Ghilli suit

[Fallout85]

For a long time now I've wanted to contruct a ghilli suit. Why you ask? Paintball, hunting, something to do, sneaking about/scaring the shit out of people, looks cool. Well anyway, a buddy of mine and I just bought materials to make ghilli suits and we will begin making them soon. I just wanted to know if anyone else in the forum has made one before and if they have any tips? Pics would be nice too. When mine is done I'll post my pics if anyone wants. I used the following site for my instructions: <a href="http://www.paintballgods.com/chapter3.htm" target="_blank">http://www.paintballgods.com/chapter3.htm</a> - it looks pretty good but I doubt that it will take that long to contruct (of course I have a sewing machine) and it wasn't nearly that expensive. Thanks.

[Whitey]

Found this on sniper country
<a href="http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/GhillieMake.htm" target="_blank">http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/GhillieMake.htm</a>

Be advised Ghillie suits can be a fire hazard. A ghillie suit is basically like a pile of rags so they catch fire easily. I recently heard of someone playing paintball with one on. He and his friends were using fireworks to add to the excitement. One went off near him and his suit caught fire and he was killed.

[Fallout85]

Good point. I hadn't really considered that. I was planning on using flash bangs (more flash than bang) or trip flares around the perimeter of the base to liven it up a bit. Setting aside a bucket of water and a fire extinguisher wouldn't be a bad idea now that I think about it :) .

[0EZ0]

There is a fire-proofing spray (and also a water-proofing spray which can be purchased for Ghilli suits. Check some of the links on the "How to build a ghilli suit" page.

[nbk2000]

Simply soak your suit in a saturated solution of borax. That'll make it fireproof. Just don't get it soaking wet or it'll wash out the protection.

Using natural fibers like cotton and wool will prevent a spark from turning into a fire since these fibers char instead of burn.

And, naturally, a ghillie suit doesn't do you any good if you haven't practiced with it and can stay either perfectly still for long periods of time, or move without making a noise. Either thing, noise or movement, negates the suits protection.

[AmonDin]

Also take into account your sorroundings and the people you play with. A ghillie suit isn't going to do much good in an urban or sandy environment, likewise if everybody you play with knows the territory as well or better than you. If everybody knows that pile of leaves isn't supposed to be there, it won't be very good for cover.

[vulture]

When hiding in the woods, be sure to rub the ghillie suit into animal excretions. Otherwise you risk an animal betraying you by suddingly sniffing somewhere and then running in panic. Don't laugh, it's a basic sniper trick...

[SATANIC]

well, i have naerly finished mine...

i am going to get pictures as soon as it's finished, and i get my website running well.... which should be soon. I am just waiting on borrowing a digital camera, and a glue gun, which i'll buy one of if he doesn't hurry up with it.

mine was constructed using DPCU's (auscam) which has 'built in' thermal / infra red blocking, to make it harder for the enemy to pick you up. so far i've done the shirt and a bit of the hood, using just strips of other auscam gear... and with the glue gun i'm adding scrim net strips, which is like personal cam net....

overall the effect should be good, without the hassle of using string / hessian... which falls apart really easily, and leaves bits everywhere.

i can't say i will poking animal shit into the fabric..... it would just make it difficult to breathe etc.... i can't say i would want it stinking if i was going to use it a lot.. besides, I reckon there are lots of animals that go to smell other animal shit anyway, you'd end up attracting animals...

[link]

Yep in Aus you cant go past DPCUs for your Killing suit if you visit a reserve base or full time unit and ask to speak to someone in the
Q-store you might be able to pick up a bunch of shredded cams and Green net for a carton of beer, as long as yoou explain its for hunting they will be more than happy to throw you some, After they shred old cams they discard anyway, Ive never heard anyone burning to death in their ghillie suit and dpcus are quite flammable but ive had all sorts of stuff over several of mine in the past and they have never gone up.
one thing to keep in mind though is make it 3 peice legs shirt and headpeice, "why you ask?" well take into consideration the increased temprature factor. you will chew through the water so it makes sense to reduce some cam as a tradeoff for hydration then when your in your position observing your killing ground apply all your cam.
NOTE :- take into consideration all aspects of camoflage
1. SHAPE 2.SHADOW 3.SHINE 4. SILLOUTE 5.COLOUR 6.MOVEMENT
if any of these aspect are overlooked your camouflage weakens
also i have sat next to animals for hours on end without them smelling me and fleeing it is sudden movement that will startle an animal, after a month in the field do you think a sniper is rolling in animal shit, NOPE trust me after a month in the field you smell bad enough already just trust your cam and you will be fine, i hope that helps.

[Arkangel]

I think it does Link, although you missed out surface (I think that might be the same as colour) and straight lines. Don't have my basic battle skills book to hand, so can't check if it was 6 or 7 S's, plus the M <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[link]

yep your right there ol 6s and an m although straight lines come under shape and surface is almost the same as colour minus the texture
Much of the modern day sniper techniques are derived from the tradition of the Scots "ghillie" (professional deer stalker), hence today's standard sniper accessory the "ghillie suit".

The old ghillie's maxim...
"Stalk as close as ye kin, laddie - then git ten paces closer!"

[SATANIC]

The pam (MLW - Infantry training, Field craft and target detection) (MLW = Manual of Land Warfare) states:

1. Shape,
2. Shadow, (cast and contained shadow)
3. Sillouette,
4. Surface,
5. Spacing, and
6. Movement.

If I get time I'll scan that section of the manual. It comes with demonstations in pictures. Unfortunately i can't scan the whole thing, but I have a fair few aussie manuals if anyone's after anything in particular........ I'll get started on the demolitions one first... It fits in here a bit more.

Link and arkangel, you've had time in the forces in aussie by the sound of it? drop me an email if you have time. I'm after some pieces of that battle skills hand book, if it's the one I'm thinking of.

and as for DPCU's, they're always lying around the bases in bins at vehicle parks and things, used for rags. they're often pretty faded, but they do well.

I'm still trying to get hold of a digital camera to get pics of my suit. It's not the best, but fair enough for a first effort.

[spike669]

i have search around for info about ghillie suit and this is the best site i could find

http://www.geocities.com/stalker217/ghillie/

[ossassin]

By the way, the site that Site669 posted is considered one of the best in existence today. I'd definately recommend it.

[Ropik]

Well, I have one of these, natural fibers and strings dyed and knotted on masking net. You should also consider if you want the most effective suit if you pay for it with ability to move swiftly. I personally went for worse masking but better movability.
And do not forget to cover your head shape real good - itis one of most recognizable shapes of human body.

[Jacks Complete]

I'm reading that site. I sure wish I had found it before I made my one.

Mine looks shite compared to those ones, and the netting idea is great, that would have saved so much time!!!

Anyways, having read a few bits, I can see that mine can (perhaps) be saved. Mine's just a jacket, mind, so it will never be as effective as a full suit. And I will need to get creative with the spray paints, too.

I must confess, however, that I tend to just use a set of realtree that I got cheap. You can just stand still and you disappear!

[TheBicher]

What is this thermal image blocking material? Mylar? Surely it must make for a damn hot suit! I was also thinking about making one, I just have to figure out where to get the time/materials. I remember seeing a ghilli suit for sale that folded up into a sort of fanny pack. It took something like a minute to fold it all up. It only offered sufficient camoflauge while squatting, but I think this sort of idea is promising. The idea could be improved upon by including legs, too. I don't think a suit like this whould be THAT much harder to make once it is properly planned out.

[megalomania]

Hey, I like that site, very informational. That is just the kind of informational spirit I like here. Would somebody mind contacting the guy and asking him if he would consent to Roguesci.org hosting his website?

[Corona]

I've ripped the website and made a PDF of it and am sending it upstairs right now. I thought it a good idea since he knows what he's doing.... but his website can't handle too much traffic. Might as well have an extra copy someplace.