Pepper Sprays-Australia

[green beret]

Well its mighty good to be back, good to see you all.

I've been doing a bit of searching around recently and I've found that pepper spray can be purchased LEGALLY in Australia. I dont know if anyone new this already but I'll tell you all where to get it; Perth, you can get it at some army disposals, just grab a Perth phone book and ring them to see if they sell it.The only problem is, they(the one I contacted) won't ship it, you have to come in to the store to buy it.
Here are the types you can get;

White 50gram Can (dosent specify brand or anything else)
KO pepper spray 50ml- 36 gram capacity
Pepper shield O.C. spray
Pepper spray with UV dye 20g capacity 10% O.C.

O.C. is oleoresin capsicum
The cheapest is $25au and the most expensive is $39au

I am still trying to find out if any of them will ship it to me, maybe someone from perth is willing to help?
Also these people sell Batons, night vision and heaps of other good stuff. You can visit their website at;
<a href="http://www.wellingtonsurplus.com.au" target="_blank">www.wellingtonsurplus.com.au</a>
Hope this was of some assistance.

[green beret]

Sorry to disapoint you all but, the only spray available is the white 50g can and when that sells out, they wont be getting anymore <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

[Eliteforum]

Perhaps you could ask them where they get it from. I don't know it stores are allowed to reveal there sources though? :confused:

[the resourceless reaperman]

How about making the pepperspray? it seems like a good alternative.

[darkdontay]

No no that would be going to far.. what sick demented person would have the balls to dare allready have talked about it.. Oh yeha NBK has allready covered that many times before... This thread just looks like a shameless SPAM AD

If you realy want some man .. do research look up what is in most sprays, are their any pats out their on them.. Look for all the information you can on them and make it your self., It is allways better to be self sufficent rather then a dependant. Just my view.
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Green Beret is an old member, and not one to advertise, rather just trying to help AU people - Zaibatsu

<small>[ October 18, 2002, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: zaibatsu ]</small>

[the resourceless reaperman]

I'm sorry I'll check for that kind of thing from now on :)

[Iv4]

Your crime is rape of the english language.

Your sentence? HED.

<small>[ November 09, 2002, 05:42 AM: Message edited by: nbk2000 ]</small>

[kingspaz]

i know for a fact the pigs use acetone as a solvent and volatalising agent in their pepper spray (they didn't use it on me by the way).
i think a good idea whould be to buy some REALLY hot chilis make a mash from them in the blender, add some alcohol, filter the chili body parts out then evapourate the alcohol to leave the chili oil. then mix with some acetone and put it in a bottle. they use a fair bit of acetone, 50%?

[SATANIC]

Defence sprays are legal all around australia, as long as the supplier (shop) bought them before the ban.

This doesn't stop most shop owners importing more and saying they got it before the ban.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Therefore the sprays will be around for a while yet. I know this for a fact. (a friend of a friend... etc.) Stock up now if you want, because the commercial sprays are going to be the safest / more useful way to do things.

For all the cheap asses, (like me) then there are plenty of improvised sprays put there to try.

[perske]

i know for a fact the pigs use acetone as a solvent and volatalising agent in their pepper spray...

Acetone will dissolve most plastic bottles. Just stick with the alcohol, that's a good enough solvent.

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Don't quote whole posts in the future. NBK

[FullMetalJacket]

In perth, look at Wellington Surplus for all that kind of gear.

[MaHem87]

Thanks Dude.

Obviously you live somewhat close to me, as I'm a Perth Boy too. Midland Surplus, in Perth, and I think Freo as well, if I remember correctly.

[Code Red]

Sorry to disapoint you all but, the only spray available is the white 50g can and when that sells out, they wont be getting anymore <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Must have a hell of alot of stock left, considering it's still for sale, in '06.:rolleyes:
FullMetalJacket, the link to the store you mentioned is in the first post!;)

[FullMetalJacket]

haha, you're right. My bad.

[cyclosarin]

Capsicum spray is described as a controlled weapon for WA on the police website, suggesting that it is as legal to own as bows, daggers and swords.

[FullMetalJacket]

If it is declared with the proper documentation, yes. There are 'Controlled' and 'Restricted' weapons classes, possession of the former without a license is illegal and possession of the latter in any circumstance is illegal.

[cyclosarin]

I believe you need a "lawful excuse" for possession of a controlled weapon but I've never heard of needing a licence or any documentation for that matter.

OC or "Pepper Spray", as it is colloquially known, is described under the Weapons Act as a "controlled weapon". Normally, a person cannot possess or carry a "controlled weapon" for the purpose of self defence, however, in the case of "pepper spray" the law is different. Regulation 7(2) permits a person to carry "pepper spray" for lawful defence, if that person has, on reasonable grounds, a suspicion or belief that he will require the "pepper spray" to defend himself. Therefore, the carrying of "pepper spray" for those reasons is legal, but the burden of proof to show that the person had this "reasonable belief or suspicion" remains with the person found carrying it. In other words, the onus of proving this does not remain with the prosecution.

[knowledgehungry]

You need a license to own pepper spray, or a bow in Aus?

I guess America really is the "greatest nation on God's green Earth".

[cyclosarin]

You need a license to own pepper spray, or a bow in Aus?

I guess America really is the "greatest nation on God's green Earth".
In WA it is possible to own a crossbow without a licence so I assume that this applies to other weapons in its class.

[Alexires]

In SA you need to be 18 to buy knives, swords, crossbows (can't get pistol crossbows) bows, shuriken, etc.

I believe they are classified as prohibited weapons and if you buy one, you need to register it with the firearms department at your local piggery.

[mike-hunt]

I have purchased pepper spray on line in Australia with no problems .
At http://www.kitbag.com.au/category330_1.htm
I suggest any Australian's wanting some get it wile you can.

[cyclosarin]

I noticed the other day that Bunbury (WA) Army Surplus was advertising pepper spray as well.

[Charles Owlen Picket]

Just as an aside, have you fellows considered developing a source for oleolresin-capsicum (sp) and working on a more DIY model? Admittedly I don't live in Oz but when I have a wee challenge on procurement, I look to the basics.

I'd be willing to bet that with a bit or applied science and some organic source you could "write your own ticket" & have anything you'd care to. [Including a "stun-grenade" model using a burst charge for area-level irritant amplification, etc, etc.]

[shrub]

In perth you can buy pepper spray in deli's and newsagents its not that hard to find. Also you need a license to buy batons from wellington surplus.

[Red Beret]

Yeah, I have my own chillie plant now! Even if you were a lazy son of a bitch, all you would have to do is put your chillies though a blender with some vodka, lemon juice, or vinegar, etc and strain the sluice through cheesecloth or similar after letting the mess sit for 24hrs.

Then just load it into your spray module and you are set. Not the most high performance spray but it will work....could also mix it with oil to provide a "sticking" effect.

On the subject of explosively dispersed irritants, what about cayenne pepper, that burns like hell? If one had even a basic knowlege of explosives, it wouldn't be hard to rig a bursting charge in a container of cayenne pepper or chilli powder. BP should be OK, internal burst charge, soft walled container. Should work wonders in a closed area.

A small pipe or cardboard tube closed at one end, designed to always land "muzzle up", loaded with BP followed by a wad and then the irritant, should work very well. Essentially it's a mortar. Scale it up or down, whatever takes your fancy.

[The_Juggler]

Tasmania has really low security on bows and the like. You can buy a bow on your own if you look 16, or a high-powered slingshot for only $25.