in distilled water, the "dry" remains
from the evaporated Methanol or denatured. To aid the dissolution you may wish
to heat up the water first. The best is to let the water come to room temp
normally. By letting the stuff cool slowly, often the waxes will rise and form a
hard wax layer, that you can remove by hand. Then place in freezer before cold
filtering.. chill the water/ephedrine solution, then cold filter with ice
cubes(distilled) in the filter, Discard the waxy solids in the
filter.
Evaporate the water using a hair dryer and heating on stove, avoid to
much stove heat that will burn the E.
What is left after evaporating the
water is almost pure crystal E.
Be very careful when getting to the end of
the water drying cycle, you do not want the ephedrine to over heat at all and
burn or brown.
The reason each step must be "completely dried" before
proceeding, Un-evaporated solvent, will ruin the selectivity of the next
solvent.
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Take your time let things cool slowly and settle first.
Coffee filters are really for shit, they work only sorta kinda. So always allow
lots of time for mixtures settle, and separate. then decant(pour off) only the
supernatant(top liquid) into the filter, leaving the solids in the container,
otherwise you will plug up the filter, but worse than that the fillers and crap
in the sediments have a better chance of coming through the coffee filters and
clouding a filtered solution. If a solution is cloudy after filtering, it must
be suspected of being dirty But you say "My filtering is always clear with
coffee filters" Shine a bright light through the filtered solution first, then
you will see, Re-filter a obviously cloudy solution. Colors in a solution are OK
and often will not filter out After heating the water mixture to dissolve all
the solids, cover it and let it cool slowly to room temperature, this gives some
waxes time to rise to the surface and melt together, after an hour you may see a
flat ring of hard yellow wax that you can lift out by hand from the water. Then
chill the water in the freezer and filter cold,
When evaporating notice all
the slick vapors coming off, maybe even a little bit of smoke. Lots of that
vapor is ephedrine or meth, Say goodbye, to it, as it boils away to thin air.
For a better return supplement the stove with a hair dryer especially when
evaporating water. Use the stove's heat but don't let it go at a full boil. keep
the hair dryer blowing on the surface this will save you a bunch. The hair dryer
actually cools the solution and promotes evaporation. As soon as the dryer goes
on notice that the boiling ceases, turn off the dryer and boiling begins again.
When you get near the end of the water, turn off the stove, turn it on for only
a few seconds or a minute ,at a time, if you brown or burn the E the yield in
meth at the end won't be shit
If unsure if you have fully extracted the
ephedrine is? do a taste test, bitterness probably is ephedrine, not bitter is
not ephedrine. take some of the sediment, let it dry and taste a small bit, if
it is still bitter it still has ephedrine in it.
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There that was fairly easy, but lengthy and the time consuming.
The
following is simple and fun
Calculate the percentage you recovered. if you
had 4 bottles of 100 tablets , 60mg
4 x 100 x 60 =24000mg or 24 grams
if
you recovered 20 grams of Ephedrine
then 20 / 24 x 100% = 83%
70% is
not very good
90% is super
110% and you may have collected a bunch of
trash along with the Ephedrine or have gotton lucky with extrapotent pills it
does happen. The bottom of a barrel or something. I always weigh the pills in
each bottle if the weight of one bottle is out of sync, examine it carefully to
determine if anything is wrong
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This is an
effective method, however there may be are simpler/easier ways to extract
ephedrine than the Acid Base method
Charcoal lighter fluid(naphtha) holds
Ephedrine well only when warm. Diethyl-Ether or toluene may be preferred
non-polar solvents
For this document please assume that sudo =
pseudo-ephedrine = ephedrine = sudafed = E.
Pseudoephedrine is less water
soluble than Ephedrine
Contents
Equipment
Reagents
Pills
1. Dissolve sudo
2.
Filter
3. 1st pull
__a. Extract with non polar pH 12-13
__b. Extract
with water pH 7-8
__c. Evaporate
4. 2nd pull
__a. Extract with non
polar pH 12-13
__b. Extract with water pH 7-8
__c. Evaporate
4.5
Emulsion
5. Yields
6. Caution Emergency Top of
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Equipment
No metal, only glass and plastic
2 feet clear aquarium air
tubing
1 coffee pot - glass
1 coffee pot heater or 1 hot plate
Separatory funnel or 1 empty liter clear plastic coke container - remove
the label plastic dish soap container top cap piece - the plunger pull up it
,opens push down it closes
1 6"- 8" glass bowl "Visionware" by Corning
is best, It must be able to be heated on a stove, There are many types of Pyrex
also by Corning, some pyrex can not withstand temperature extremes This must be
premium quality.
2 plastic funnels 6" or so
1 eye dropper or empty eye
wash bottle(label as acid)
2-3 1 liter Carafes or flasks
2 quart bowl
glass stirring rod (martini stirrer)
Coffee Filters
cotton balls
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Reagents
muriatic acid (HCl) swimming pool type
Red Devil Lye
or
Sodium Hydroxide
distilled water
Toluene
charcoal lighter fluid
400 30 mg tablets = 12 grams
1 bottle hydrogen peroxide
1 can
acetone (beauty supply nail wrap is cleanest)
1 can table salt
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Purchasing sudo
If your new at this, and don't have a preferred brand,
then look for simple flat white tablets, The 240 mg 24 hour tablets work as do
the 12 hour 12mg tablets. Get the sudo from a head shop, notice which brand is
almost gone, those are what you want. Or ask, "what brand do most people take
for a head cold" Read the label, avoid if they contain aspirin, acetaminophen,
guaifenesin. As you gain experience, hit other places besides the head shops,
for better prices.
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General Considerations
Be persistent and patient, take your time, your
reward will be a large amount of great looking white crystalline pleasure.
This is the first step to making the gold a screw up here, may haunt your
whole dream
Some people will take a full day, letting it filter and waiting
for fluids to layer. This guarantees a return.
Wash your equipment ,
rinse with distilled water. Always use distilled water only, no tap water .
Never put used reagents back in with the fresh stuff.
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1. Dissolve pills in d-H2O
Sudo is an amine, generally amines are
soluble in water Put dry pills in grinder, powderize. Add to flask, add d-water
soak for 30-360 minutes,
2. Filter This is a slow process
Vacuum Filtration works super, you need
the chem type of
Filter paper
Regular Filtration
Press a cotton
ball or two in tip of funnel, tightly. Add 3-4 coffee filters, put funnel on top
of wide necked flask. Let the pill solution settle and Decant (pour) off the
supernatant(upper solution) This prevents filter plug up It should be clear as
it drips out. If the rate of dripping is too slow it is set by how tightly the
cotton material is packed, set up another filter with a looser cotton pack.
Taste a drop, coming from the funnel if bitter you still have lots of E
coming out. Take your time, you want super clean sudo, with a great yield, When
finished lightly spray the inside of the filter with water tast for bitterness.
Save the filters and the old cotton balls, you can rinse them all out at a later
time and refilter if you want a few grams of ephedrine.
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3. 1st pull
__a. Extract at pH-12-13 with non polar solvent
Use a
clean funnel
Put your sudo/water solution in coke bottle(separatory funnel)
cap with dish soap pull/push top.
Add the fuel to the water Toluene,ether,
or naphtha( charcoal fluid) warm up the naphtha first, careful it is flammable
as hell when warm.
add several tablespoons of lye, or use a premixed
solution of lye water, carefull if added to a hot solution it may shoot back
into your face
Add table salt untill no more will dissolve, Water prefers
salt to meth so the water will drop the meth and attach to the salt, This gives
a better yield and may help dissolve that nasty emulsion
seal separatory
funnel with cap from soap container. shake, release pressure, shake, shake
release pressure
Hold the bottle upside down, The water is on the bottom,
the fuel on top, tap the bottle to help clear the bubbles lightly swirl to wash
down the sides. Wait, allow solutions to layer Carefully, drain a sample of the
water/sudo solution into a small beaker (twist the tip of the cap slightly while
opening and squeeze bottle a little) Dip the pH stick in sample, At pH 12-13 the
sudo is a free base in the fuel if pH is less than 12-13 add more lye, return
the the sample, to the separatory funnel and shake release pressure, shake, tap,
swirl, layer. Take another aliquot(sample) into a clean glass, retest pH
Continue when your absolutely sure the pH is 12-13
Note: the alkaline pH
must be above pH 12 it is not critical except above 12.
the acidic pH is
vital to be between pH 7-8 best is 7.4.
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Separate layers pH12-13
The ephedrine is now in the fuel (upper layer)
Let the solvents layer with the bottle top pointing down. Wait, go do something
for 10 minutes Tap the bottle to remove oil bubbles, swirl bottle lightly to
wash down walls Squeeze the plastic bottle lightly, With a twist, open the dish
soap stopper, drain the water layer into coffee pot, if air backs up into bottle
close it, wait for layering again,
Washing the Fuel
Add a portion of water (1/5 the volume of the fuel)
Shake shake shake, Tap, swirl, Layer, Separate water put water and any middle
emulsion layer into coffee pot Continue washing with 1/5 portions of water until
water wash comes out clear and clean,may take 3 or 4 washes. with a mirror
surface between layers
b. Extract pH 7-8 with polar solvent
At pH 12-13 sudo is a free base oil
and is in the fuel.
At pH 7-8 sudo is a water soluble salt . After you have
have cleaned the fuel and sudo in separatory bottle, Add about as much d-water
as fuel add a few drops of HCl about 4 drops/gram sudo shake, release pressure,
shake, shake, tap, swirl, layer take sample of water, check pH for 7-8 if OK
then separate place water and sudo in evaporation bowl.
do NOT mix
emulsion( middle layer) with this water do NOT get fuel in this water shoot the
emulsion into coffee pot
Uh oh Too much acid
If you add too much
acid - pH less than 6, do NOT try to adjust with lye, you will end up with a
major amount of salt instead, begin over, by adding lye to bring back up to pH
12-13 shake, tap, swirl, layer, test pH 12-13 the E goes into the top layer
again separate, put water in coffee pot Return to above procedure add water and
acid pH at 7-8
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__c. EVAPORATE
Visionware bowl only goes on stove or use a hair dryer
when dry scrape crystals from bowl, put in glass pipe or on tin foil and
vaporize look for residue, it will burn almost clean, If slightly dirty, or
oily, it's OK, wash with acetone.
Acetone Wash
powderize the pseudo
Put a little cold acetone on the
dirty sudo, swirl, pour off excess acetone being careful to keep the crystals in
bowl, this will remove some oils and excess acid. Acetone really cleans it up
nice. vaporize look for residue, rinse with acetone again if needed.
Always
keep the acetone sealed or it will absorb water, once the acetone contains water
it will begin dissolving your ephedrine and meth and you loose product
Acetone is the most dangerous of these chemicals because it is a fire
hazard. The acetone vapore will crawl out of a container and flow invisibly
along a counter top untill it hits fire then Poof a hot rapid fire begins.
Alternately put crystals in funnel with cotton and a filter, squirt
acetone on crystals to wash.
Subsequent Extractions
Continue adding equal volumes of water to the
fuel tap, swirl,layer,test pH 7-8 add drop or two of acid if needed separate,
evaporate water,
Continue with water until no sudo is obtained on
evaporation
always shoot middle emulsion (if any) into coffee pot always
save pH 7-8 water in bowl for evaporation always save pH 12-13 water in coffee
pot When no more sudo comes out of fuel, add fuel to coffee pot
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4. 2nd pull The Coffee Pot
The coffee pot and contents is allowed to
warm slowly on a hot plate or coffee warmer Carefully add a bunch of fresh fuel
to coffee pot, The emulsion should be shrinking, add a capful of peroxide, stir
like crazy, If emulsion is thick add Salt,Toluene, ether, or a little acetone
carefully, it will effervesce, stir stir stir,stir heat heat. The emulsion is a
sudo/pill wax combination
Siphoning safely
Hold neck of coke bottle in left hand, run aquarium
tubing between index and middle fingers of left hand, and into bottle several
inches. Place other end of tube in the fuel of coffee pot, with right hand. Hold
coke bottle at a level lower than the coffee pot(for siphoning) one hard suck
between finger and thumb of left hand to start siphon. Drain only the fuel into
bottle, no emulsion should go in.
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__a. Wash with water
Add 1/5 volume of d-water to the fuel siphoned
from coffee pot shake shake, tap, swirl, layer separate, add water to coffee pot
Repeat washing until water comes out clear
__b. extract with water
Add equal volume of water to fuel in bottle
adjust to pH 7-8 with acid shake, tap, swirl, layer, test pH separate water into
drying bowl shoot emulsion back to coffee pot
__c. Evaporate
evaporate water in drying bowl wash crystals with acetone
Repeat b & c until no more sudo is washed out
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4.5 Emulsions
The ideal interface between the two layers is almost
undetectable, when viewed from the proper angle it should look like a mirror.
Rarely seen when cleaning pills, more common when separating meth The middle
layer is an emulsion of oil and water plus lots of sudo and wax. A thick
emulsion, that won't separate, may mean un-acceptable loss of of product, here
are some fixes.
a) Place emulsion in coffee pot on a hot plate,
b) Add
toluene, works well
c) Add more lye, not a good idea, above pH 13.
d)
Add acetone ,very carefully, it will effervesce violently.
e) Add ether,
works great, but who has ether?
f) Add lots of salt(table) works good
g)
Stir, stir , Wait it out, hours ?
One one or a combination of these, will
help take down the emulsion.
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__5. YIELD
Weigh your sudo and calculate return final weight / initial
weight as listed on pill bottle x 100%= % return
example if you use 10 -
240mg tablets you would potentially have 2.4 grms
100 - 60 mg tablets = 6
grams
You should get a 75%-90% return on the sudo. I guess it is possible to
get 90% but not probable. with each operation you loose 5%,
filtering
retains 5% fuel retains 5% coffee pot water 5%-10% 15%-20% loss, there is no
easy, practical way around it. it is proven with mathematics and concentrations
Those who claim better, are taking wet weighings and making salt.
If you
get less than 70% return taste the filter solids for bitterness. If not bitter,
the sudo is in coffee pot add toluene instead of lighter fluid to coffee pot to
break down emulsion. treat same way as before
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6. CAUTION
Be patient; always wear rubber gloves when touching iodine,
lye, etc..;
ALWAYS Keep a wet towel within reach in case of fire. this will
smother the flames.
The only time, flames or electric burners are ever
used is to evaporate water from Visionware on stove. Other bowls use a hair
dryer
A fan may be placed so that it blows over the bowl of volatile liquid,
that you are evaporating, this disperses the vapors so volatile liquids may be
boiled
The coffee pot is on a hot plate only,
The fuel and acetone are
dangerously flammable.
keep a fire extinguisher handy,
wear safety
glasses, the hot lye will erupt when adding to it.
keep a water source for
eyes and hands nearby in case the acid or lye gets on you.
In case of fire
or accident, do NOT panic, stay with it, and control it, Do not run from
trouble, try to deal with it first. You will be OK.
The wet towel has saved my ass numerous times - have it ready always - use
it.
If you panic and flee, it will get out of control, once it reaches your
cans of solvents it will blow, you may injure those who are unaware of the
danger, and you will soon be arrested.
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