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endotherm
May 22nd, 2002, 09:11 PM
Let's hear it...
tried and true methods, experiences ,and some synthesis info.
Two i know are...
Hydrogen/ammonium(which one??) sulfide- Supposedly produced by the combination of sulfur and ammonia, i have some sitting in a pill bottle now, and it doesn't appear to be working, no smell and the sulfur doesn't seem to be soluble in the ammonia,is it supposed to?

Egg whites/drano - Six egg whites and 1 yolk are placed in a jar, an 1/2 cup draino is added, let it sit for a week, and the sodium hydroxide should rot the eggs to produce a vile smelling slurry.
(Never tried this)

SATANIC
May 22nd, 2002, 09:21 PM
Eggs left by themselves for long enough will do well enough.
Ducks eggs are huge, poke a hole in the thinner end, and leave in egg cartons in an out of the way place. in about a week thaey can be used.

I've never tried to make stink bombs, they are cheap off the shelf (kids toys) and stink like nothing on earth.

Digging up a broken pipe one day i found (among rubble / rusted parts) an egg, that must have been dropped in there when the hole was filled in originally, around 15 years. I still have it, inside a couple of plastic zip lock bags. Would it really stink? i reckon by now it would have calcified right?

Not much chem info there, but that's my tried and true experiences....

PYRO500
May 22nd, 2002, 09:32 PM
H2S is the gas commonly associated with rotten egg gas, it is very common in organic decay and causes pretty much anything that smells bas to do so. IIRC hydrogen sulfide is not very complicated to make and is very toxic, in fact the concentration is verry little when it smells, then as the concentration increases you can't smell it and it becomes fatal. The stinkbombs we all know and love are actually just H2S disolved in ater inside a glass vial. The reason your ammonia+ sulfur idea didn't work is that sulfur is not soluable in water witch common hosehold ammonia is ammonia gas dissolved in water 5% if I remember right. If you really want to find out what happens with ammonia and sulfur mixing then I recomend you melt the sulfur and heat a stopperd with tube flask and bubble the gasses through the stuff although I doubt much will happen.

<small>[ May 22, 2002, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: PYRO500 ]</small>

Pu239 Stuchtiger
May 22nd, 2002, 11:15 PM
Ammonium polysulfide, more specifically, (NH4)2S4, is an outstanding stench-producing substance. I wouldn't be surprised if it is often used in commercial stinkbombs. It only exists in solution; as the solvent volatizes, the ammonium polysulfide solution decomposes.

(NH4)2S4 --> N2 + 4H2S

(NH4)2S4 can be prepared by reacting aqueous NH3 with H2S4 (which is prepared by mixing Na2S4 with H2SO4, and distilling).

mr.evil
May 23rd, 2002, 10:46 AM
My favorite stink stuff is iron sufide, just light some iron powder with sulfer, and crush the parts.. put some acid over it and you'll be stinked out of the room <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Aluminiumsulfide works great, when this stuff gets wet it stinks like a dead animal....(i always put some AlS in the snow, so the people will walk it into their houses :D

<small>[ May 23, 2002, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: mr.evil ]</small>

Anthony
May 23rd, 2002, 01:05 PM
mr.evil - adding acid to metal-sulfide generates H2S!

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Man, I really should stop chewing this piece of lead...

Zach
May 23rd, 2002, 08:28 PM
you can buy a bottle of fox urine at most garden stores for repelling rabbits and such. it stinks, too

SATANIC
May 23rd, 2002, 08:42 PM
Uh, that would be a great job, collecting fox piss to sell.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

xyz
May 24th, 2002, 03:13 AM
I have a recipe for ammonium sulphide solution that I got from a practical jokes page (but I have never tried this recipe):

1.Mix 4 ounces sulphur with 8 ounces calcium hydroxide and add a quart of water.

2.Heat and stir the mixture until the sulphur has blended in and then pour off the yellowish liquid into a bucket while discarding any leftover solids.

3.Take the bucket outside and add 1 pound of ammonium sulphate.

4.Stir for about a minute and then cover with plastic wrap, leave to stand for about half an hour.

Would this work?

CyclonitePyro
May 25th, 2002, 12:42 PM
In my "flash info from ebay" thread, way down the first post,k the guy gives some stink bomb info. Something like getting hair and mixing it was vasaline and an oxidiser, then burning.

Rhadon
May 25th, 2002, 10:14 PM
If the smell of H2S isn't strong enough you can use ethane thiol. It is synthesized as follows:

C2H5OH + H2S --> C2H5SH + H2O

You will have to use a catalyst, e.g. aluminum oxide.

PYRO500
May 25th, 2002, 11:34 PM
I read somewhere that Butric acid will cause a place to stunk evern after the furniture is gone and it is recarpeted and repanted. but it can cause chemichal pneumonia

Pu239 Stuchtiger
May 26th, 2002, 12:34 AM
You're thinking of butyric acid, CH3CH2CH2COOH. It has a rancid odor.

xyz
May 26th, 2002, 01:22 AM
Will the ammonium sulphide recipe I posted earlier work? Anyone?

nbk2000
May 26th, 2002, 04:39 AM
I bought a 2 liter bottle of iso-butyric acid ($40) for a friend of mine through one of my sources.

This was the rankest smelling shit I've ever had the displeasure of smelling! It was a combination of month old sweaty sock/skunk/cabbage. Made our eyes water and we were gagging from just a tiny amount that spilled on the ground.

Sprayed a couple of ounces in a small shed with a syringe. A few days later it still stank to high heaven.

Rhadon
May 26th, 2002, 12:44 PM
XYZ, I don't know for sure if it will work, but reacting calcium hydroxide with elemental sulfur doesn't seem to be a good idea to me. If this should yield calcium hydrogen sulfide, it would be better to bubble H2S through calcium hydroxide.

xyz
May 27th, 2002, 05:35 AM
It's supposed to make ammonium sulphide and I assume (but don't know) that it wouldn't start any reactions until the ammonium sulfate was added.

I hope someone knows <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Pu239 Stuchtiger
May 27th, 2002, 12:30 PM
Ca(OH)2 + 6S --> H2S + SO2 + CaS4
CaS4 + (NH4)2SO4 --> CaSO4 + (NH4)2S4

You're simply preparing a solution of ammonium polysulfide.

xyz
May 30th, 2002, 06:25 AM
Thanks, all I wanted to know was if it would make Ammonium Polysulphide.

Stink Bomb time... :D

inferno
June 1st, 2002, 08:01 AM
NaOH (Drano, sodium hydroxide, caustic soda) and Al foil stinks like a bitch when mixed. It can also be used to make VERY loud "bombs", by putting a small amount of foil and drano in a bottle, adding water, capping and throwing. Its as loud as an M80 or more, same thing can be done with dry ice and water (or w/o water, but takes longer).

By small amount, i mean in a 2 litre coke bottle, about 1/2-3/4 of the way up the bottom curve before the straight sides of the bottle, filled with foil. Put about the same amount of drano in, squirt water, cap, shake quickly and throw. Ive seen them go off in about 3 seconds after shaking, and theyll blow your hand off if it goes off in your hand, not to mention the NaOH sprayed all over you. Its a pretty kewl and dangerous "bomb", but if youre really bored i guess. (Just for ratification, when i say "going off", the Al and NaOH react, filling the bottle with H2 very quickly until it bursts open VERY loudly, same idea as blowing up a ballon too much)

Im not sure of the products produced, but i know one is H2, thats what fills the bottle, not sure what happens to the Na and O, maybe just sodium peroxide or something, but it stinks anyway

And another one, add some hair (human i guess, but any will do, tell the hairdresser/barber you need it for a science experiment) to a KNO3/sugar smoke bomb. Really stinks.

<small>[ June 01, 2002, 07:56 AM: Message edited by: inferno ]</small>

mr.evil
June 1st, 2002, 08:30 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> And another one, add some hair (human i guess, but any will do, tell the hairdresser/barber you need it for a science experiment) to a KNO3/sugar smoke bomb. Really stinks.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">i've tried this once with powdered chicken bones :rolleyes: anyway, it worked really fine, that smell :p
Feathers will work too.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> NaOH (Drano, sodium hydroxide, caustic soda) and Al foil stinks like a bitch when mixed. It can also be used to make VERY loud "bombs", by putting a small amount of foil and drano in a bottle, adding water, capping and throwing. Its as loud as an M80 or more, same thing can be done with dry ice and water (or w/o water, but takes longer).
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">i think it explodes because of the gas production(H2)
anyway, it sounds kinda kewl.

inferno
June 1st, 2002, 09:02 AM
Yeah, its the H2 gas that fills the bottle until it ruptures. If you watch one/find parts of one you can actually see the shape of the bottle really warped from the inside pressure.

But yes they are very kewl, and i read in a news article discussed in Current Issues about a pipe-bombing letter box bomber, who was copy catted by a kid using these to blow up letter boxes. Go figure, theyre kewl, but a bit safer than kewl "explosives"

mr.evil
June 1st, 2002, 09:13 AM
well, atleast they work.. not something like detonate ANFO with a lighter :p or nitro sand :D

anyway, a little bit of topic.

inferno
June 2nd, 2002, 06:18 AM
Yeah sorry but if you go near where the bottle exploded, it really bloody stinks. Goes away pretty quick, and im not sure what the smell is, but im sure it can be used as a stink bomb with some refinement.

mongo blongo
June 2nd, 2002, 12:24 PM
I used to use NaOH +Al to fill up balloons with H2 (Hindenberg) but I never noticed any bad smell.
In a joke shop near where I live they sell this stuff "fart gas". It's a spray can and smells SO bad. When I was a kid we used to tape the spray button down and throw it through people's letter boxes. :D
Next time I pass the shop I will look to see what chemical is in it.

Pu239 Stuchtiger
June 2nd, 2002, 03:13 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">It can also be used to make VERY loud "bombs", by putting a small amount of foil and drano in a bottle, adding water, capping and throwing.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Just wait till you test your first high explosive... :)

VX
June 2nd, 2002, 07:17 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">if you go near where the bottle exploded, it really bloody stinks. Goes away pretty quick, and im not sure what the smell is </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">The smell is simply vaporised NaOH solution, it doesent smell when I have done it in the past, it's just that the vapor stings the nose, lungs etc and makes you choke :p .

I would have thought that this is a variation of the Al foil/HCl mix metioned in the chem weapons thread, reather than a good stink bomb.

If a bad smell is produced in your reaction, it is almost definatly due to impurities from somewhere.

S. Toppholzer
June 8th, 2002, 09:44 AM
<a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=42&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ft00&s1=grenade&OS=grenade&RS=grenade" target="_blank">US Patent N° 6,242,489 </a>

inferno
June 12th, 2002, 05:02 AM
lol yeah im sure HE's a louder. But these are very simple to put together, and arent too dangerous. Im not sure the sound is even that loud, but its a real low pitched kaboom sound which echos like anything, and has a really powerful thump to it

PYRO500
June 12th, 2002, 03:32 PM
How about kerosene? of anyone's spiled this on their clothes they know the smell isn't easy to get rid of. back when I was in the boy scouts we took kerosene lighter fluid and sprayed the hell outta peoples tents, clothes and cars it was great fun