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Astrum
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Posted - Mar 21 2005 :  3:31:54 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Here are two hive threads on the subject:


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IOC
(Stranger)
12-07-01 04:28
No 245275
Akabori run Bookmark

crap, at best 15% using 100 g BnZ, 40g l-alanine.
Heat to 140 seems best, extracted into H2o and evaperate, then clean up.
would decarboxylation of a methylamino over the amino maybe improve results?
How about a base and high bp solvent with C5H5N??
as suggested in tfse.
could some one please explain the reaction mechanics for the reaction:
,on heating BzH and DL-alanine directly; PhCH2NH2, PhCH(OH)CHPhNH2 (2 dl-compds.), AcH, and CO2 are formed.
Is this a condensation (no H2o) or a decarboxylation?
what conditions would be pref?
any ed imput would be great, cheers




jim
(Hive Bee)
12-07-01 05:53
No 245287
Re: Akabori run Bookmark

Give references.

Personnally I don't know of this reaction, and am wondering why you would even attempt it? Get phenylalanine and decarboxylate instead...



Aurelius
(Hive Bee)
12-07-01 10:15
No 245346
Re: Akabori run Bookmark

complicated rxn mechanism for just words. you'd have to look up the actual article. (btw- your yeild will go up if you calculate according to the converted benzaldehyde, and recover the rest for a second go)



IOC
(Stranger)
12-08-01 01:33
No 245572
Re: Akabori run Bookmark

An otc way to PPA, what I,ve dug up so far

Synthesis of aminoalcohols by aldol condesation of aminoacids with aromatic aldehydes.
The alanine is reduced via -COOH => -CH2-OH

Reaction between aromatic aldehydes and a-amino acids. I. New facts on the Akabori reaction. Takagi, Eiichi. J. Pharm. Soc. Japan (1951), 71 648-51. Journal written in Unavailable.

Abstract
The Akabori reaction (I) (C.A. 41, 3774g) on BzH and dl-MeCH(NHMe)CO2H (II) with and without pyridine and removal of the unreacted BzH by steam distn. gave dl-ephedrine and dl-y-ephedrine. Similarly, direct heating of piperonal and II gave 2 dl-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-methylamino-1-propanols. A new reaction (III), differing from I, takes place on heating BzH and DL-alanine directly; PhCH2NH2, PhCH(OH)CHPhNH2 (2 dl-compds.), AcH, and CO2 are formed. It is considered that the I-type reaction occurs when the N of the amino acid is secondary and the III-type reaction when it is primary.

Fester5 sites that direct heating of 20g N-methyl-alanine
with 50g Bnz at 150deg untill fizzing stops, produces
12g of a mixture 3g ephedrine and 9g pseudoephedrine isomers.

Reactant BRN 471223 benzaldehyde
1720250 DL-alanine
Product BRN 3196917 (1RS,2RS)-2-amino-1-phenyl-propan-1-ol
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Reaction Details
Reaction Classification Preparation
Temperature 140 #65533;C
Other conditions Erwaermen des Reaktionsprodukts mit wss.-aethanol. HCl
Ref. 1 2262852; Journal; Takagi et al.; YKKZAJ; Yakugaku Zasshi; 73; 1953; 1086; Chem.Abstr.; 1954; 12021;

As promised, here are some more refs on the interesting condensation reaction between aromatic aldehydes and glycine/alanine:
BER 25: 3445 (1892) + 52 :1734 ('19)
ANN. 284: 36 + 307: 84
JCS 1943 ('26) + 2600 ('22)
JACS 76: 1322 ('54)
J.PHARM.SOC.JAP. 67: 218 ('47)
Most of the articles are pretty old to say the least but they contain some interesting stuff on the reaction we're interested in here. I'm especially interested in the J.Pharm.Soc.Jap article, which describes the preparation of a methylenedioxy-substituted phenylserine. But the practical way to go is definitely as mentioned in a certain patent, that is using a two-phase solvent system. This prevents the benzylidene phenylserine from crystallising and makes sure that the reaction mixture can be stirred at all times.
After decarboxylation, these phenylserine derivates turn into amino alcohols, the perfect substrates for aminoxazolines. By substituting the benzaldehyde, a lot of phenylserine and amino alcohol derivates can be made and thus a lotta aminoxazolines!

So with some 10x experiments with 20g alanine + 50g BnZ
a massive 15% return sux, any suggestions besides learn how to make nitroethane?




java
(Hive Bee)
12-04-02 08:24
No 386214
Re: akabori: Bookmark

Did I read this correctly then one can then make ephedrine using this method.......well have you tried it and what are the conditions since I can't find the article ,,,anyone?

Akabori
Also known as Akabori-Momotani
Synthesis of aminoalcohols by aldol condesation of aminoacids with aromatic aldehydes.

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Bibliography

Akabori S., Momotani K., J. Chem. Soc. Japan, 1943, 64, 608; C. A., 1947, 41, 3774
Dose K., Ber., 1957, 90, 1251.
Belikov V. M., Izv. AN SSSR. OHN, 1969, 2536.

This I was able to locate.



Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
12-04-02 08:53
No 386225
Akabori Bookmark

Yes, it's correect that you can make ephedrine very simply with the Akabori reaction between Benzaldehyde and N-methylalanine. Ordinary alanine would give phenylpropanolamine.

The only one of the above articles I could locate was J. Am. Chem. Soc. 76, 1322 (1954) (https://www.rhodium.ws/pdf/akabori.phcho.glycine.pdf).

I doubt that the original reference has been retrieved as it is written in Japanese, and "IOC" is not likely to answer you either, as he hasn't been logged in since June.





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dormouse
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04-22-00 02:13
No 108531
phenylpropanolamine from benzaldehyde and alanine -drone 342 Bookmark


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drone 342
Member posted 10-15-98 09:18 AM
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Reactant BRN 471223 benzaldehyde
1720250 DL-alanine
Product BRN 3196917 (1RS,2RS)-2-amino-1-phenyl-propan-1-ol
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Reaction Details

Reaction Classification Preparation
Temperature 140 #65533;C
Other conditions Erwaermen des Reaktionsprodukts mit wss.-aethanol. HCl
Ref. 1 2262852; Journal; Takagi et al.; YKKZAJ; Yakugaku Zasshi; 73; 1953; 1086; Chem.Abstr.; 1954; 12021;

This informative post was brought to you by drone(tm) #342, who reminds you: euphoria -- its what's for dinner.

-drone #342


Rhenium
Member posted 10-15-98 10:20 AM
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Drone,
I have a similar paper here, it's in Japanese and was published around 1942. I can't read it, but the pictures suggest that they reflux the two and get the PPA and CO2 produced. They have a little picture of piperonal as well, but I can't figure out what they're trying to do with it.

Take care,

Rhenium


beagle boy
unregistered posted 10-15-98 10:50 AM
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Shwing! I like what I hear. But I only hear the basic outline. Can anyone (please) fill in the details. Like what solvent? How long a reaction time? Japanese writing looks cool, but thats about all I get out of it.

Labrat
Member posted 10-15-98 10:51 AM
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This is great and shit at the same time, great because it's one beautiful method of making PPA from simple reagents, shit because the article is in Japanese!
There are professional translators on the Net. How about paying one to translate the experimental section of the two Yakugaku Zasshi articles we have? If we share the costs, it won't be that expensive. Lr/



drone 342
Member posted 10-15-98 03:38 PM
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I have a friend who's a Japanese native. The problem is she knows nothing of chemistry. I sat down with her, and we went through the Yakugaku Zasshi article from a while back, but they really didn't say anything too intersting that I hadn't read elsewhere.
I could talk to her about translating the the two papers, but you'll have to send me the second one, Rhenium. Hope you have a scanner.

-drone #342


Cherrie Baby
Member posted 10-15-98 04:48 PM
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US patent 4501919 describes the reaction of glycine with p-nitrobenzaldehyde (in a two phases: H2O-DCM with MeBu3NCl as a PTC and concn. NaOH as a base, at 5-7#65533;C) to give b-hydroxy,p-nitro-tyrosine.
What would happen if alanine were used in place of glycine? The a-methyl analog?, which could be decarboxylated to p-nitro-norephedrine? Your guess is as good as mine. This looks like an interesting patent to explore as all the reagents are OTC.

It would work with other ring-substituents apart from nitro-, but I only discovered the Chem. Abstract tonite [CA:102, 204296] and I've not yet read the patent!



beagle boy
unregistered posted 10-15-98 08:48 PM
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Just checked that patent and saw that they were getting 70+% yield of the #65533;-hydroxy phenylalanine derivative from this easy procedure. And makes sense that alanine gives the alpha-methyl derivative, which should be more readily decarboxylated, no?
So if just refluxing these cpds. in say, xylene, will decarboxylate in good yields, this is one dandy scheme. Easy access to both ethanolamines and propanolamines for that comprehensive aminorex study.


Rhenium
Member posted 10-16-98 10:22 AM
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Drone : My friend with the scanner will be back in a couple of days. I will try sending it to you after that. This could be a very interesting procedure, hopefully the yields will be nice...
Take care,

Rhenium


Cherrie Baby
Member posted 10-16-98 05:56 PM
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beagle boy
In one of my references that quotes this they said that it was an Aldol condensation between the aldehyde and the amine forming an imine - which was subsequently hydroysised back to an amine, after condensation with a further 1 mol of glycine. So it looks like a different reaction mechanism to the one Drone's talking about - theres only a slight possibility that it might work with alanine. [I don't think so - I'm almost sorry I posted it - but it looked good to me when I first saw it.

[no don't ask me I never thought that amines underwent Aldol condensations either!]



beagle boy
unregistered posted 10-16-98 10:12 PM
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Cherrie:
I believe the patent you gave claims alanine could be used. Checkitout: http://www.patents.ibm.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/US04501919__
Wierd amine aldol condensation, different from what I was thinking. The question about decarboxylation remains, but I think these serine derivatives should decarboxylate quite a bit easier than tryptophan.

One downside to the above condesation is that the benzaldehyde would have to be in twofold XS. The extra benzaldehyde is claimed to be recovered for recycling after the reaction, but I'm not so keen about letting precious aldehydes stir around in aq. NaOH and then trying to recover them. Maybe the other route will turn out better.


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Wouter
(Stranger)
01-28-03 17:40
No 402127
Full text journal of the akabori-momotani reaction Bookmark

Has any one the Full text journal of the akabori-momotani reaction?
Akabori S., Momotani K., J.Chem.Soc.Japan, (1943), 64, 608; C.A., (1947), 41, 3774
Is it possible to copy it and send it to me (wouter@chemist.com). Please??



java
(Hive Bee)
01-28-03 18:24
No 402132
Re : Akabori..... Bookmark

This is all that is currently available....Akabori
Also known as Akabori-Momotani
Synthesis of aminoalcohols by aldol condesation of aminoacids with aromatic aldehydes.
Bibliography
Akabori S., Momotani K., J. Chem. Soc. Japan, 1943, 64, 608; C. A., 1947, 41, 3774
Dose K., Ber., 1957, 90, 1251.
Belikov V. M., Izv. AN SSSR. OHN, 1969, 2536.
although not available there is this at Rhodium's place......................https://www.rhodium.ws/pdf/akabori.phcho.glycine.pdf.
this ofcourse combined with Rhegis's post Post 367468 (Regis: "The most interesting CTH reaction ever documented?", Novel Discourse)
makes for a nice package for the synthesis for amphetamines.........java






Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
01-29-03 01:00
No 402201
Lots of threads on Akabori Bookmark

Post 122768 (dormouse: "Condensations of benzaldehyde and alanine", Serious Chemistry)
Post 245275 (IOC: "Akabori run", Novel Discourse)
Post 278820 (ChemicalSolution: "alanine and Akabori???", Chemistry Discourse)
Post 300434 (not existing)
Post 329052 (Aurelius: "Akabori-Momotani reaction", Chemistry Discourse)




Well there you have it. This reaction is turning out to be more and more realistic for everyone. SWIM is predicting a comeback of 4-MAR .

 


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pipernigrum
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Posted - Mar 21 2005 :  4:13:01 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Using more alanine should improve yields relative to benzaldehyde. IOC doesn't report what his 15% yield was relative to. He seems to have taken Fester's recipe, scaled up x2, and done a gram-for-gram subsitution of alanine for n-methyl alanine. I've seen a report of ~30 g PPA from 100 g benzaldehyde and 65 g alanine. Are there any OTC radical scavengers that would protect the benzaldehyde from excessive oxidation during storage and heating?

 


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jackoozzi
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Posted - Mar 21 2005 :  8:15:55 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  Delete Reply


And just witch isomer of alanine would you need there seems to be a few including

d alanine
l alanine
dl alanine
b alanine

 


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Astrum
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Posted - Mar 21 2005 :  8:54:26 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Well IOC used l-alanine. These posts are hardly comprehensive and much more experimentation is needed. But SWIM believes we're on the right track to an OTC method. SWIM will do some microscale experiments when he has some time (and money).

 


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jackoozzi
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My bad did not read properly and swim agrees it does look good and will be experimenting to

 


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