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megalomania
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Agent Blak
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posted November 26, 2000 01:39 AM
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Does any one know of a way(Program Most likely) to generate "White Noise."
FYI: The US Military Funded a Project researching The effects of "White Noise" @ I think the U of S. They found that listening to White noise makes it so the brain cannot relax because there is no pattern. It is just random Chaos. After extended exposure(Week or so) to white noise without rest in between you will go crazy.

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posted November 26, 2000 01:41 AM
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Poor Man's Pyscological Warfare
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posted November 26, 2000 01:49 AM
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Test cool-edit-2000 from syntrillium.
It generates white and pink noise and much more.


Agent Blak
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posted November 26, 2000 01:52 AM
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Where can I get this Prog on the NET?
And what is Pink noise?


Phobia
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posted November 26, 2000 05:38 AM
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I have Cool Edit and I just tested the white noise, I can see why it would drive someone crazy. I'll make you a sample wav if you'd like, just tell me what fequency.


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posted November 26, 2000 05:48 AM
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This is actually a very cool program, I can also make varias tones. I just made one with an 8000 base frequency and it started to give me a big headache. I can imagine what this would do to someone at an extendend length of time. I have the program on CD and I'm not sure where it is on the net, I can try to find it for you if you'd like, I beleive my friend knows where it is.


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posted November 26, 2000 07:29 AM
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<a href="http://www.download.com" target="_blank">www.download.com</a>
goto search and search for "cool edit 2000"


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posted November 26, 2000 09:54 AM
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Sound can be cool. White noise is used by the Army, it is broadcasted in between interigations to stop you thinking, relaxing etc. Other frequencys to try are 13hz and 33hz, these reproduce certain organ freqencys in your body and can 'trip' it. (the first one will make you shit yourself and the second will make girls come.
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posted November 26, 2000 10:42 AM
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Ahh the so called brown noise they refer to in "The South Park Movie." Thanx DwArF for the link.
Does anyone know what is pink noise?
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posted November 26, 2000 11:54 AM
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All it sounds like is static off the Television set or Radio. The stuff we listen to in Psych 20 Was that but it had doors slaming, Syrins, Finger Nails on the Calk Board, People taking but you could only Make out certain words and barely, etc.
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posted November 26, 2000 04:50 PM
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Can anyone tell me some of the other frequencies that have any significance? Maybe a web page of people who research this stuff? Thanks.


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posted November 26, 2000 05:56 PM
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I'm not exacly sure but I believe that the 7hz frequency causes nasuea(sp) and has some other negative effects. I'll try to find some kind of a text on it and if I do I'll post it here.
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posted November 26, 2000 07:04 PM
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Well I couldn't find a file on the 7hz frequency so I'm still not sure about it.
But I did find this to explain what white noise is for those of you who have no idea what it means. <a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/question47.htm" target="_blank">http://www.howstuffworks.com/question47.htm</a>
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posted November 26, 2000 08:08 PM
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Are the random sounds of many different people in a classroom considered "whitenoise"?
if so, this may explain why I could never stay awake in school
Seriously though, why is whitenoise considered a weapon? I find it relaxing as hell.
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posted November 26, 2000 08:54 PM
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I got this off vehmot's site: &lt;pre&gt;&lt;BR&gt; *******************&lt;BR&gt; * *&lt;BR&gt; * PANDORA'S BOX *&lt;BR&gt; * *&lt;BR&gt; * BY DR. RAT *&lt;BR&gt; * *&lt;BR&gt; *******************&lt;P&gt;Brought to you from the expansive, well equipped, and very expensively&lt;BR&gt;decorated laboratories of Dr. Rat C.I.&lt;P&gt;This box falls into the prank category. It has little phreak/hack use, except&lt;BR&gt;for irritating the hell out of anyone on the phone. It makes operators more&lt;BR&gt;pissed than turning on your carrier for them.&lt;P&gt;A phasor is a device using high intensity sound to produce pain. I'm sure you&lt;BR&gt;have seen phasors (crowd/dog control, pain fields, etc.) for sale in&lt;BR&gt;Information Unlimited ads or catalogs. Unfortunately, these often cost $100&lt;BR&gt;to $1000. Natchly this wouldn't do for Dr. Rat so I created the poor man's&lt;BR&gt;phasor or, Pandora's Box. Producing the sound was easy and the circuit is&lt;BR&gt;probably the simplest meathod to produce a variable sound from a 555 chip. The&lt;BR&gt;only drawback to this box is that you need to use a $13.00 tweeter because it&lt;BR&gt;uses so little power and gives the loudest output of high frequency sound.&lt;P&gt;Parts list with Radio Shack cat. numbers&lt;P&gt; 1. One 555 Timer (RS# 276-1723)&lt;BR&gt; 2. One .01mfd capacitor (RS# 272-131)&lt;BR&gt; 3. One 100K variable resistor (RS# 271-1722)&lt;BR&gt; 4. One tweeter (RS# 40-1381)&lt;BR&gt; 5. One 9v battery&lt;BR&gt; 6. Some wire (any kind - Dr. Rat suggest RS# 278-1294)&lt;P&gt;NOTE: You can change the values of #2 or #3 on the list slightly. But these are&lt;BR&gt; extremely easy to find so try to use them.&lt;P&gt;Circuit for Pandora's Box:&lt;P&gt; \ -9 Volts +9 Volts&lt;BR&gt; ³ \ ³ ÚÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ \ÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄ´1 T 8ÃÄÄ´&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ³ ³ O ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ /Ä¿ Àij(ÄÂÄÄÄ´2 P 7³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ / ³ ³ ³ ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; / ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄ+ÄÄÄ´3 5 6ÃÄÄ+Ä¿&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ³ 5 ³ ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ÚÄ´4 5 5³ ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÙ ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ³ ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ ³ ³&lt;BR&gt; ÀÄ/\/\ÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ&lt;BR&gt; ^&lt;P&gt;SYMBOLS:&lt;P&gt; ³&lt;BR&gt; ³ or ÄÄÄ = Wire (Vertical/Horizontal)&lt;BR&gt; ³&lt;P&gt; + = Where two wires cross over each other but don't touch&lt;P&gt; ³( = .01mfd CAPACITOR&lt;P&gt; /\/\&lt;BR&gt; ^ = 100K Variable resistor&lt;P&gt;\&lt;BR&gt;³ \&lt;BR&gt;³ \&lt;BR&gt;³ ³ = Tweeter&lt;BR&gt;³ /&lt;BR&gt;³ /&lt;BR&gt;/&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;NOTE: Pin 1 of the 555 is the pin next to a small dos on top of the chip.&lt;BR&gt; Variable resistors have three leads; the circuit requires only two so&lt;BR&gt; connect one wire to the middle lead and the other wire to either of the&lt;BR&gt; outer leads.&lt;P&gt;Here's a pin by pin reading of the wiring in case the circuit got screwed&lt;BR&gt;during transmission:&lt;P&gt;1. Pin 1 connected to the -9v, one lead of the tweeter, and one end of the&lt;BR&gt; capacitor&lt;BR&gt;2. Pin 2 connected to pin 6 and the other end of the capacitor&lt;BR&gt;3. Pin 3 connected to other lead of tweeter and to one lead of the variable&lt;BR&gt; resistor&lt;BR&gt;4. Pin 4 connected to pin 8&lt;BR&gt;5. Pin 5 not connected&lt;BR&gt;6. Pin 6 connected to pin 2 and other lead of variable resistor&lt;BR&gt;7. Pin 7 not connected&lt;BR&gt;8. Pin 8 connected to +9v and the pin 4&lt;P&gt;P.S. Works especially well on animals, girls, and young people because the&lt;BR&gt;bones in their ears are smaller. Use the variable resistor to adjust the pitch&lt;BR&gt;to just above the highest pitch you can hear. You might not notice anything at&lt;BR&gt;first. After a short time you should fell a a tingle or buzzing in your neck,&lt;BR&gt;ears, or sinus. A little while longer and you should feel a head/neck ache that&lt;BR&gt;grows in pain. Try turning it to an audibal frequency and blasting it through&lt;BR&gt;the phone. Remember girls can hear higher pitches than boys so they can tell&lt;BR&gt;when you have it on. Try turning the pitch a little higher so they can't hear&lt;BR&gt;it. Entertain your class during finals. They can't hear anything because it's&lt;BR&gt;too high pitched.&lt;P&gt; Have Fun!&lt;P&gt; Dr. Rat&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;DR. RAT C.I.&lt;BR&gt;RAT LABS, S.F., CA

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megalomania
March 4th, 2003, 01:40 AM
PYRO500
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posted November 26, 2000 08:57 PM
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well, I dont know much about html so can some mod fix this?


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posted November 26, 2000 09:16 PM
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it is used for Psychological Warfare and Torture just as LSD and Sleep Deprevation are. It will eventually drive them to the funny farm(sometimes for good). If you want know if someone knows something or anything about your opperations, etc. Tie them up and you and you asociates take turn watching them. Ask them Questions if they will not answer or co-operate leave them alone for a little bit but just let them sit and do nothing(especially sleep). Then come back ask the question again. continue this till they get an answer. then weigh this agianst the intellegence that you have aready garther. If this is done for extended periods of time you must allow them to Drink otherwise you could kill them and that is bad. also wear a disguise(balaclava) when doing this.
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posted November 26, 2000 09:57 PM
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Well, I tried the 7 hz and nothing happened, so I put it on loop and about 10 seconds later my stomach felt incredibly sick, I turned off the sound and it went away almost immediatly. Looks like we found one, I'm gonna have to keep a list of these. Please let me know if you find any others.


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posted November 26, 2000 10:35 PM
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You get Cooledit2000 at <a href="http://www.syntrillium.com" target="_blank">http://www.syntrillium.com</a>
It is aprox. 8 MB large. The serial/crack is available on some cracksites in the net or send me your email for the crack.

Pink noise is a rush noise of all frequencies where the frequencies amplitude run lower the higher the freq. grow. Amp.=1/f

White noise is a rush noise of all frequencies where the frequencies amplitude is the samefor all freqs. Amp.= 1


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posted November 26, 2000 10:45 PM
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I think whit noise is not useable as a weapon. But a normal 16-20 KHz sine wave (so high freq. that you can´t hear it anymore) distributed from a few piezo horns at maximum power is good. It feels like your head is blown up like a balloon and your stomach comes up.


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posted November 27, 2000 05:58 AM
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you have an audio system that can reproduce 7Hz?! they're all supposed to be limited now because during WWII the germans dicovered that 9Hz 25 watts at one metre, if played for around ten to fifteen minutes kills people!


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posted November 27, 2000 04:59 PM
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Hmmmm, recording the 7hz onto a tape recorder and placing it somewhere in a classroom could be entertaining.
Would a recording work? Seeing as how the quality might not be that good.

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posted November 27, 2000 05:12 PM
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Playing a 33hz tone could be funny in class - Picture standing in a corridor and hearing all these females orgasming inside the room.
Add a few TV cameras, several blank VHS cassettes...

Also, the other day I was messing with the overdrive on my 100watt amp for my E Guitar, strummed the strings to see what it sounded like.

Felt like my stomach had be blown out of my chest through my back.

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posted November 27, 2000 05:26 PM
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Has anyone actually tried the 33hz tone and had it work? Also, is there a list of these on the net somewhere?


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posted November 27, 2000 06:34 PM
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a tape recorder cant reproduce that low a sound, but if you get a recorder deck and hook it up to your computer, then get it and hook it up to a good subbwoofer, well you can fugure the rest.
i made tones as low as 7 hz with my computer subwoofer, but the thing shakes like hell!it is kinda wierd, the walls, you can fel them shake but thesubwoofer is making a quiet ratteling noise!


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posted November 27, 2000 08:48 PM
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Does anybody have a schematic like the one PYRO500 provided, but to produce a 33hz tone, made out of Radio Shack parts?
I would love to try this thing.
I looked around a bit but couldn't find anything.
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to make a 33 hz tone loud ennough to be effective you would need alot of power! plus you need a sub-woofer to get the sound right, if you plan to build a unit that you can have in your home look on the internet for a varible sine wave oscilator, also you would need an amplifier to hook up to it and a good powerful subwoofer system, you might have luck with a base guitar amp


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posted November 27, 2000 09:07 PM
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Considering the size it proboably wouldn't be hand-held(that sucks).
Mabey it could be put inside a car and be tested it out next time you go pick up a date.

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posted November 27, 2000 09:18 PM
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No, infra sonic don´t kill. It shall have a psychological effect to people when it is distributed with a few thousand watts in the enviroment(more than 1 meter).
But it is very difficult to obtain a speaker that can reproduce sine wave lower than 25 Hz.
These speakers must be very large.I have seen a speaker from cabasse wich came down to 15 Hz. (If you want one, say good bye to your money)Other bass-speakers produces a short cut to the amp.. The resistance, 4 or 8 Ohm, drops extreme when the frequency becomes lower than the specifications of the speaker.(most 35-50Hz)
You can not hear, only feel, real infrasonic . If you hear something it is from your clipping amplifier.


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posted November 27, 2000 09:51 PM
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actualy you can get speakers that can go that low they are called SUBWOOFERS
I hooked mine up to the computer and you must have an amp rated for low frequencys and it must have a low enough signal not to overload the amp (clipping) I have hooked up a 13 hz tone genorator with a subwoofer that can produce sounds as low as 7 hz and had windows rattining with it and you can do it at home. in the field of high pitch tones I used to live next door to a guy that had a sonar transducer and could ping it loud enough to shatter a glass like 3 or 4 feet away! that sob really hurt my ears with earmuffs on!


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posted November 27, 2000 10:23 PM
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Anyone know if it is possible to make a small device that can create any of these frequencies? Also, what is the lowest frequency a standard computer speaker can put out?


Phobia
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posted November 27, 2000 10:25 PM
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I've got another question. I have been making and testing some of these frequencies. I got one girl that was willing to test the 33 hz one and sent her a wav. She said she could hear anything. I have a Sound Blaster Live, is it possible that a standard SB16 can't put out that low of a frequency?


Curious George
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posted November 28, 2000 12:18 AM
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here's the deal with the wav file. She probably does not have a subwoofer in her speaker system. Standard computer speakers, even high quality ones will not put out a 33hz frequency. In order to do this, you need a subwoofer with the base turned all the way up. I made the tone, and have checked to see if i can hear it and I can. Now i just need to get a girl over... =)


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posted November 28, 2000 02:14 AM
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could someone send me a wav of it at 7hz?
by email

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posted November 28, 2000 09:47 AM
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Two ways to produce infrasonic frequencies:
-a gas powered pipe, like used for organs up to now I haven´t been able to find anything on pipe design and accoustics
-two speakers, transmitting different signals, which through interference create infrasonic
Nice article on the topic <a href="http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/gavreaus.htm" target="_blank">http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/gavreaus.htm</a>


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posted November 28, 2000 01:40 PM
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Hah, sickos. You are almost as bad as the CIA.


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posted November 28, 2000 01:54 PM
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If you school has a high quality Sound system(Most do). You good Send an ultra low frequence through them durning and assembly or such. it could be interesting.
*Psychotic Laughing*
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posted November 28, 2000 05:42 PM
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most of you probably can't reproduce the sounds even with subwoofers, mine is from one of those rock concert giant speaker arrays (says the surplus shop owner) and to tes your freq. capability you need to try a low low freq like 10 hz and play it, you should not be able to hear it but it should rattle windows


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posted November 28, 2000 06:14 PM
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I seen a car that could produce 43 hz, it wobbled shop windows and keeps smashing his wing mirror.
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whenever my brother and i competed in USAC sound quality competitions, they would have SPL competitions also. some of those cars were crazy. they could successfully produce less than 10hz tones. they rattled to no end and there have been people that have blown out winshields just because of the sheer pressure. i always got sick around the SPL competitions tho partly because of exhaust fumes and partly because of the sound. sound is pretty crazy shit.


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posted November 28, 2000 07:00 PM
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I don't use subwoofers, I just have a pair of relativly high quality ear phones and I can definitly feel the effects of the 7hz sound.


PYRO500
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you are probably not hearing 7 hz and to feel the effects at 7 hz your head would probably explode, the best speakers i have seen at radioshack are 26 min, mine is a rock concert speaker with a somewhat makeshift and inadequit amplifier, and a big plywood box under my desk. and it is inadequite for making 7 hz it has gone as low as 10 hz though, not enough to have much of an effect


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posted November 28, 2000 07:58 PM
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I saw an article in "New Scientist" about "SASERS". A SASER does for sound what a LASER does for light. Extremely directional, highly coherent beams of sound. The energy conversion is lousy (less than 1%) but that will change as the technology matures.
What could you do with a SASER? Cause solid objects to explode from internal resonation, ignite materials from resonant heating, project sonic holograms (sound that only the target can hear, and no one around him) to make people think the victim is hearing voices in his head, possible standing wave "force field" of air overpressure that repels people, and all kinds of other neat shit.

The neat thing about sound as compared to light is that smoke can't stop it, you can't detect it unless it's aimed right at you, and maybe not even then if it's infra/ultra sonic. No protective coatings will stop sound.

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posted November 28, 2000 08:15 PM
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WHOA, wish I had one of those.
Do you have a link with more info on it?

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posted November 29, 2000 12:45 AM
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Hello all,
here is a paper on 6-10hz, also from Borderland!
Effects of 6-10 Hz ELF on Brain Waves
David S. Walonick

There is evidence that ELF magnetic waves can affect brain waves. These set of
experiments were designed to study the effects of ELF rotating magnetic fields on the brain.

The specific ELF frequencies I was interested in studying are 6-10 Hertz. These frequencies
are the same as those produced by the human brain in the theta and alpha states. Generally,
specific brain wave frequency ranges can be associated with mood or thought patterns.
Frequencies below 8 Hertz are considered theta waves. While these seem to be some of the
least understood frequencies, they also seem to be associated with creative, insightful
thought. When an artist or scientist has the "aha" experience, there's a good chance he or
she is in theta. Alpha frequencies are from 8 to 12 Hertz and are commonly associated with
relaxed, meditative states. Most people are in an alpha state during the short time
immediately before they fall asleep. Alpha waves are strongest during that twilight state
when we're half asleep and half awake. Beta frequencies (above 12 Hertz) coincide with
our most "awake" analytical thinking. If you are solving a math problem, you're brain is
working at beta frequencies. Most of our waking hours as adults are spent in the beta state.

A question of importance is: "If we can electronically shift the brain wave frequencies to
alpha or theta, will a person's moods or thought patterns change to those commonly
associated with those frequencies?". In other words, if we can electronically move a
person's brain waves to the alpha frequencies, will they become more relaxed? Will their
state of consciousness change to coincide with their brain waves, even if those brain waves
were electronically induced? These are important questions with far reaching implications.

When I began these experiments, I was well aware of the possible ethical implications
involved in ELF research. For example, if I were carrying an ELF transmitter operating at
alpha frequencies, would the people around me be affected as well? Would they
unconsciously gravitate toward me because they'd become more relaxed as they moved
closer to me? Would they like me more because they felt "good" when they were around
me? What if a salesman were carrying an ELF transmitter? Would people be influenced to
buy something because they were more relaxed around the salesman? Could entire
populations be influenced to be comfortable with ideas they would normally reject? These,
and many others, are serious ethical considerations involved with ELF research. They
cannot be taken lightly.

I decided to undertake this research with full knowledge of the ethical implications. While
there is the potential for misuse, a desire for knowledge and understanding are part of being
human, and the potential benefits to humanity are great. What if we could treat depression,
insomnia, anxiety, stress and tension with ELF magnetic fields? What if we could increase
intelligence or improve learning? As in any scientific endeavor, there are both positive and
negative potential uses for any discovery. One only need look at the development of atomic
energy to understand the benefits/misuse dichotomy. It is my personal belief that the
potential benefits to humanity justify the research.

I began by collecting all the available research on ELF fields. Lana Harris, a secondary
research specialist, did an excellent job in acquiring virtually all the available research in this
area. In addition to a multitude of published journal articles, several military and NASA
research reports were ordered. A review of the research showed that most studies had
been performed to determine the effects of 50-60 Hertz high voltage power-line fields.
Since these are the frequencies of most of the world's electrical power distribution systems,
the importance of understanding the effects on plant and animal life are evident. To a much
lesser degree, a few researchers had concentrated on lower power and lower frequencies
(the focus of this study).

Equipment
The equipment required for this research was easily attainable, with the notable exception of
a stable frequency counter with .01 Hertz resolution. Accurate frequency measurements
were essential for this research, so I designed and built a digital frequency counter capable
of measuring frequency to the hundredth of a Hertz (plus or minus .005 Hertz). A 100 KHz
crystal Colpitt's oscillator (calibrated with WWV) was used as a time base and divided by
ten to the seventh power to attain the desired resolution.

Other equipment used is: a Biosone II Brainwave Monitor and Myosone 404 EMG
Monitor (Bio-Logic Devices, Inc., 81 Plymouth Rd., Plainview, NY 11803) a Model 3011
Digital Display Function Generator (BK Precision Dynascan Corp., 6460 West Cortland
St., Chicago, IL 60635); and IBM PC compatible computer with a clock speed of 7.16
MHz (the faster the clock speed the better); a SAC-12 A to D signal acquisition board
(Qua Tech, Inc., 478 E. Exchange St., Akron, OH 44308); a Codas II video board and
software release 3 (Dataq Instruments, Inc., 825 Sweitzer Ave., Akron OH 44311); a
Fluke 77 digital multimeter (John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., PO Box C9090, Everett, WA
98260); and StatPac Gold statistical analysis software (Walonick Associates, Inc., 6500
Nicollet Ave. S., Minneapolis, MN 55423).

The transducer was a 24" diameter hand-wound coil, consisting of 1000' of #25 magnetic
wire. The coil had a DC resistance of 32.4 ohms. It was mounted on a 26" square piece of
bakalite board for stability. Two dowels were mounted with plastic ties onto the board so
they extended 24" from opposite sides of the board and the entire apparatus was secured
by two microphone stands.

Experimental Design
All twenty-two subjects were friends or acquaintances of the author. There was no
remuneration to participants. The excitement or novelty of participating in a brain wave
research experiment seemed to provide sufficient reward in and of itself.

Subjects were sent a pre-experiment letter briefly describing the intent of the experiment and
what they could expect. They were asked not to use any drugs or alcohol for 24 hours
before their appointment, and not to wear any metal jewelry. (It was thought that metal
jewelry might distort the magnetic field, thus creating uncontrolled inconsistencies between
subjects.)

Upon arrival at the laboratory, participants were given a short orientation to the procedure
and any questions they had were answered. They were hooked up to the EEG monitor
(frontal to occipital, midline) and then allowed to listen to a relaxation tape for five minutes.
The purpose of the relaxation tape was to establish a "relaxation level" baseline and to
relieve some of the anxiety associated with the experiment. At the end of five minutes, the
headphones were removed and the subject was told they were at a relaxation level of 5 on a
scale from zero to ten (0 being very tense and 10 being very relaxed). This was the baseline
they were to use for reporting their relaxation level following each ELF exposure. Subjects
were told that they could choose to stop the experiment at any time.

Each ELF exposure consisted of a ten second, sine-wave transmission separated from one
another by 45 - 60 seconds of no exposure. The voltage fed to the coil was 3.1 VAC
(RMS). The coil was positioned 18" in front of the subjects head. The outputs from the ELF
transmitter (function generator) and the brain wave monitor were fed directly into the
computer A to D board, allowing both to be displayed on the computer monitor (and
recorded on disk) simultaneously. The sampling rate of the A to D converter was set at
2000 samples per second for the entire experiment. This was sufficient to visually detect
differences of .1 Hertz between the ELF and brain wave frequencies. Subjects were not
told when a transmission was beginning. However, at the end of each transmission, they
were asked to "report". This was their current relaxation level based on the zero to ten
scale. They also reported any feelings they had experienced and these were recorded
verbatim. Twenty-one frequencies were presented to each subject (from 6 to 10 Hertz in
increments of .2 Hertz. For half the subjects, these frequencies were randomly selected. For
the other subjects, they began at 10 Hertz and were decreased by .2 Hertz with each
transmission. Subjects were not told the order of frequencies that would be presented to
them.

Post acquisition software was used to visually examine the coherence (frequencies) and
synchronously (phase relationship) between the transmitted ELF and prominent brain
waves.

Results
Examination of the computer data revealed substantial differences between subjects. Some
subjects showed lock-on (entrainment) over a wide frequency range, while other subjects
showed no lock-on whatsoever. In general, lock-on occurred most frequently from 8.6 to
10 Hertz and less frequently below 8.6 Hertz.

One subject displayed lock-on for all frequencies from 7.4 to 10 Hertz. Two subjects
displayed no lock-on over the entire frequency range. While I did not test a sufficient
number of subjects to be statistically significant, I suspect that susceptibility to ELF
entrainment follows the normal (bell-shaped) curve. At this time, I do not have any
hypothesis that would allow us to predict who is susceptible and who is not.

Several interesting observations were readily apparent. Lock-on generally occurred very
rapidly... within a quarter of a second in most cases. If lock-on did not occur at a specific
frequency in the first second, it didn't at all. When the brain did lock on, the amplitude of the
brain waves increased to nearly double their normal size. This is typical for naturally
(non-ELF) produced alpha patterns. The brain locked on to higher frequencies (9-10 Hertz)
more readily, and maintained the lock-on for the entire duration of the transmission. As the
frequency was lowered (below 8.6 Hertz), lock-on for most subjects occurred in bursts,
rather than being continuous. For example, there might be immediate lock-on for two
seconds; then the brain would "fight" the ELF frequency for a quarter of a second, and then
lock-on again for another few seconds, etc.. I use the word "fight" because it looked like the
brain was fighting the ELF to maintain its own frequency. The "fight" was characterized by
low amplitude beta frequencies in the 15-20 Hertz range. These may, of course, have simply
been analytical type thoughts, but they were not observed when the frequency was in the
9-10 Hertz range. This "fight" became more frequent as the frequency was lowered, until no
lock-on was observed at all.

None of the subjects were able to consciously detect the presence of the ELF field. One
female subject was able to detect whenever the field started or ended, but could not
accurately say when if it was on or off at any given time. In other words, she was able to
detect the change in the magnetic field, but not the presence or absence of the magnetic field
itself. She thought she felt it because it aggravated her sinuses. When lock-on occurred, the
brain waves lagged behind the transmitted ELF. This appeared to have been the "reaction
time" of the brain to the ELF waves (approximately 60-80 milliseconds). More accurate
experimentation is needed to explore this relationship.

Subjects verbatim reports were quite revealing. (Keep in mind that none of the subjects
actually said they felt the ELFs.) The most common verbatim reports occurred between 8.6
and 9.6 Hertz. Common statements were subtle "tingling" sensations in the fingers, arms,
legs, teeth, and roof of the mouth. Two subjects reported a "metallic" feeling in their mouth.
One subject reported a "tightness" in the chest and another subject reported a "tightness" in
the stomach. Several subjects also reported sensations when the ELF frequency was
between 6 and 7 Hertz. The verbatim responses in this range were "ringing" in the ears,
"flushed" face, "fatigued", "tightening" in the chest and "increasing" pulse.

Lock-on occurred at lower frequencies more often when the transmitted frequencies were
progressively lowered, rather than randomly presented. It would seem that the brain prefers
a gradual lowering of frequency rather than a sudden or abrupt change in frequency. This
may have been due to the extremely short duration of each transmission (10 seconds). It
may be that this effect would disappear if longer transmission times were used.

There was no significant correlation between subjects reported level of relaxation and the
ELF frequency or the occurrence of lock-on. Again, this may have been due to the
extremely short duration of each transmission.

Summary
It is clear from these experiments that brain waves do in fact lock on to artificially produced
ELFs in the 6 - 10 Hertz range. It is equally clear that the 10 second transmission was not
sufficient to alter subjects moods to any consistent degree.

Additional Observations
Since my original experiment, I have continued to study the interaction of ELF's and brain
waves. These mini-experiments were conducted more informally than my original
experiment and the observations are based on only one or two subjects. They should be
considered only observations until confirmed by additional study.

1. A sine wave produces lock-on more readily than a square wave or a triangle wave. A
sine wave output produces a rotating magnetic field where there is a gradual build up,
collapse and reversal of the field intensity. A square wave output produces a pulsed
alternating magnetic field where the build-up, collapse and reversal of the magnetic field is
more abrupt.

2. The brain is sensitive to a wide range of intensities. I have observed lock-on with power
settings down to one half of a milliwatt.

3. Psychics and "sensitives" are neither more or less prone to lock-on than anyone else. I
have tested two well-known psychics and a Kahuna from Hawaii. While all three subjects
produced more alpha that usual, it was not related to the ELF generator and they did not
show unusual lock-on. It is interesting to note, that the woman who could "feel" when the
field switched off and on (in my first experiment) was one of these psychics.

4. Extended exposure to ELF's does alter moods, but the effect is subtle. I was not able to
duplicate the "dramatic psychoactive" effect that Robert Beck has reported. Low
frequencies (below 8 Hz) seem to produce a general agitation or uneasiness, while higher
frequencies (8.6-10 Hz) produce a general feeling of relaxation. These are not profound
effects like drug induced mood changes. The subject is not aware of any change in his
consciousness or mood. From his perspective, nothing has changed. However, an outside
observer can detect subtle changes (e.g. body movement). I have confirmed this by
monitoring muscle activity with an EMG monitor.

5. I have exposed myself to ELFs for one and two hour durations and have found that the
frequencies from 8.6 to 9.8 Hertz to be sleep inducing; however, it is impossible to eliminate
the placebo effect from experiments I performed on myself.

6. I built and distributed several portable ELF generators for testing. I have received many
reports that indicate that falling asleep with the ELF generator operating is probably not a
good idea. People don't feel rested when they sleep with the ELF generator on. My
personal experience supports this. ELF's may inhibit dreaming which is necessary for normal
brain functioning.

7) I have found three definite beneficial uses for the ELF generator: a) for relaxation, b) to
eliminate jet lag, and c) the elimination of seizures in a dog.

The Story of Maynooth
Shortly after completing my first experiments, my neighbor's dog began to have seizures.
Maynooth was a one year old, 190 pound Irish Wolfhound. His seizures were occurring
four to five times a week. A seizure by a 190 pound dog is not a small affair. He would
trash around wildly with no awareness of his surroundings. The seizures would last 10-30
minutes.
My neighbors took Maynooth to the vet, who prescribed phenobarbital to control the
seizures. The drug was not effective and Maynooth continued to have regular seizures.

After discussing Maynooth's condition with my neighbor, we decided to try a portable ELF
generator that Maynooth could wear to control his seizures. Seizures are accompanied by
wild fluctuations in brain wave activity. We hypothesized that a portable ELF generator
could control the seizures by stabilizing Maynooth's brain waves. If we could get
Maynooth's brain to lock-on to an ELF frequency, we could in effect, eliminate the seizures.

I constructed a portable ELF generator about the size of a pack of cigarettes. The ELF
generator was powered by a nine volt battery and had two frequencies, selectable by a
toggle switch (10.0 Hz and 7.83 Hz). The 10 Hz frequency was chosen because previous
experiments had shown that lock-on was more likely to occur at higher frequencies (i.e.,
closer to the prominent frequency of the brain). The 7.83 Hz frequency was chosen because
it is the resonant frequency of the Earth and naturally occurring low intensity magnetic
radiation can be detected at this frequency (Schumann, 1952).

The schematic for the portable ELF generator is illustrated. It is a twin-T oscillator followed
by a high power 386 amplifier. The twin-T was chosen because of its high stability and low
distortion sign wave. Construction is straight forward and the placement of parts is not
critical. All parts are readily available. The two 10K frequency adjustment pots should be
10-20 turn trim pots to allow precise frequency adjustment. The 10K output level
adjustment pot should be set so that the output feeding the coil is less that 100 milliwatts to
comply with FCC regulations (I set Maynooth's to 10 milliwatts). The coil itself is not critical
and can be wound on any iron core. Use only an alkaline or nickel-cadmium battery.

Maynooth began wearing the generator in the spring of 1988. We tried the 10 Hz frequency
first. The results of the experiment were astounding to say the least. Maynooth's seizures
stopped immediately when he began wearing the generator. Furthermore, Maynooth was
able to completely stop taking the phenobarbital and the seizures have remained in
remission. For the first three months, Maynooth wore the generator all the time in a cloth
pouch from his collar. After that, the generator was only used at night and simply placed
near his sleeping area.

Maynooth has had a total of three seizures following his first use of the generator. Two of
these could be traced to malfunctions with the generator. The first was a broken wire from
the battery connector and the second was a dead battery. The third seizure could not be
explained by a hardware malfunction, although Maynooth was only using the generator
during the night and the seizure occurred during the day. It should be noted, however, that
this seizure was mild in comparison to his prior episodes.

Maynooth's owners were so convinced of the efficacy of the ELF generator, that they asked
me to make a spare generator in case the one they had broke. Maynooth's vet (at the
University of Minnesota) showed curiosity in the generator, but not enough to explore it
further. They preferred to remain with a drug treatment, even though it had proven to be
ineffective. Fortunately, Maynooth's owners had more sense.

Maynooth still uses the ELF generator in his sleeping area at night. The rechargeable battery
is charged during the day so it is fresh each night. (The battery lasts about 6-8 hours at a 10
milliwatt power setting).

Andrija Puharich's Watch
Dr. Andrija Pucharich sells a watch that he claims will work a shield for ambient high
frequency ELF's (40-100 Hz). An important feature of this watch would include shielding
from 60 Hz power lines. I had the opportunity to try one of his watches for a few days. The
owner was quite reluctant to part with it so I had to run all tests over just one weekend.

It is quite easy to monitor ambient 60 Hz radiation being absorbed by your body. Simply
touch the probe of any oscilloscope and you can watch the 60 Hz wave. Your body is
acting as an antenna and the amplitude on the oscilloscope is an indication of the amount of
radiation you're absorbing. I found no difference in the amplitude when I was wearing the
watch or when it was removed by a distance of four miles.

I attempted to determine if there was any measurable magnetic output from the watch. I
used a large roll of magnetic wire as a pickup coil and connected it to the input of an EEG
monitor with five microvolt sensitivity. The EEG voltage was fed directly to the A to D
board of the computer. The equipment was tested for proper functioning by bringing a
magnet in proximity to the pickup coil. A weak magnet moving within six inches of the
pickup coil would drive the EEG monitor into saturation. The watch was placed against the
coil but I could not pick up any magnetic fields from the watch. This surprised me because I
was using very sensitive equipment and the watch had to be producing a magnetic field
because it was using a battery. Anytime there is a current flowing (even the small current
required to power a watch), there is always a magnetic field created. Either the watch was
cancelling it's own magnetic field or my equipment was not sensitive enough to measure it.
(It turned out to be the latter).

The final test was to hook myself up to the EEG monitor while I was wearing the watch. The
output was fed into the computer so that I could do posthoc analysis. I wore the watch for
15 minutes and recorded my brain waves. The incidence of beta and alpha frequencies was
not different from my "usual" brain waves. I could not substantiate Puharich's claim that the
watch would act as a filter with a center frequency of 10 Hz. This particular finding may not
be accurate because my excitement with the experiment may have inhibited the alpha
centering that Puharich refers to.

Since I had told the person I borrowed it from that I'd take good care of the watch, that
precluded the idea of disassembling it. I carried the watch with me in my backpack that
weekend. As luck would have it, the back cover of the watch fell off and I got to examine
the inside.

It is a digital "over-the-counter" type watch. As far as I could tell, the watch was normal in
every way except that there was a square sheet of copper (about 1 cm square), wrapped in
plastic packing tape inside the back cover. The tape was obviously used to insulate the
copper from the electronics of the watch and the back cover.

With the copper removed, my equipment could still not detect the magnetic fluctuations
produced by the watch. If the copper sheet does do anything, my equipment was not
sensitive enough to measure it. This indicates that the amplitude of the magnetic field
produced by the watch was very low, probably around the amplitude of the naturally
occurring magnetic fluctuations of the earth.

I do not know whether Puharich's watch works. It did not reduce the electromagnetic
radiation that my body was absorbing, nor did it alter my brain wave pattern in any way I
could detect. My current understanding of ELF's, electronics and magnetics does not
provide a theoretical foundation for the efficacy of the watch.

Electromagnetic Pollution
When I began my research, I was only interested in the effects of ELF's on brain waves. I
have since come to believe that ELF's are only the tip of the iceberg. Electromagnetic
radiation may be the most harmful pollutant in our society. There is mounting statistical
evidence that cancer and other diseases can be triggered by electromagnetic waves.

ELF pulse-modulated radio waves work at the cellular level. Cancer and birth defects have
been increasing in this country since about 1950 (as television became popular). The
average resonant frequency of the body is around 82 MHz. It is no coincidence that this is
near the middle of the VHF TV band.

Even low intensity 60 Hz fields are capable of causing DNA damage and weakening the
immune system. Cancer cells exposed to 60 Hz electromagnetic fields for 24 hours show a
sixfold increase in their growth rate.

The evidence is becoming overwhelming that cellular functions can be switched on and off
through frequency specific electromagnetic radiation that induces nuclear magnetic
resonance in the cell. We may find that many diseases can be caused or cured by frequency
specific radiation that is ELF pulse modulated.

In our technological society, there are few places to go where you will not be exposed to
electromagnetic radiation. Television, radio and microwave radiation are abundant in all
metropolitan areas. High voltage 60 Hz power lines crisscross the country. Microwaves
(one of the most dangerous) are becoming increasingly common. The FCC has started to
grant licences to use microwaves for cellular phones.

The powers that control the energy and communications industries will stop at no end to
prevent the public from learning the truth. Their financial health depends on it. Since the
military is one of the largest producers of high power electromagnetic radiation, it is not
likely that we can count on government intervention.

We have probably reached a point where the only solution is in the form of a portable shield
device. ELF generators may be one possible solution. My current research is in this area.

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Although a nice article, note he talks about ELF, not sonic energy.


Edd
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if the SASER is what i think you're talking about, it couldn't be used for anything like "destroying a building". the device uses ultrasound as a carrier for auidlbe sound. at the moment it has no ability to carry bass tones, or infrasound. it would however be great for the mentioned stalker application.


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posted November 29, 2000 09:56 PM
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Success!!!
I had my girlfriend come over and i tried out the 33hz tone. I used my computer subwoofer and played the 33hz tone that i made with cool edit 2000. Now she did nto get off, but she definitely said she felt it and it was a major turn on. She also said that it made no difference if she could here the sound or not, it worked either way. I also had success with the 7hz, but i still am not willing to try the 13hz that supposedly makes you shit yourself. Other than 7, 13, and 33, are there any others????


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It seems I hit a Nerve with this. Using what function do you set the fequencey of the tone?


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hmm....my school's com system is accessible through the phones in every classroom. take my rio...put 33hz on it...broadcast throughout school. i'm sure this would bring me much entertainment.

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Curious George
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to make a tone with cool edit, you make a new file. click on generate, click on tone. Set the tone to 33 or 7 or 13 or whatever, then set your time in the bottom, and click generate. Then save it as an mp3 or wav. It's pretty easy.


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you say it worked on your girlfriend? i asked a friend of mine to give it a go and she just said "you made my bum vibrate. well done." what power is your subwoofer? plus i'm assuming it's active?


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A school comms system will not go down to 33Hz I guarantee you. You need a good quality woofer to get down below 40Hz. If you can find a speaker with a resonant frequency of 33Hz, you've hit the jackpot.
As for 7Hz, I've never seen a speaker that will go that low, and I'de be suspicious of any sub-woofer whose makers claimed it would go below about 20Hz unless it was very expensive.

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If I can, I will drive arround town with this shit on (the 33hz). Or mabye the 13, with a buttplug, of course. My first target will be the cop shop, then the school, then the military base (my school), and last the houses in my town. I really hope this will work for me (im not exactly a genius with electronics or computers, but I can use them)!


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ok i got a question i got this magazine in the mail and it had someting in it called the mind mollestor it was a small thing no speaker and it had a loop on it and it would emit a few second sound every so often i forgot how often and i lost the mag so i dont got nemore info on it but it said it was a high pitch sound that would make the people go nuts tryin to find it does neone know how to make this one?


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posted December 01, 2000 06:04 PM
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Here's a URL for a site that explains the concepts behind the SASER. It's in french so use babelfish or other web translator to get the quist of it. If you don't what what babelfish is look at the bottom of this post.
<a href="http://www.physique.usherb.ca/attracte/09-2000/saser.htm" target="_blank">http://www.physique.usherb.ca/attracte/09-2000/saser.htm</a>
While a SASER is currently limited to ultrasound, it won't always be. Just as lasers started out in the microwave range they've now been expanded into almost all wavelengths just as SASERs will eventually.

Hell, even an ultrasonic SASER would be useful for projecting painful beams of ultrasound making a victim deathly ill.

Maybe on day they'll come up with a real life sonic screwdriver (Dr. Who). Sci-Fi I know but one can always hope.

Am I the only one here who, seeing mention of something interesting, bothers to look for it using search engines? They're out there for a reason you know, use them.

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blade
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posted December 02, 2000 03:50 AM
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has any of you got a working crack? i cant find a single one that works!

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check these out <a href="http://www.spy-store.com/SonicNausea1.html" target="_blank">http://www.spy-store.com/SonicNausea1.html</a>
very useful for getting back at people


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could you please post the url for the schematic of the portable ELF generator?
Thanks


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Blade, go to: <a href="http://us.astalavista.box.sk/" target="_blank">http://us.astalavista.box.sk/</a>
You should find at least one working crack there.

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Being the average amerian highschool student that I am. I have no clue about wave leangth. Thats what all that Hz stuff is refering to right? What do the numbers mean?
Madoc what kind of guitar do you have? A 100 watt amp is not that powerful. Even with the overdrive on. And what do you mean by E guitar? are you refering to the E string and if so which one?


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Hz is short for Hertz, the unit of frequency. one Hertz means one wave per second.
Wavelength is related to the frequency by the equation speed = frequency * wavelength. So the wavelength of a 33Hz soundwave (speed = about 340 metres per second) is the speed/frequency = 340/33 = 10.3 metres.
The wavelength of a 33Hz radio wave would be 299 700 000/33 = about 9 081 818 metres. I can't think offhand what sort of frequencies ELF radio are, but I think they are a lot greater than tens of Hz.
Aha - about 10kHz down to about 300Hz. So wavlengths of between about 30 kilometres and 1000 kilometres.
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you dont happen to hold an ametuer radio operators liscence do you jhonbus?


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Have any of you thought about directing your speakers into a parabolic reflector, you may even get away with an old satellite dish.
This would concentrate and direct your sounds.

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I tried a 7hz frequency, and 3 sec. later i fell out of my chair. I tried it on my dad, and it worked.
I have regular Dell harman/kardon speakers connected to headphones. Maybe the headphones create more vibrations inside the ear canal, making them more effective.
With my setup, my throat went dry and my stomach and back started aching. I felt ready to puke. Dad didnt know what I did, so it couldnt have been imagination (you know, like placebo pills in medical tests)

smokey
March 8th, 2003, 03:59 PM
if you want a good tone generator to make sound at almost any frequency got to <a href="http://www.nch.com.au" target="_blank">www.nch.com.au</a> this bit of software turns your pc into a scientific instrument (well....) any how it will give all of you experimenters an interesting tool the audio masking system and the tone generator are free progs' :-) have fun

<small>[ March 08, 2003, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: smokey ]</small>

Zach
March 8th, 2003, 10:52 PM
for clarification, go to the main page, click on the first link and find "tone generator" it took me a while to find it, maybe I'm just dumb.

TheBear
March 11th, 2003, 02:02 PM
I've been trying these low frequenses (sp?) (7,16,17,27) using regular headphones of pretty good quality, I wouldn't call it success since I think I might have been imagining that I felt a bit sick. I'll see if I can get my hands on a electric bass amplifier perhaps even trying the 33Hz tone on some girl but I seriously doubt it will work. Have anybody seen any references claiming that the 33Hz tone has these special effects on female people :D , If so please provide me with a link or quote.

zeocrash
March 11th, 2003, 04:39 PM
hehe i dont need no 33hz tone to give a girl pleasure. i tried the 13 hz on myself, and the effects were not really noticable. i'll have to try the freqs through my bass amp on people who dont know what they do
btw, does anyone know whether it is the sound card or the speakers that effect the minimum frequency produced by your pc

xyz
March 12th, 2003, 05:47 AM
The speakers definitely affect it but I'm not sure about the sound card.

Anthony
March 12th, 2003, 08:58 PM
The soundcard *should* be capable of generating the frequency, but the really killjoy is finding an amplifier/speakers that will respond to such an unusually low frequency.

photonic
March 12th, 2003, 11:19 PM
I tried the 7, 10, 13, and 33 hz tones generated by Cool Edit on me and my girlfriend. Nothing happened. I also tried it on my computer speakers(Altec Lansing) and my car's system(Infinity Kappa Perfects 12"). The tones are really annoying however. All of the tones except the 7hz were audible iirc. Any ideas on how low the car sub should be able to go? When I played the 7 and 10 hz tones there was a lot of crackling/breaks. Almost like when there's interference on the radio. I would have been fairly interested if the 33hz tone had worked. You could put it on your stereo and bring girls around then all the sudden you're an instant ladies man. :D Theoretically...

Edit:
I checked the Frequency Response on the subwoofer. It is 18-150hz +-3 db. I guess that explains the poor quality of the sub-18 hz tones. Another note, the exposure times to all the sounds was 30-60 seconds.

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Flake2m
March 13th, 2003, 09:16 AM
If 33hz really does make a girl have certian uummmm "urges" then I think I might have increased my chance of getting lucky at the after's party on prom night <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . Provided I can play the sound at the after's.

The real question in this research is; how do we implement this technology?
If we wanted to use 33hz tone to increase our "chances" we would need some decent speakers and a sound editing progam. The tricky part is playing the sound at the right time. If you managed to play it at a party and combine it with plenty of alcohol and some smooth talking and you have got a garrenteed good time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ...

zeocrash
March 13th, 2003, 02:10 PM
it may just be me but some people might comaplin if you took off their droning hip hop music and replaced it with a droning 33hz tone
on a more serious note, i'm going ff to try this on my bass amp now and i will post results later

simply RED
March 13th, 2003, 07:25 PM
If you succeed controling a woman, it will be the greatest "invention" in history :) .

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Ezekiel Kane
March 13th, 2003, 11:30 PM
I just tested the 13 Hz and 33 Hz frequenices on a friend of mine who knew nothing about it. (female, obviously) The 13 Hz sound had no effect whatsoever, and the 33 Hz sound was 'relaxing' at the volume at which it was played. She describes it as 'relaxing as a vibrating chair on a low setting.' *shrug* Sounds exploitable.

Flake2m
March 14th, 2003, 07:46 AM
today the female tomorrow the world
Mwhahahahaha.

The idea was to put the 33hz tone into an "edited" song or to play it on a seperate speaker. That way the 33hz tone should still have the desired effect but more subtle.

Ghostcustom 24
March 15th, 2003, 04:09 PM
It is completely possible to impliment a such a tone into a comon song. Hip Hop would would be a preferable choice since it would have to go with the rythem (i.e. it will not be on constantly, but on.off.on.off. ect.) [or does it???]
I suggest downloading the Cool Edit program (mentioned earlier) and uploading a popular song and integrating the tones with the beat. Then burn it to a CD and have the DJ play it. (usually this is no problem)
Also with the volume up as high as it is at dances you should receive some *interesting* results (and I would bet that most of the equipment used by DJ's these days can handle such a low tone).
I am currently attempting to edit one song. When I am finished I will publish a link here for you guys to get it.

Anthony
March 15th, 2003, 07:58 PM
If you guys are relying on a magical audio tone to please the ladies, then you need more help than I do! :D

Ghostcustom 24
March 16th, 2003, 03:29 PM
Hey I just do this for kicks. :p Others here sound pretty desperate... :D

Fukineh
March 16th, 2003, 07:03 PM
Does anyone here know of the Brown Noise? Apparently if you find a certain frequency (and I think it’s different for each individual), you can make someone shit their pants. Now would that not give you the image of someone who is all powerful and is not to be fucked with?

Anthony
March 16th, 2003, 10:39 PM
Considering it was the subject of an episode of Southpark, I think everyone's heard of it :)

Whether it's more than an urban legend, I have no idea. Causing the rectum to resonate might liquify its contents and relax muscle control though...

Fukineh
March 17th, 2003, 03:59 AM
I had a music teacher in junior high who claimed that one of his university Profs managed to inflict the brown noise successfully on his boss by using a huge audio set up. Then again, I have no proof of this, so I can't be sure that he was telling the truth.

Ghostcustom 24
March 18th, 2003, 12:10 AM
Fukineh,
Brown noise can be generated [here we go again...] with the Cool Edit 2000 program mentioned earlier and it is not the brown noise that causes people to shit their pants it is a particular frequency. (It is on this page somewhere) Also brown noise really isn't as effective as white noise or pink noise because it is too similar to the background noise that you hear every day, where as pink noise (the most annoying) is not. Still these three types of noise are not as bad as some of the stuff you can generate with a good tone generator (get the program and play with it).

<small>[ March 21, 2003, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: Ghostcustom 24 ]</small>

Ezekiel Kane
March 18th, 2003, 03:28 PM
I was under the impression that the brown noise was a simple 13 Hz sinusoid wave, not chaotic like the white noise (with amplitude 1 for frequency x) or the pink noise (with amplitude 1/x for frequency x). Can anyone clear this up?

Ghostcustom 24
March 18th, 2003, 08:00 PM
It is not clear to me either what the technical aspects of "Brown Noise" are.
Though I can tell you from listening to it that is like talking on the phone through a bad connection, you have that background noise, or brown noise present.
As for interrogation methods or for similar purposes I see no use for it, as it is not nearly as effective as other tones or "noise" that you can generate.

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