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ALENGOSVIG1
January 29th, 2003, 05:59 PM
Does anyone have any information about hexol? Anyone ever played with it before? I think i may have made some this morning.

20g of TNT was dissolved in 25 ml toluene (benzene was recommended) and 160 ml of methanol. It was heated to 40 celcius while stirring until the TNT dissolved. 1g of sodium hydroxide was added to 70 ml of 5% sodium hypochlorite solution which was slowly added to the TNT solution drop by drop with a buret while stirring and maintaing temp at 40 celcius. After the addition i stirred for 30 mins while keeping temp at 40 celcius despite my eyes burning like hell from the fumes. I filtered it throught a pre-wetted coffee filter and washed the light orange precipitate with 60 ml methanol then about 1.5L of water.

The yeild should be about 15g but its still drying. Once its dry I'll try to detonate it. I heated a small amount in a boiling water bath and it didnt melt so its not TNT.

<small>[ January 29, 2003, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: ALENGOSVIG1 ]</small>

Mr Cool
January 29th, 2003, 06:20 PM
It's commonly called hexanitrostilbene, there's plenty of information floating about on this compound.
It's a common charge in "slapper" (exploding foil) detonators, the special kind of EBW detonator, also it is one of the substances that can be added to TNT to improve it's casting properties (reduces tendency of large cast charges to crack and makes crystal size more uniform).

kabooom
February 5th, 2003, 11:31 PM
<img src="http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/pjff/H.N.S.jpg" alt=" - " />

kabooom
February 9th, 2003, 10:46 PM
there are other methods include heating TNT and trinitrobenzaldehyde at 160-170°C and then cooling the mix for two hours (it is what chemistry of explosives says) yield is low for this method. the book also gives the ratios for hypochlorite method. add 10 part 5% hypochlorite solution to a cold solution of 1 part TNT in 10 part methanol let it stand at room temperature until crystals of HNS precipitate. dissolve in nitrobenzene and recrystalize it to get the pale yellowish needle like crystals of HNS. mechanism of this reaction was shown in my previes post. if angelfire changed the pic use <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/pjff/H.N.S.jpg" target="_blank">this link</a>

palash
December 30th, 2007, 03:12 PM
Hi! I do work on Hexol. I have found that SSA and grain size affect explosion of Hexol. I ahve not found any doc on the web which has changed the data on it. I tried to get real fact here, while I coud not get. May I request the members to kindly provide me original fact sheet in this regard. Most docs available on the net shows manipulated data and differs from original fact. Only one French paper showed accurate graph while I could not read the doc as I don't know French. I need your help.

Regs

Man Down Under
December 30th, 2007, 05:13 PM
Just discover the internet did we, five years after it'd have been relevant?

Here's a link for you:

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html

And the mandatory Wikipedia citation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

Regards

megalomania
December 31st, 2007, 07:58 PM
I thought he had a valid question. He has an atypical problem that I thought warranted approving the post, and he demonstrated the requirement of declaring his prior research efforts.

Man Down Under
January 1st, 2008, 03:39 AM
We could help him (and ourselves) if he provided the french document that has the desired information that he can't read, as surely someone here does.

Charles Owlen Picket
January 1st, 2008, 08:34 AM
There may be some confusion with these damn naming conventions as "Hexol" may be referred also as nitrated diphenylamine (yes, the stabilizer used in DBSP). Or it could be "Hexil".... I suppose it gets much more problematic when you start dealing with a variety of languages as well.
Be that as it may, what would be the advantage to extending the nitration of TNT (in the manner described by the OP)? What does this material "Hexol", do that others do not? I can understand the nitration of diphenylamine, as it's cheap and available. ....But Davis describes that nitrated product as very toxic: to the extreme that skin contact yields blisters.