KidCurry
(Hive Bee)
04-06-04 15:03
No 499336
      Salting mescaline with dilute sulphuric acid?     

Purely theoretically, if one could not obtain concentrated sulphuric acid and would need to make a salt of mescaline, would it be possible to use cold battery acid (35-38% H2SO4) since mescaline sulfate has a low solubility in cold water (cool the acid before in freezer for a few minutes, and add it to a beaker on an icebath)?
 
 
 
 
    GC_MS
(Hive Addict)
04-06-04 16:30
No 499346
      yes     

It should work. I use 50:50 water/conc sulfuric acid (v/v) to crystallize mescaline freebase as the sulfate. Calculate how much solution you need though. Better not loose too much of the precious M wink.

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    unionpacific
(Hive Bee)
04-07-04 07:57
No 499473
      mescaline     

If battery acid is all you can get I would just make the citrate form out of a solution of citric acid, battery acid can be pretty dirty it could contain lead and shouldn't be consumed with a hallucinogen, a strong one at that. Or you could make a dilute solution of HCL to make mescaline hcl

either which way the salt should be washed and recrystallized to improve purity

Isolation is a must for the experimentation of a model subject.
 
 
 
 
    KidCurry
(Hive Bee)
04-07-04 10:12
No 499487
      I thought new battery acid was just dilute...     

I thought new battery acid was just dilute sulphuric acid without additives? I don't mean acid taken out from a battery, but the acid you buy to refill them.
And what's the solubility of M-HCl in water? I thought it was a lot mor soluble than the sulfate salt.

Recrystallisation/washing would of course be done.
 
 
 
 
    unionpacific
(Hive Bee)
04-07-04 13:48
No 499506
      refill acid     

Refill battery acid will probably work, it might or might not have a some additives depending where it came from, but it should be suitable for the task. What color is it? can you see any insolubles in the acid floating around?

Isolation is a must for the experimentation of a model subject.
 
 
 
 
    KidCurry
(Hive Bee)
04-07-04 14:38
No 499512
      I haven't actually got any yet.     

I haven't actually got any yet. This is purely theoretical thoughts. But if someday the synthesis of mescaline will become legal where I live, and I aquire some battery acid I will check for impurites and what the label says.

Thanks for the help everybody, really appreciate it! :)
 
 
 
 
    Smilaxium
(Stranger)
04-09-04 01:23
No 499802
      Add methanol ?     

I was just wondering if adding methanol to a 50/50 mixture of H2SO4 and H2O would reduce the amount of amphetamine that is dissolved...And even that would not be my first choice. Still you will loose too much precious crystals!

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