Got 5m crater?

[spydamonkee]

look what i 'found'
video screens of the detonation of 10kg CANFO

since pictures speak 1000 words...
<img src="http://www.boomspeed.com/spydamonkee/ANFO-10kg-Beach-007.jpg" alt=" - " />

I 'think' the blaster used 9.3kg finely blended CAN soaked for 5 hours in 700 grams desiel, booster was 1kg APAN with 1g AP detonater, charge was buried 1.5 meters deep and set off electrically 60m away by the rather nervous <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> blaster who was lying down in a trench dug into the sand.

On detonationg he got covered in shit...

the BOOM was very loud and crater produced was 5m across and 2m deep as it hit rock so couldnt go much further, shockwave was the most awesome thing this blaster had ever felt.... or so im 'told' :D
<img src="http://www.boomspeed.com/spydamonkee/ANFO-10kg-Beach-098.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.boomspeed.com/spydamonkee/ANFO-10kg-Beach-099.jpg" alt=" - " />

fire away with the questions im sure you guys have some, i for one wanna know who this 'blaster' is hehehhehehe :D

LQ2 (2.88MB) & HQ (13MB) Video <a href="ftp://ewf:sd332gf@209.195.155.80/Hosted%20Images/spyDAmonkee/" target="_blank">here</a>
Note: Videos still have no sound :(

Edit: Attached Pictures & video link :p

<small>[ January 10, 2003, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: spydamonkee ]</small>

[Keyser Soze]

Hmmm the pics aren't showing up for me... but it sounds like this "blaster" had a lot of fun while doing this. Your lucky you have a place you can detonate kilos of explosives. I mean the "blaster" is lucky...

[Rat Bastard]

HOLY FUCK! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Those images remind me of "Shot Baker" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[Keyser Soze]

Ok, I got them to work and i agree with Rat Bastard... HOLY FUCK!!! Did you get a video or a sound clip of that? And did it alert anyone?

EDIT: Ah, I see that they are screen shots. Anyway you can upload them?

<small>[ December 28, 2002, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: Keyser Soze ]</small>

[MrSamosa]

Looks like the operator got pelted with a bit of sand there... Did he hurt himself at all? What kind of hearing protection did he take?

Great pictures though, that is an absolutely amazing explosion. Some day "a friend of mine" will be able to do that, although definately not on that scale.

I'm going to agree with Rat Bastard <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

[spydamonkee]

I could get hold of the video for y'all but bloody xp dont capture the sound so gotta get all that stuff working as there are alot more of this 'blasters' stuf u will wanna see :D

the charge was done in sand as their is less heavy debree to get hurled about and also it looks impressive for the camera, no one was hurt and has ever been hurt when observing blasstings done by m...'the blaster', and hearign protection is never worn as most charges are buried so the sound is dampened, but i think when the 'blaster' does the 15kg CANFO charge under an old car there will most likly be hearing protection worn as a surface charge that big (or bigger :p ) is going to be...well yea awesome!!, oh look forward too seing 10kg or more going off underwater soon too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

on a sidenote has anyone been able to get capture cards to work with xp?
i have tried it on xp home and pro and it didnt work on either yet it works perfect on 98se :mad:

<small>[ December 28, 2002, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: spydamonkee ]</small>

[kingspaz]

i agree with all said so far - HOLY FUCK!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
i can see why you talk of the 'blaster' but we all know the tructh and so does anybody else reading so enough of this fakeness. well done though. that is a fucking huge explosion!
about the video, personly i think the sound would be a good thing to have but when it comes to an explosion of this magnitude it doesn't matter *that* much as any footage would be great. you could always take it to a friends computer with 98 on it and do it like that.

[ShockWave]

Spydamonkee, You sick mtf !! :D

That's a really nice explosion, great work !

I have done many test with the Canfo, Also some 10Kg charges but I thought some of mine were a full detonation but now I know it was not 100% detonation since yours is much worse.

I found out when using NM as a "FO" it works even better, ANNM is 5:1. but i use for my CANFO(NM) just the 5% and it works really great, so if their are more people here that wants to set off Canfo and have plenty of NM and want to be sure of of a full detonation, then use the NM.

Or maybe Spydamonkee's Booster of 1Kg APAN is better then my 500Gr ANNM.

[kingspaz]

i think a big ass booster helps ALOT. if you have a big enough booster even if the main charge is not capable of sustaining its own detonation the booster will ensure it all goes off. if the booster isn't large enough then it will not detonate all the main charge if its not capable of sustaining its own detonation. so a massively over sized booster will prevent partial detonation.

[zaibatsu]

Kingspaz, whoever it is that most people assume did the blasting it is always best to never admit to anything. Its a good idea to give people no more help than is necessary.

But, that blast is very impressive, well done whoever you are...

[EventHorizon]

VERY SWEET! :D

I'm also having bad luck with captures, at least long captures. Using my Radeon 8500DV I can only seem to capture short clips at 720X480 AVI. Mostly I'm having audio problems so mine might be my sound card.

Looking forward to the videos of the car and water tests too. BTW, if you're going to do a 15 kg charge, why the hell not do a full 22kg bag of AN. :D

[zeocrash]

fucking hell man that was fucking sweet. i wish my local blaster man had a decent testing range like that, but unfortunatly the only decent open space nearby is on top of a hill and can be seen by almost every place in the district. ah well
just a quick question whats the diference between AP and CAP if there is one?

[Keyser Soze]

zeocrash, do you mean whats the difference between AN and CAN? Beacuse i think that CAN is Coated-AN and AN is just the normal prills.

[Mr Cool]

I think CAN is the mixture of ammonium nitrate and calcium carbonate commonly known as "Nitrate Chalk" (in England), but I'm not sure.

Very nice blast! I'm envious of them, I have no-where to do things that big!

Edit: or it could mean coated <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .

<small>[ December 29, 2002, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Mr Cool ]</small>

[nbk2000]

Perhaps he means CaN, as in Calcium Nitrate?

[Haggis]

I think <a href="ftp://ewf:sd332gf@209.195.155.80/Hosted%20Images/spyDAmonkee/ANFO%2010kg%20-%20Beach/" target="_blank">this</a> should work for the people who cannot access the link he gave to the 'full set of screens'. Very nice pictures though. I am envious of this guy's great blasting zone.

<small>[ December 29, 2002, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Haggis ]</small>

[PyroTech]

CAN as Shockwave means it, it's Chalk Ammonium Nitrate, a mix of Chalk and Ammonium Nitrate. It contains about 80% AN so is useble for blasting.

PT

[Helos]

Maybee "the blaster" knows more of what exactly he used and exactly how much AN the fertilizer contained and if the prills was crushed up or pulverized in anyway.

[Nika452]

I was able to make a bit of a slideshow from the stills. It's choppy, but for absence of the original movie it looks pretty cool.
Unfortunatly, it's about 42 MB as an AVI, and I was unable to convert it to a GIF. I can't post it anywhere.
Just an idea for others though. I used pictures 3-60.

[Maniak]

I looked picture....it's great effect! in september I fired 500g of AN/Al (detonate from 1g RDX detonator) in 0,8m hole to field...... crater was 1,5m across and 1m deep. it was nice, but I hadn't camera:( In spring I will try 1kg charge 1 meter under ground;)

[Ctrl_C]

@Spyda: you need to change the link for the rest of the pics to:

<a href="ftp://ewf:sd332gf@209.195.155.80/Hosted%20Images/spyDAmonkee/ANFO%2010kg%20-%20Beach/" target="_blank">ftp://ewf:sd332gf@209.195.155.80/Hosted%20Images/spyDAmonkee/ANFO%2010kg%20-%20Beach/</a>

instead of

<a href="ftp://209.195.155.80/Hosted%20Images/spyDAmonkee/ANFO%2010kg%20-%20Beach/" target="_blank">ftp://209.195.155.80/Hosted%20Images/spyDAmonkee/ANFO%2010kg%20-%20Beach/</a>

[NERV]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT !!!!!!!! That is fucking awsome!!!!! I wish there was a place around this hell hole that I live in where I could set off something that big. To bad my town has so many damn people :( . Anyway tell the blaster to keep up the good work. I cant wait for his 15kg CANFO charge.

[spydamonkee]

the link should all work sweet now, cheers kingspaz 4 fixen it n ctrl_c for pointing it out my bad.

My first post says how i prepared the charge, Calcium Ammonium Nitrate was used it goes by the name of Hydro CAN or just CAN. Limestone or chalk is the coating on the prills giving them an off-white or brownish colour, the Calcium content can range anywhere between 20 - 40% meaning the 10kg charge was really only about 6 - 8kg of AN <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> , still quite impressive i might say.

this no where near comes close to the magnitude of kinepaks blast his being more than twice the size of mine and using pure AN.
IMHO to see the full power of that blast he should have buried the charge 2m down or so that way the amount of earth that it would have movied would show just how powerfull a earht mover this stuff is, i would say he could have got about a 8m crater!!!

video is now uploaded click my sig for the link the i stuffed up trying to upload em so there is quite a few files of mine i want to delete from that FTP but cant, ANFO 10kg - Beach (HQ) & (LQ2) are the two files, 13mb & 2.88MB

have fun.

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try and use proper english please :) - kingspaz

<small>[ December 30, 2002, 06:42 PM: Message edited by: kingspaz ]</small>

[Rat Bastard]

Damn, it's so much cooler in motion! Too bad XP is fucking with you. Damn microsoft :mad: Did you all notice the left side of the hill crumbiling from the initial shock? That's crazy powerful!

I too, envy that sweet location, it's too damn populated where I live.

<small>[ December 29, 2002, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: Rat Bastard ]</small>

[Mick]

spydamonkey, what sort of capture card do you have?

with XP, can you capture video and no sound? or can't you capture anything?
what program are you using to capture the movie with?

maybe this is a dumb idea,
but i would assume the "audio out" from your video camera plugs into the "line in" on your sound card, do you have "line in" muted in audio properties?
(when i last reformated, it took me a week to figure this out....one of those "duh" type moments:) )

[nbk2000]

XP is a piece of shit sorry excuse for an O/S! :mad:

It's designed to keep the user, who Microshit assumes to be a clueless fucking moron, from being able to do anything other than check their Hotmail, watch secured content provided by Microshits affiliated content providers, and websurf using MSN. All while keeping evil software pirates at bay for the childrens sake. :p

Now, if you want to be able to actually GET anything done, then 98 is the O/S you'll want to use. Virtually all PC software is available for use with 98, whereas XP is a royal pain in the ass to try finding anything to use with it.

[Fl4PP4W0k]

Negatory on that. 98 licks penisies

win2k is the shit... soooo much better. WINXP without the 'spyware' if you could call it that. Win98 is dated MSDOS innefiecient BS.
2K is THE shit.

umm. im wasted and litsening to pink floyd.
bye bye

[spydamonkee]

yes its true 98 does suc...however 98SE is about the best overall OS i have come across.
WINME is total crap.

They ARE rated in this order :p
WIN98 - Second Edition
WIN2K
WINXP - Professional Edition
Rest dont even deserve a mention IMHO

I think i have the problem sorted it was a number of things... im off to buy me a better VCR anyways.

[kingspaz]

check where i edited you previous post to this :cool:

<small>[ December 30, 2002, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: kingspaz ]</small>

[EP]

Nice! :)

[Aaron-V2.0]

Nice indeed, I think beaches are one of the best locations for blasters to be. :)

[firebreether]

Linux has got to be the best operating system ever, no microshit junk could touch it in terms of control. Only problem is finding all the same software for it, which you can't quite, but you can get by just fine.

And, back on topic, yes, truly nice :D

<small>[ December 30, 2002, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: firebreether ]</small>

[nbk2000]

I was assuming SE of 98.

Anyways, did you fill up the hole before leaving? Or did you leave a big crater in the beach to draw attention from the next person to come by?

In the future, if possible, you should explode your charges in the beach below the high tide line. Then, when the tide comes in, it'll wash away all evidence. :D

[spydamonkee]

yea i wish i had dug the charge down below the tideline abit more, the tide should still cover it hopefully, i might go check it out sometime.

I doubt anyone would have found it though as its a long walk to get there.

Edited my first post to include picture, also i will be doing 16kg CANFO (mayb more <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ) under my old car so look out for that one on video in the next few days

[PyroTech]

That would be a pretty nice power test, See how the 16 KG "plays" with the car.
Keep up the good work spydamonkee

[Anthony]

Truly excellent :D

I wonder how the charge would compare if in regular soil? I'm sure it wouldn't have been so dramatic, but still...

You going to be able to get the car out there ok after that prick slashed the tyres?

EDIT: just re-read your first post, and it says that you were in a trench 60m away. Since the base of that column of sand looks to be at least 20m wide... what were the blast effects on you like?

Your post actually partly inspired me to try a buried charge today - usually I do all dets above ground because I like the noise. 1lb of ANNM buried just 10" down (limited by fuse length :rolleyes: ) in damn sticky clay. I wasn't expecting much in such a shallow hole and in such resistant "soil", but got a 4ft x 3ft hole and the shit flying everywhere was cool :D I'm converted to buried charges! :)

BTW, it shouldn't make any difference, but just for reference, was the diesel you used normal or red (taxe free)?

<small>[ January 10, 2003, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: Anthony ]</small>

[spydamonkee]

Yea Anthony if buried in soil the same depth it it probably would have had a smaller crater but the shit flying everywhere is always impressive, However if buried another meter down or so in soil you should really start to see the earth movin n shakin effect of ANFO/CANFO as the extra pressure it builds up has to get out someway n it cerrtainly aint going down <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
Desiel used was yellow smelly stuff from the gas station

As for the shockwave it wasnt as big as i was expecting it to be mostly because the sand must dampen the shockwave fairly well unlike dirt or water, with charges under water you'll find that the shockwave travels a long way due to the water not compressing very well, similer thing with dirt.
If you look @ the video or the screenshots carefully you will see sand "jumping" off the beach as the shokwave progresses away from the blast, you gotta be quick as its only visable if about 4 or 5 frames, you can see it in the picture in my 1st post.

And yes we got some spare wheels fitted on the car so its all ready to 'roll' for today :D

[kingspaz]

thats a great video by the way. worth the download even on 56k!

[knowledgehungry]

How far away was the explosion filmed from? I couldnt really tell from the picture. Thanks.
Very nice.

[Haggis]

He said in his original post that it was filmed from 60m away.

[Rat Bastard]

You should tell your "blaster" to get a second camera angle shot for the next big blast. Now that would be awesome! Anyways, still having trouble with the sound on the movie file?

[xyz]

How about adding some plastic bags of petrol or an LPG tank to the car for that nice fireball? This would have to be done somewhere where it couldn't start a fire as some friends (also pyros) and I almost started a bush fire :p when we set off a fireball device made from 4 small butane tanks, a CO2 cannister filled with AP, and some KNO3/Sugar to ignite the gas cloud.

[Energy84]

No! Leave it be. I'd rather just see rock and dirt flying (scrap metal is good too!). If you want to see big fireballs just go rent a movie.
Big fireballs can be dangerous though because of the heatwave given off. I saw a pyrotechnics display a few years back where they made this huge "wall of fire". There was a line up of 50ft fireballs about 150yards long. Even from my vantage point, which was about 150 yards away, there was a fairly intense heatwave.

[THErAPIST]

What kind of terrain will the car be detonated on? Beach like the 10kg, grass like the couple of vids of yours that I have seen, or are you going to find a dry dirt like area with small bushes around? also do you plan on putting the charge in the car or under it?

[A-BOMB]

A car you say this reminds me of our old 'friend' victims PE-4 and a car thread :D , though very nice detonation.

[knowledgehungry]

A member named spydamonkee did some 10 kg charges. He was talking about doing larger ones but I don't think he ever posted any thing on them.

The thread with the video is http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/high-explosives/206-got-5m-crater.html

Pretty cool stuff.

[xyz]

Hmm, I assume you meant to post that in another thread?

If you didn't, that was rather silly...

[knowledgehungry]

:o Whoops. So I did. My apologies.

[nbk2000]

I was wondering why he was posting in a 3 year old thread. :p

[Chris The Great]

I thought something was up when it linked to a thread... that it was posted in. :D

Does anyone have a copy of the video? I'd love to see it, but the links point to a host which doesn't seem to exist.

[nitriees]

I still keep the video in my PC, it's 13MB, where should I put it to for you to see?

[nbk2000]

http://rapidshare.de

[Skean Dhu]

Is THErAPIST's Dreams on the FTP ? as that has a couple clips from this thread and of course many others. It's a great watch.

[Chris The Great]

Rapidshare would be great :D

I've seen the Dreams video, it's a great compilation, however the video is quite low quality IMO compared to some of the originals like this one.

[nitriees]

http://rapidshare.de/files/22497917/ANFO_10k_-_Beach1.mpg.html

Uploaded to above link.

[pdb]

If you like craters, here is another one. It' a 20-year old blast, so no video !
20Kg of NaClO3+C6H5NO2 with a PETN booster.

(I didn't blur the guy's face on the 3rd pix, as he doesn't belong any longer to the world of the livings... :()

[Chris The Great]

Can't wait for the attachments to be approved :)

Thanks a lot nitriees for uploading the video!

[Viper III]

why i can not see the pics ?

[inventorgp]

Has anyone else experimented with large charges?
Pics and Vids would be great!

I love to analyse videos of the effects of explosions:D

I personally haven't tried more than a few grams - location.

[Viper III]

i think for 20kg explosive is this a very small crater ....

[inventorgp]

Viper III did you take into consideration that the
ground could of been rock hard, clay, it didn't detonate
fully and/or it was doomed to be crap.

Yes I know what you mean Viper:)

pdb what was the ground quality like and how far
down was it berried?

[Viper III]

At first:

You see how far it was digged in,

2) Its a normal field !!,,..look---There is normal earth !!

[inventorgp]

Sorry Viper, I just realized that the pics are linked:rolleyes:

Well then it was doomed to be crap. Or a bad synth?

pdb are you sure it's exactly 20kg.

As I said before I don't do more than a few grams.

If I'm wrong can someone correct me on sizes of craters’.:)

[Chopper]

Something that comes to mind is the reasonably thin column of exp used, combined with what appears to be a placement of at max, 2 inches below the surface.

I have seen charges of 10gms AN mixed with 4gms of 50:50 smokeless powder/acetone detonated around 40cm below the surface in damp earth.

The 25cm*25cm square hole was for the most-part evacuated of dirt and the railway-sleeper situated 30cm from epicenter was seen to bend and crack.:eek:

There is an image (in I think "exerpts of shaped charges.pdf") in which a shaped charge is first used to bore a hole. Into this hole is poured several kilos of a commercial explosive. (military issue only ?) After detonation, the crater is observed to be several times the diameter of that shown in the field. The depth is estimated from memory, to be 1.5 times that shown.

Don't forget, that whilst not the friendliest stuff around, sodium chlorate is far from being the nastiest stuff one will encounter. - Think of all the metal oxide formed for one, notice also what appears to be a rather copious quantity of black smoke.

[EDIT: Yep, the images I speak of are to be found on pg 369 and 370 of "Exerpts from Fundamentals of Shaped Charges.pdf", the 10 bottles used to package the explosive TRIGAN are somewhat larget than I had recalled, and may be closer to 4L each rather than the 2L I had recalled. They appear to be about the same size as a 2kg smokeless powder can]

[inventorgp]

Bent the rail from under 40cm of dirt:eek:
Train track are pretty thick and robust

Do you have any pics Chopper?

[Chopper]

@Inventorgp - sorry bud, you've missinterperated what I said. It was just the wooden part that supports the tracks, known as railway sleepers at garden stores.

I'm affraid not, it seemed rather boring compared to what else I had on the SD card at the time, so was deleted to make way for some underwater shots. I have since disposed of the sleeper as it was old, admittedly rotting a bit and well, it was busted.

[corrosive]

Wow that has to be one of the sexiest explosions ever, it was quick and had a huge amount of power, I'd bet that charge would dismantle a tank from further services if it was configured like a mine. Definetly a nice crater aswell.

Btw , I liked when you paned the camera up , to see the sand fall...haha.!