Xicori (Hive Bee) 06-23-04 15:04 No 514974				Uses of Vanilline
						High Bees! The topic about using vanilline as a precoursor was often discussed here at the hive, and many documents can be found at rhodium.ws. ...what is missing is a collection of routes from vanilline to several PEA and Amphetamine derivates. Swim used the FSE, and came up with the routes shown in the picture below: [image] It is possible (even very likely) that my searches didnt cover all the possibilities to psychoactive material. So please add other routes that may be considered! Another question is, if the DMS (for example for methylating the 5-OH-Vanilline to 3,4,5-TMBA) can be substituted for MethylTosylate? Would be way nicer to work with! ...Trimethylphosphate should work, but itīs also very toxic, and not as available as the Tosylate ester. References: [1] Post 297806 (uemura: "How to prepare hydroxyvanillin", Methods Discourse) [2] Post 297806 (uemura: "How to prepare hydroxyvanillin", Methods Discourse), https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/mmda.mescaline.html [3] https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/mmda.mescaline.html,https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/345-tmb.html [4] Pihkal #25: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal025.shtml [5] https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/methylenation.html [6] https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/methylenation.html [7] https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/mmda.mescaline.html [8] https://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/tma2.vanillin.html DMS methylations are standard, and procedures are given on many of the above links. Edit: references added Best wishes, xicori
		Rhodium (Chief Bee) 06-23-04 17:02 No 514982				What are your references?
						Please add links to the respective procedures so that your overview becomes more useful. The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders
		Captain_America (Hive Bee) 07-18-04 01:36 No 519976				good work
						Another question is, if the DMS (for example for methylating the 5-OH-Vanilline to 3,4,5-TMBA) can be substituted for MethylTosylate? Would be way nicer to work with! ...Trimethylphosphate should work, but itīs also very toxic, and not as available as the Tosylate ester. Yes, see: Post 458188 (Lego: "Some alkylations with alkyl tosylates, Pt. 1", Novel Discourse) Post 458190 (Lego: "Some alkylations with alkyl tosylates, Pt. 2", Novel Discourse) Post 458191 (Lego: "Some alkylations with alkyl tosylates, Pt. 3", Novel Discourse) But I think it is easier to make alkylhalides.