Soft Kill Claymore

[nbk2000]

The military has this neat new toy called the MCCM (Modular Crowd Control Munition) which is supposed to be a "non-lethal" version of the claymore, using hard rubber pellets instead of steel shot.

The "rubber" pellets are actually high-durometer PVC spheres .33" in diameter. They are held in a plastic matrix which is a plate drilled with holes of slighly larger I.D. than the pellets OD., so that the pellets are held in a uniform pattern and don't rattle around inside the casing. This also serves as a kind of barrel to direct the rubber "bullet" (pellet) in the proper direction.

The pellets are propelled with less than an ounce of sheet explosive, of the PETN type, to a velocity of ~300FPS. This is enough to hurt you, but not kill you, as long as you're not standing directly in front of it when it goes off.

With this loading, and the usual claymore size and placement on the ground, the pellets hit the ground within 100 feet.

Now, don't let the term "Non-lethal" fool you, because this isn't harmless. The pellets will penetrate the body if you're less than 15 yards away from it, and through clothing too. I've seen pictures of what these kinds of pellets (fired from shotguns) can do to a person. You'd have penetrating wounds of an inch or so depth, which would be very painful and disfiguring, even if it doesn't kill you.

However, that doesn't concern us, since we wouldn't be on the receiving end anyways. :)

An application would be to use this as a deterrent to kevlar roaches interfering with any activities you might be engaged in at the time they so rudely interupt you, like when you're making off with the loot. ;)

See, killing someone (especially pork) means no statute of limitations, so you always have that hanging over your head. But, if you blast them with hundreds of rubber pellets which puncture their body in multiple places to a depth of several inches, leaving them crippled from the pain...but alive...then after 8 years (or whatever it is), you're untouchable.

You get away, they get a disability pension, and everyone's happy. :p

You're also saving explosives, since the SKC uses less than 20 grams, whereas the normal claymore uses about 700 grams, 35x more. :o So you could make 35 SKC's with the same amount of explosive as one normal claymore. :D

Plus, the SKC (Soft-Kill Claymore) can be used in situations where using a full-powered one could get you killed. Like, for instance, directing them at your hideout to take out surrounding bacon. If you use normal claymores, then you'd be spraying your own position with fragments, as well as the bacon. BAD!

But, if the pellets are lightweight rubber or plastic, then the frags are unable to penetrate into your abode by the time they reach it, if they don't hit the ground first.

You could even use these indoors because the pellets are too light and soft to penetrate through interior walls, but are still going fast enough to fuck up anyone inside the room, as well as being deafened by the explosion of an ounce of explosive in the confines of a room. I'd imagine the pellets would do quite a bit of ricocheting around too.

I've whipped up a nice .GIF animation showing the general construction of the SKC, but it's 640Kb, too large to up here or on my server, so I've upped it to the Pizzaman briefcase. Only took me an hour to make it but I'm happy with it.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com username: jakio50 pass: tehwin

The patent number for this is 6,298,788.

[DBSP]

I think I have seen something similar to this, if not the same thing. But as I remember it the frags was propelled by flash instead of a HE. The thing kinda looked like a car audio set, only it was a plastic box with one of the short ends open and the frags at thew other eclosed end.

And I can't find the .GIF in the briefcase, I don't know if it's only my computer that is screwing me or if you screwed up while upploading it ;)

[nbk2000]

No, I didn't screw up the upload, because I verified it by downloading it.

What happened was some PUNK deleted it, no doubt after they downloaded it themselves. :mad:

I've re-upped it to my site. You'll have to use HJSplit to rejoin the parts.

Right click/save Part 1 (http://nbk2000.freeyellow.com/MCCManimation.gif.001) and Part 2 (http://nbk2000.freeyellow.com/MCCManimation.gif.002)

For some weird reason, my site renamed the file extensions to gif.gig, instead of gif.001 and gif.002, so you'll have to rename them as such when saving them.

I know what you're talking about, DBSP, as I've seen it too. That's not the MCCM though. That's some flash-bang manufacturers version, that uses a heavy steel box with a flash charge in it, to propel the rubber balls.

[NoltaiR]

Claymores have always amused me due to the sheer power that each one yields and due to the fact that manufacturing one is almost foolproof... but then again if you are a fool that made one, then you will probably be seriously injured at the very least. But my main point I have to stress in this post is that in all the claymores I have deployed (in theory, of coarse) and seen deployed, I have never seen one that couldn't tear through sheet metal so I find it hard to believe that a police force would actually use one (whether rubber or not). And I very much agree with NBKs statement that within a certain range, penetration is likely, especially when used with a sheet explosive comparable with PETN.

[nbk2000]

While searching google to prove our ownership of the files being sold by the thieving shit (thread elsewhere), I ran across the link to the other LLW claymore you were talking about DBSP.

http://www.pop-inc.com/POP_Cat_Pg15.html

[NoltaiR]

Well I guess I stand corrected, although I can see where lawsuits against police forces may result due to excessive force and the fact that you can't really stop the munition from injuring any innocent people who may be among the crowd.

[DBSP]

While on the subject of claymores agin I though I'd clarify some of the pics linked to my sig.

On my vacation I made two minimores. I took an empty 22lr 50 round box and taped the upper side of it full of BBs, I'll have to have a look to see how many there where but I belive there where about 120 of them. I packed 100g of ANNM into the box and wrapped it in duct tape, I left the side with the frags open, so that only the thin paper-tape covered the BBs. Then put a 22WM shell with PETN in the center of the charge perpendicular to the frags. I put the claymore on the ground and put a 30x42cm 1mm steel plate 1m infront of the claymore then detonated it.

I did catch the video of it which is availible in my sig as well as the pics of the setup and the plate.

The plate had been fully penetrated by the frags, without ANY effort it seemed. 75 of the frags hit the plate. Some small rocks from the ground had also penetrated the plate. The largest rock to penetrate the plate was 1x2mm and the smallest about 0,1x0,1mm.

Later that weak I detonated another claymore this time against a slightly funnier target namely a car!! Not to far from where I was staying a ford escort had been abandoned and filled with garbage. I put the claymore which was equal in size to the first claymore on a wooden tripod I quickly made before the detonation. I belive it was about 50cm high. It was a bit difficult to aim the claymore this time and I think I got it a bit to hight because there where only about 28 hits on the car, however there where a window directly above where the frags had hit so I suspect that at least as many frags had gone out that way(there where no glass in the frame).

Well well, the frags did also fully penetrate this car, the holes in the car plating which is if I am to belive my brother 1.6mm thick looked exactly the same as the ones in the 1mm plating.

I coulden't have a look inside the car because the car was full of junk but I shure wouldn't like to be sitting in it with one of these claymores aimed at it !!.

I could have had a look in the car but there was a good reason not to, TIME. I had to get the fuck out of there really quick because just 300m from the car there was a couple of poachers that I suspect had just shoot a moose! :) At first I thought about skipping the charge but then I though that if they just did something illegal then I might just as well do the same. :D
And I also knew that I would be 1000km from the car within 12h since I was on my way home. Man what an adrenaline rush that blast was, and the getaway from the car on the narrow gravel road doing well over 140 km/h with the poachers hunting us :cool:

Well that was about as off topic one can get but what the hell at least the word claymore is compatible with this thread;)

[FragmentedSanity]

Lo all :)

Am I the only one who thinks those poachers must carry their balls about in a wheelbarrow?
Maybe I justy react differently than some - but if someone set of any kind of explosive device near me Id be heading in the other direction real quick.

Ayway - back to the topic, any suggestions as to suitable materials for thne rubber balls if improvising such a device. My first thought was those high bounce rubber balls that are about an inch in diameter. They are a lot bigger so penetration is less likley, but these little balls would still pack a punch, I wonder if the kenetic energy could break ribs and such? The other benifit these balls would have is the bounce. Letting of such a device inside a room would be insane - even outside ricochets would still be fairly powerful. Of course youd probably need a little more explosive to get similar velocities with the heaveir frags.
Later
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