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Dhzugasvili
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posted 05-22-2001 06:17 PM
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I tried mixing 36% formaldehyde, 200ml with 100ml 25% ammonia water. Left solution to sit, It got hot, but no crystals precipitated and still have not precipitated after weeks its been out there. the recipe said to "let the solution evaporate" If anyone has been able to make hexamine, *PLEASE* tell me how!!
CodeMason
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posted 05-22-2001 07:03 PM
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1. There are probably impurities in either the ammonia or formaldehyde, when concentrations like that are mixed, it does more than get hot, it make sparks and clouds of smoke! Unless you added them SLOWLY, of course.
2. All the liquid needs to evaporate.
Zero
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posted 05-22-2001 09:05 PM
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And shoot me if this sounds stupid, but...
Can't you just buy the stuff? I think Cheaperthandirt.com has it.
~Zero the Inestimable
Agent Blak
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posted 05-22-2001 09:31 PM
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I salt shaker of tablets is like $5-$7CND doesn't sound very cheap to me. If you have access to a chemical supplier(Fire Fox, Pyrotek.org, etc.) I don't think it is that expensive. but to buy it as fuel tablets itis not cheap.
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Jumala
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posted 05-22-2001 10:52 PM
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Here in germany you get hexamine in white cubes under the trade brand "Esbit".
This is also expensive.
But Omikron sells it in plastic bags 500g for 3$.
Mr Cool
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posted 05-23-2001 11:48 AM
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I get about 150g for £3 as fuel tablets, which isn't very expensive. I prefer buying it because it's pure and takes no time or effort.
Dhzugasvili
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posted 05-25-2001 09:15 PM
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People, thanx for the info, but I haven't tried obtaining it (probably should according to your replies), and as I wright this response excuse the inaccuracies because i am drunk, but tell me, CODEMASON < HAVE YOU EVER TRIED MAKING THIS SHIT?? If so, what formula did you use?
I have some dirt cheap fuel tablets, they are KOrean, they say, "non-toxic, use for heating toys, etc." tell me, how can I tell if this is hexamine?? I guess It would be toxic if it is hexamine, or am I wrong?
CodeMason
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posted 05-26-2001 12:20 AM
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Yeah, I made it, I used household ammonia (5%) and Formalin (37% formaldehyde). I used around 25ml formaline and 200ml ammonia, and let it sit in the sun for a while. As the liquid evaporated, the inside of the bowl that was dry had a thin coating of white crystals that looked like salt. Finally, after about 2 days, it had all evaporated. The crystals formed a hard cake on the bottom. I oxidized it and it made HMTD, so I knew it was proper hexamine.
Lem
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From: Austin, Tx
Registered: MAY 2001
posted 05-26-2001 01:01 AM
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well, check out:
http://rhodium.lycaeum.org/chemistry/eleusis/zwit.menh2.html
it is a paper about making methylamine, but it goes through hexamine to get there. it has some good stuff about possible problems and stuff. (NO kewl spelling [stuph] NBK2000)
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posted 05-22-2001 06:17 PM
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I tried mixing 36% formaldehyde, 200ml with 100ml 25% ammonia water. Left solution to sit, It got hot, but no crystals precipitated and still have not precipitated after weeks its been out there. the recipe said to "let the solution evaporate" If anyone has been able to make hexamine, *PLEASE* tell me how!!
CodeMason
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Posts: 383
From: Your Nightmares
Registered: NOV 2000
posted 05-22-2001 07:03 PM
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1. There are probably impurities in either the ammonia or formaldehyde, when concentrations like that are mixed, it does more than get hot, it make sparks and clouds of smoke! Unless you added them SLOWLY, of course.
2. All the liquid needs to evaporate.
Zero
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Posts: 93
From: ...
Registered: DEC 2000
posted 05-22-2001 09:05 PM
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And shoot me if this sounds stupid, but...
Can't you just buy the stuff? I think Cheaperthandirt.com has it.
~Zero the Inestimable
Agent Blak
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Posts: 766
From: Sk. Canada
Registered: SEP 2000
posted 05-22-2001 09:31 PM
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I salt shaker of tablets is like $5-$7CND doesn't sound very cheap to me. If you have access to a chemical supplier(Fire Fox, Pyrotek.org, etc.) I don't think it is that expensive. but to buy it as fuel tablets itis not cheap.
------------------
A wise man once said:
"...There Will Be No
Stand Off At High Noon
... Shoot'em In The Back
And, Shoot'em In The Dark"
Agent Blak-------OUT!!
Jumala
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Posts: 200
From: Germany
Registered: OCT 2000
posted 05-22-2001 10:52 PM
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Here in germany you get hexamine in white cubes under the trade brand "Esbit".
This is also expensive.
But Omikron sells it in plastic bags 500g for 3$.
Mr Cool
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Posts: 991
From: None of your bloody business!
Registered: DEC 2000
posted 05-23-2001 11:48 AM
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I get about 150g for £3 as fuel tablets, which isn't very expensive. I prefer buying it because it's pure and takes no time or effort.
Dhzugasvili
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Posts: 64
From:
Registered: APR 2001
posted 05-25-2001 09:15 PM
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People, thanx for the info, but I haven't tried obtaining it (probably should according to your replies), and as I wright this response excuse the inaccuracies because i am drunk, but tell me, CODEMASON < HAVE YOU EVER TRIED MAKING THIS SHIT?? If so, what formula did you use?
I have some dirt cheap fuel tablets, they are KOrean, they say, "non-toxic, use for heating toys, etc." tell me, how can I tell if this is hexamine?? I guess It would be toxic if it is hexamine, or am I wrong?
CodeMason
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Posts: 383
From: Your Nightmares
Registered: NOV 2000
posted 05-26-2001 12:20 AM
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Yeah, I made it, I used household ammonia (5%) and Formalin (37% formaldehyde). I used around 25ml formaline and 200ml ammonia, and let it sit in the sun for a while. As the liquid evaporated, the inside of the bowl that was dry had a thin coating of white crystals that looked like salt. Finally, after about 2 days, it had all evaporated. The crystals formed a hard cake on the bottom. I oxidized it and it made HMTD, so I knew it was proper hexamine.
Lem
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Posts: 3
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: MAY 2001
posted 05-26-2001 01:01 AM
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well, check out:
http://rhodium.lycaeum.org/chemistry/eleusis/zwit.menh2.html
it is a paper about making methylamine, but it goes through hexamine to get there. it has some good stuff about possible problems and stuff. (NO kewl spelling [stuph] NBK2000)