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Cyclonite
August 18th, 2003, 04:26 AM
Im in probley one of the worst places to try a synth of AP but I had a dream that I had a success. The yeilds were poor but I was reduced to useing nail polish remover, 6% H202 and H2SO4 from a battery in a hummer. The H2SO4 was an unknown concentration, it didnt seem to be over 20% though. I used 200ml of H202 and put that in a bottle, I marked off where the 200ml was with a marker then I used a piece of paper the height of the mark and folded 2X to get 50ml. I added that to the 200ml mark and added 50ml of nail posigh remover. Then I put in about 15ml of acid and let it sit for 14 hours at a temp of around 25C in a tent with AC. The yield was about 8g or so. I had no tools to measure weight or volume besides the 200ml container that the H202 came in. In my dream I though it best to get rid of the AP since a military installation is a bad place to have it. So down the shitter it went. This just gos to show no one has a valid reason to not be able do a AP synth. I used the most availible and worst chems and without concentration.

nbk2000
August 18th, 2003, 04:35 AM
And if you can do it, so can the fedaykin, who are probably NOT going to be flushing it down the shitter. :p

BTW, do you mean litterally "flush", like with water? I'd think that too scarce a commodity in the desert to waste on something like shit.

And where'd you get the nail polish remover from? One of the female soldiers? What's the army coming to? :rolleyes:

Oh well, just goes to show you can make an explosive out of practically anything, anywhere, if you know how. :)

Cyclonite
August 18th, 2003, 04:56 AM
Yes I mean flush, the water I use I also shower in. It smells like shit but its clear. Im lucky enough to be in one of the more built up camps. Also yes the nail polish remover was from a female soldier and H202 from a medic.

vulture
August 18th, 2003, 10:21 AM
I wonder how you acces this forum? Does the army have internet terminals for their soldiers?
If so, it would surprise me if it isn't being watched, that would mean you could be in a world of hurt sooner or later...:eek:

Desmikes
August 18th, 2003, 12:07 PM
Here they banned acetone from being sold to the public (I am guessing that's due to abuse by druggies) so up untill I found another source I had to resort to nail polish; the chapest brand of which works just as well.

Cyclonite
August 18th, 2003, 12:56 PM
We setup internet for work but im sure its watched a little but its mostly just automated filters for porn drugs ect.... I never said I did anything questionable but im sure it may look it. I could be making shit up anyways. Im not too worried about it. I dont have quite the level of paranoia of some fourm members. I would never setoff any HE unless it has to do with work, here anyways.

Efraim_barkbit
August 18th, 2003, 01:07 PM
Desmikes, for some reason, I don´t believe you. Especially when you say you come from Russia. maybee the store where you used to buy it have run out of it, and the guys there were just fucking with you when you asked for it?

Sarevok
August 19th, 2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Cyclonite
We setup internet for work but im sure its watched a little but its mostly just automated filters for porn drugs ect....
Outrageous. The army don't let you watch some porn? They don't permit the rape of female soldiers too (http://www.thedeathhouse.com/deathhousenewfi_314.htm). :mad:

What they want, an army of fags?

As to your AP manufacture, I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. Vulture is just a bit "paranoid" as you said. Or perhaps you end up in Guantanamo... :rolleyes:

US soldier jailed for the illegal manufacture of a dangerous bomb using a recipe taken from the internet!

Cyclonite
August 19th, 2003, 07:42 AM
Yes the army is getting worse every year, whos knows whats next? Openly Gay infantry and female delta force... jeezz.

vulture
August 19th, 2003, 07:54 AM
You just don't understand it do you?

The army is enlisting women because of all the gizmos and chemicals they need!
This way you can make bombs presto when and where you want it in the biggest pile of shit in the world!

:D

ossassin
December 7th, 2003, 11:51 PM
Haha, "female soldiers!" Good one, Sarevok! They allow women to enlist, because the feminist groups have them in a headlock. At least women don't get to fight. Our country would be disgraced.

I agree about the raping of the female soldiers. If they want to enlist, that's fine, but they should at least have to become the unit whores. :D

AsylumSeaker
December 9th, 2003, 03:04 AM
I was once on holiday at a pretty remote beach area and managed to make up some AP using 6% h202 detergent, some pilfered pool acid and some acetone from a hardware store. It wasn't so much that I could easily get the chemicals that suprised me, more how quickly I could get them. I just walked around and in 20 minutes had everything I needed including an eyedropper from the chemist.
I can't beleive the misogyny in this place. You are the epitomes of whats wrong with all your countries.

ossassin
December 9th, 2003, 10:32 AM
We're Americans, AsylumSeeker. I bet your country doesn't have the same problems that our country does with women in the military, or at least not the same extent. They even take people like Jessica Lynch, who did absolutely nothing but get captured without fighting back, and they make them heroes. Usually, some guy that really did something brave is overlooked, because the media is too preoccupied with the woman. In this case a guy, I don't remember his name, was in her maintenence unit. He fought until he was out of ammo, and they had to shoot and stab him several times to take him down. You never hear anything about him.

EDIT:
There was also an Iraqi lawyer there in the hostpital saw some sort of high-ranking officer slap Jessica Lynch. He thought that the action was abusive, so he walked quite a long distance through an area known as "Ambush Alley" to tell the Americans where she was. Ambush Alley was an area where snipers on both sides would wait for potential victims to walk by. Anyway, the Americans didn't believe him, so they sent him back to the hospital to draw up a map of it. He went back through Ambush Alley and mapped out the entire complex. This was probably very risky in itself, because there were surely guards there watching him. After the map was done, he trekked through Ambush Alley a third time and gave the map to the Americans. This is one more hero that was overshadowed by the Jessica Lynch feeding frenzy that the media was going through at the time.

AsylumSeaker
December 9th, 2003, 09:14 PM
I live in australia and we allow women in our military. Just because the media is shit and turns whatever it can into a good story to get money is no excuse for rape.

Axt
December 9th, 2003, 09:29 PM
We (Aus.) are the same as US, women are only support troops and arnt allowed to be part of the fighting force, at least in the army dont know about the rest.

tom haggen
December 12th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Well, as an american I think a lot of this political correctness bull shit is exactly that, bull shit.
as for raping women, thats a little harsh, if your nice to them they give it up for free, most of the time. But women definetly do not have any buisness on the battle field. Also a guy i go to school with is a x marine M.P. officer. I have talked to him on a few occasions about internet use in the military. He has told me that the authorities can be watching a soldier's or a marine's computer screen anytime they want, from a remote location. just remember Big Brother is Watching You.

Sarevok
December 12th, 2003, 05:26 AM
Females are given nice things to arouse an erection like breasts, legs, faces, hands, fingers, feet, noses, eyes, lips, hair, and tongues; they have a hole between their legs for penetration by males. They were made this way. Thus, they should be sexually available to anyone willing to fuck them.

Posted by ossassin:
We're Americans

See, I could write a zillion words about how much I would like to be an american, but I'm not. I was born on the pigpen and now I have to live in the dirt with the pigs. Life is unfair.

Brazil is fucked up, and everything here is getting worse. Our "army" is getting ever worse than our other shit. The government has no money and most of the recruits were sent to their homes. I saw on TV, some months ago, some female soldiers practicing their "survival skills" on the Amazon Rainforest. It was ridiculous! They acted like girlscouts playing, not like soldiers training.

Posted by tom haggen:
as for raping women, thats a little harsh, if your nice to them they give it up for free, most of the time.
Untrue. If you are a nigger, a brute, a rich person, a popular person, or if you have a nice car, then they give it up for free. If you are a borderline retard they might give it up for free! But if you are a sensible, intelligent, middle-class, decent white person, they will not give it up. Never. They will laugh at your face, call you a fag and let you stay by yourself, alone, as lonely as a piece of shit. Forever. To rot. And to die. Virgin.

Women are shit meant to be fucked. By force, if necessary.

Evan007
December 12th, 2003, 07:25 AM
What topic was this again? Oh yeah. Anyway Cyclonite, you are not alone in your ability to make explosives appear out of extremely locked down air. I heard of a FEMALE who was caught with a synthesis of "high explosive" (the media called it). She was in prison. This woman had according to the story already made an explosive device with the large amounts synthesized when she was caught with more in the pipeline.

What a freakin champ. FIGHT THE POWER!!!!

But anyway what explosive she could have made is beyond me, although it was a low security facility. I am thinking it was AP though. What else could it be? Even though it was low security, those things arent a friggin holiday. If this Prison-Pyro-Pioneer can do it, by gum so can Anyone!!!!

nbk2000
December 13th, 2003, 12:54 AM
Damn Sarevok...someone badly needs to get laid, eh? ;)

If it's that difficult to get some, follow my suggestion in my thread about "raising machiavelli":

Gun, basement, chain, gun (again), and finally shovel. :D

If it's just for sex, get a mud and dispose of it when you're done. If it's for breeding, get a white woman and get two children out of her prior to disposal, as we (whites) need to increse our numbers (not decrease them).

Don't beat up on the women in your own military by raping them. That's what the enemies women are for. :)

It's only in the last century that most countries have gotten away from condoning rape of captured enemy populations. Since before biblical days it was a given that the losing side would be giving up their holes and their lives to the winners for whatever purpose they saw fit to do with them.

Whole populations would be have their men put to the sword, children sold into slavery, and women raped to death. The soviets had a bit of this when they conquered germany in WWII. There were something like 100,000 births in the 1946 resulting from rape with almost every female from 8 to 80 getting a yard of dick ran through her holes.

Rape was a weapon used by all sides of the Yugoslavian civil war. Good sport.

To say that it's OK to put a bullet through a womans head and kill her, but not stick your dick in her and let her live is, to me, absurdity. Rape can be recovered from. Dead is forever.

Anyways...

All military personnel agree that they have no rights when they join the military. You become the property of the state and will do what you're told to do, and kill or die if that's what they say you need to do, and you also have ZERO privacy.

Naturally ALL communications through military 'nets are monitored. If not by humans directly than certainly through key word filters that kick anything of an "interesting" nature to a human for review.

megalomania
December 13th, 2003, 01:00 AM
Somewhere out there a federal agent is freaking out because he just realized how easy AP is to make. Somebody is probably using this thread as a reference for a journal of forensic science article too.

metal dragon
December 13th, 2003, 01:20 AM
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If you are a nigger, a brute, a rich person, a popular person, or if you have a nice car, then they give it up for free

Now why is this? If you are a ‘nigger’ why do women like that? Is there a specific reason? Or is it just you can’t get laid?

As NBK would call them “muds” they usually have a nice car (most probably stolen) but I know some and they don’t get laid nearly as often as they think/would like to be.
I agree somewhat with your theory that women where made to arouse men, but that does not justify rape. If they flirt, make the first move, let you fuck em’ half way then say stop, then rape could be an option. But if they are only attractive and have not made any “moves” on you then you than have no reason for rape. I really don’t like the idea of NBK’s rape them than kill them. For rape is more a mental scaring something they will have to live with forever. So if the bitch deserves it (and only deserves it) than rape would be a life long torment.

mr.pyro
December 15th, 2003, 07:13 PM
I just tried what Cyclonite did and he is right, all I did was mix less then 10mL of 3% H2O2 and some nail posish reamover, no acid and let it sit for a day, today I went and checked and there are some little crystals that look like pins. long and skinny, should I even Attempt to filter these off or just trash teh mixture, Im not really in need of it and from what I have read the crystals seem very big.

AsylumSeaker
December 15th, 2003, 09:04 PM
'once you've had black you can't go back.'

The other day i succesfully made ap out of nail polish remover, detergent and a 60% acetone glue. I used car battery acid. Left the jar in a container of water to attempt to keep it cool. Yield was suprisingly good contrary to all the 'without proper cooling you will get bad yield' stuff.

vulture
December 16th, 2003, 07:26 AM
Well, it seems like the Iraqi resistance uses a mixture of homemade shit and military stuff.

TV showed a camera crew that was allowed to go with them during a small raid. They used a BP mortar with high explosive rounds. Fired 2 in 20s and then got the fuck out of there.

They also showed a homemade antitank rocket. The warhead was covered by somekind of eight bladed rotor, which would be folded in and a plastic cap would be stuck over it. I have no clue what the purpose of this is. They claimed it could penetrate armor.

TreverSlyFox
December 17th, 2003, 07:59 AM
Vulture,

Sounds like the 8 blade rotor could be part of a "bore safe" arming system but you'ed have to pull the plastic cap just before it was fired if that's what it is. The rotor could bring a primer into position to be hit by a firing pin with whatever number of turns in flight. Or it could release a safety on the firing pin or a combination of both though that would seem a bit too complicated.

I have seen systems that the "spin" of a shell caused enough centrifical force to retract keepers and allow a spring loaded primer to move forward within reach of a firing pin. But with a fin stableized AT rocket it wouldn't have the spin to do that, so a rotor system could do the same thing.

Folkien
November 3rd, 2004, 09:24 PM
As much as I hate to quote from Totse, they had a wonderful article about 2 marines gone AWOL during the first Gulf War. The guys were eventually found near the Syrian border in a makeshift camp with several large pits full of human feces, covered in tarred sand. It took the military a while to figure out that they had processed about 140 kilos of urea and were distilling sugar alcohols from harvested fruit to make an estimated 220 kilos of nitromannitose based explosives. Yet more proof that you can make explosives from anything if you have the knowhow and the patience to deal with horrible working conditions.

simply RED
November 20th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Explosives can be made everywere since NH4NO3 and acetone peroxide can me made, find everywhere.

And yes, bitch is always a bitch. In a soviet sapper manual from 1986 there is a sentence "Only TNT deals with her", this is enough I think.
But... not all wemen are unsuitable for military purpose. I knew at lest one who was very close to my skills...
She was able not to act bitchy in some importaint situations....
....rare gift....