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Mr Ketam
April 6th, 2002, 07:48 AM
Just a tip:

Some time ago someone asked if they could seal a charge of APAN, ANNM whatever, without already placing the detonator in it.
This how we used to do it:
Get some different packets of drinking straws. Here we get them in different sizes, 4.5 5.0 and 5.5 mm. Seal the end of biggest size straw with some tape. Place this otherwise empty straw in your charge. It can be glued in place in such a way that there's no way moisture can get in.
Take another straw, one that fits nicely in the first one, and seal one end with hotglue. Fill it with your favourite primary and fuse it.
Just as you’re about to detonate you can slide the detonator in the explosive. Light the fuse....

Advantages: the charge can be sealed without a detonator in place, there's no need to force a primary filled cap through some HE and finally there’s no metal so there's no scrapnel.

This way we successfully detonated sodiumchlorate/lampoil (10:1) APAN (1:5) and ANNM (5:1). Sometimes it is necessary to use a cap of 20 cm or even longer. Especially with the SC/oil. The finished caps where transported in a strong cardboard tube.

I have some pictures, I will post them as soon as I find out how to do that.

Hope this is helpful.

Yi
April 6th, 2002, 08:49 AM
Good idea....BUT you've started 2 threads with your first posts :(. Tut tut tut.

mr.evil
April 6th, 2002, 09:13 AM
Hey,
well..another Pyro-man from the netherlands :)

what kind of primary/base charge do you use?

you can post some pics by putting them on the internet and give the links.. i would say to use Geocities(quick, easy and free..)

Cya

Mr Ketam
April 6th, 2002, 01:22 PM
Hello Mr Evil (TheShadow isn't it),

I tried to upload the pics to the ftp. I failed. RTC can you tell how to do it?

mr.evil
April 6th, 2002, 01:40 PM
Hello mr.Ketam
how did you know my other nickname? do i know you? :) maybe Frans L?

Why don't you put the pics on an Website, it isn't much work..can't wait to see the pics..

BTW. Check your e-mail.

mr.evil
April 8th, 2002, 05:00 AM
Hello,
here you can find the pictures of the 'straw detonator' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/evilpics2000/mr.html?1018253139580" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/evilpics2000/mr.html?1018253139580</a>

Cya

0EZ0
April 8th, 2002, 07:46 AM
Don't mean to be a wet blanket, but would static be a problem with the 'straw detonator'?
There was an accident i had with a device prematurely detonating from static, so i am a little wary of such things happening again.

If static is a problem then maybe use rolled wax paper as a substitute for the straw?

<small>[ April 08, 2002, 06:49 AM: Message edited by: 0EZ0 ]</small>

mr.evil
April 8th, 2002, 07:48 AM
'well, i use always plastics, never had any problem... i suggest to just touch the plastic before you put explosives in it.

or you roll some paper tubes, and use the same technic as mr.Ketam(paper instead of plastic)

Cya

Celtick
April 8th, 2002, 07:59 AM
Hey,
Mr Ketam & Mr evil since I’m out of school I’m not able to get many Chems, I'm trying to get some from my buddy's in HLO studies and such. Maybe you can tell my witch kind of products (Dutch Brand names?)you use and were you got them?

mr.evil
April 8th, 2002, 08:21 AM
Hello Celtick(i think i know you from msn)

i don't use any household chemicals, as they aren't pure... i get my chemicals at friends, and belgium(in belgium there are alot of drugstores who sell chemicals..without any questions)

sorry man <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Cya

Celtick
April 8th, 2002, 08:50 AM
Yeah,
Remembert asking you the same on Msn --> jan klaas de paashaas

mr.evil
April 8th, 2002, 08:59 AM
jan klaas de paashaas --> The easter bunny! :D

wel, you can find in dutch drugstores something like:
Tendo's glycerine, Acetone, H2O2, Alcohol etc.

just search!

Cya

Celtick
April 8th, 2002, 09:18 AM
Yes, got those from "DA - Drogist" :)
i'm trying to order some H202 35% from a hairdresser

mr.evil
April 8th, 2002, 10:02 AM
i got my H2O2 30% also from the DA drugstore, it doesn't stand in the store, you have to gonna ask for it... in belgium it is lots cheaper, about 4€ for 1L 30%

Cya

Mr Ketam
April 8th, 2002, 04:00 PM
H2O2 should never be a problem.

Farmershops (Boerenbond etc) sell a desinfectend that's 50% H2O2 and nothing else. It's called Aqua Clean or something like that.
They also sell big bottles of Iodine tincture, jerrycans with phoshorus acid and DCM.
All this stuff is on the shelfs, you don't need to ask! Read some labels.

BTW, these stores also got pig-tranqulisers and and the needles witch you need when you're gonna use them. What fun can be had with those.....
Gna, gna, gna....

<small>[ April 08, 2002, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Mr Ketam ]</small>

Zambosan
April 8th, 2002, 04:37 PM
Mr. Ketam: those pig tranquilizers wouldn't happen to be ketamine, would they?

Mr Ketam
April 9th, 2002, 03:53 PM
Funny you should ask. As a matter of fact, it isn't.

Ketamine of the shelf, wouldn't that be great!!
No, our ketamine also comes from Mexico or from vets with money problems.

I'm not completely sure what it is, but I think it was a benzo or it might be a tricyclic. No fun anyway. At least no fun to take yourself...

You want me to check it out?

Zambosan
April 9th, 2002, 05:41 PM
No, no, thanks anyways. :)
No personal interest, just a cheeky question. :D

nbk2000
April 9th, 2002, 08:00 PM
I've read that in Nepal, you can buy ANY drug OTC without a prescription. Morphine, ketamine, rohypnol, whatever. And it's CHEAP.

:D

Think I'll have to stop by there during my world tour.

Arkangel
April 9th, 2002, 09:37 PM
You wouldn't like it, too many muds for you methinks :rolleyes:

However, you can get pretty much anything you want otc. Bought shitloads of antibiotics there to bring home e.g. 100x200mg doxycycline about $1. Not sure about morphine and stuff, however, in Asia, it's common practice in hospitals that a doctor will tell the patient what drugs they need, and the family then hop off to the Pharmacy down the road to get it.....if they can afford it. Otherwise they just die.

If you want to know for certain about the Morphine I'll ask a (mud) friend out there.

I do know that you can buy the bestest, sweetest hash I have EVER had there. :D

(btw, wasn't this thread about sexy detonator ideas? Anyone got anything to add on that?)

<small>[ April 09, 2002, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: Arkangel ]</small>

mark
April 9th, 2002, 11:09 PM
Its a great idea. Id personaly use aquarium tubing as you can buy it in wider diameters, but this idea is very clever. Kudos.

andreas
April 16th, 2002, 09:39 AM
man this is becoming a dutch thread maybe we should get each other email adresses as people with the same interests are difficult to find.
mine is kramrak@hotmail.com

mr.evil
April 16th, 2002, 09:46 AM
Hello,
i've just added you to my msn messenger list.... please don't call e-mail adresses here(accept the one in my profile)