Master_Alchemist (Stranger) 01-31-04 13:37 No 485681				Mda/Mdma Related
						I have just completed a trial run (first time ;) which involved making 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenylacetone, converting it into MDA and then finally to MDMA. A very simple, clean, enjoyable process but all the same twas only an experiment. Am now Planning to bypass MDA intermediate and convert MDPA->MDMA in a single process. I know that by substituting N-MethylFormamide for Formamide this goal seems achievable, but i want to know if there is any advantage with using Di-methylFormamide instead. I can aquire lots of it quite cheaply so common sense would say to use it, if possible. I see no reason to suspect otherwise, but the objective of this experiment is to produce a high-quality product, so I will do whatever is necessary. Any related advice would be most helpful
		Rhodium (Chief Bee) 01-31-04 14:01 No 485688				N,N-Dimethyl-MDA
						i want to know if there is any advantage with using Di-methylFormamide instead. No, as the product would be inactive. It is called MDDM (http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal105.shtml) The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders
		Master_Alchemist (Stranger) 02-01-04 07:25 No 485795				Ignorance is Bliss
						Well I think I will erase that thought from my head, MDDM looks very ordinary indeed according to the shulgins. Btw, thanks Rhodium, you pointed out something I should of realised before I posted! Common sense would have been to grab a notebook and jot down some reaction chemistry equtions, however I was thinking and typing at the same time..deadly combination. It seems my local chem supplier is having a clearance sale and DimethylFormamide is on the list. Need I say any more! Btw, I must point out that your archives are by far the best in existance Feel free to delete this thread!