Glock Select Fire Device Blueprints Inside

[MP5Guy]

Link: http://gunnutjoe.tripod.com/Gunnutjoe/id3.html

Once there click on pics for blueprints and then click again on print to enlarge for saving. Below is a pic of a legally registered Post Dealer Sample with a folding stock. Device was made from prints at above link.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/060013.jpg

[Jacks Complete]

How are you going to get that in your ankle holster? :D

There is a 3Mb video on that site of some guy shooting a full-auto glock. Looks like a good laugh, but useless if you are at more than about 15 feet. Even the guy in the video, who, we can assume, is doing this legally and has some practise under his belt isn't keeping half the shots on the man size targets at that distance.

Probably be good for stopping gunfights at near point-blank, but in the scene where he engages three targets, the two he wasn't shooting would have already shot him! Heck, the nearest could have charged him down.

Must be hell on the frame, too.

[MP5Guy]

Controlable in .40 than the 17 in 9MM due to the comped and somewhat longer barrel and slide.
Drawback being the .40 ammo is a good bit more expensive than say the foreign 124 Gr 9MM like Geco or Olympic per 1000. Frame integrity is not really an issue and a buffer is advised to soften recoil to both weapon and shooter. Multiple mag dumps do heat the slide up to the point that you will burn your hand if you forget and grab the slide. Folding stock is a very quick detach with the push of a button at the bottom rear of the grip and can be concealed hanging under the arm of the weak hand. So the whole package with a Std. HiCap Mag is quite concealable. Hooking your thumb into the trigger guard while gripping the end of the folded stock will put all rounds into a B-29 Target at 15 Yds with alittle practice. A 17 and a 23 below become potent passports even to the most casual observer.



http://www.hunt101.com/img/060173.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/img/070432.jpg

[ossassin]

You'd have to be able to mill your own parts in order to make this, though. Any idea how to do that? What equipment would you need?

[tingtao]

Would a .45 such as the G30 be pushing the limits (assuming a high-cap mag was available, or you'd be rediculously content vaporizing 10 rds in a nanosecond)?
Is that simply too much power to be pumping out of a pistol on full auto?
I am aware of the MAC10 but that was designed for the purpose, and is of course heftier and larger.

[MP5Guy]

Originally posted by ossassin
You'd have to be able to mill your own parts in order to make this, though. Any idea how to do that? What equipment would you need?

You would need a milling machine and the selector rod would be done on a lathe. By the way the simple looking selector rod is the hardest part to make. All parts are hardened after machining.


A G30 would indeed be a Handful... And the HiCap 32 Rd Scherer Mags are gone in a heartbeat. Actually most all of the 32 fired cases are still in the air when the slide locks back for the last round. Folks that shoot it for the first time turn around and say it jammed? Nope you emptied the mag:cool:

[ossassin]

I've searched the internet pretty extensively, but I've found nothing on how to machine one's own parts, use a lathe for firearm-related applications, harden parts after machining, etc. Is there a good website out there that explains all of this? Thanks.

[Ammonal]

Ossasin: Do you have a lathe to start with? If you do not find a local engineering workshop that does and take them the diagrams and 9/10ths of the time they will make your parts for a small fee and dont ask questions. I personally outsource all the lathe work and milling because A) I cant afford a metal lathe or a horizontal or vertical mill, and B) I dont have the skills to use these machines. As far as information to using lathes for firearm related things, look for general books on lathe work, for example if you wanted to make the glock auto conversion parts then the technique you would use is just turning metal rod down on a lathe.

For information on hardening steel, and doing so yourself try Bill Holmes books as these cover the basics on hardening and also cover the various details about machining metal parts.
If you are seriously interested in metal working do a course, or get some training or some books that will teach you how to machine metal into useful 'things'.

Basically, only look for general metal working techniques not specifically firearm related aspects; try a search for "hardening steel" in Google.

[ossassin]

Thanks for all of the info, Ammonal! I have next to no metal-working equipment to start out with and only a fair bit of knowledge and experience in this field. I'll try to find a local engineering workshop. My uncle is an aeronautical engineer at one of the large aerospace companies (which will remain nameless for security reasons.) Maybe he has access to things like this. I'll look into it and keep you posted.

[PHAID]

Ossassin just be aware that if the part your wanting made is obviously for a weapon or silencer that alot of shops wont do the work or they will inform the local law enforcement.

Try to come up with a good excuse as to what the part is for such as the baffles your having made are for a muffler system on your large scale gas models.

[ossassin]

What would be my excuse for having holes in them, though? I'd be afraid to have them make something like an auto-sear or a bolt. How much would a lathe and a milling machine cost? They might be good long-term investments. I have plenty of experience using those sort of things for woodworking projects. How different could using metal be?

[PHAID]

Ossassin Metal work is much differant from woodworking.

It isnt real hard to learn and its not super expensive to get a good basic setup that would cover gunsmithing and many other projects.

Here is a link to a site that sells combo setups that are both a lathe and mill.

http://www.smithy.com/MWdefault.htm

[ossassin]

I've done a little research on mills, lathes, etc., and that seems to be a "no-name" brand. I like the fact that they sell combo-tools, though.

On a side note, is it possible to "weld" PVC pipe? It seems like you could melt it and fuse pieces together. Also, can you buy flat sheets of PVC material?

[PHAID]

I am not sure if you can weld PVC in the terms you mean.

The glue used on PVC basicly fuses it together so in a way it welds it.

You can buy welders for plastics but i have no experiance with them so cant give any advice.

As for PVC sheets i will have to seaarch to see if they are made.

[darkdontay]

It is VERY difficult to melt pvc and contorol it enough to join it to other parts. You can buy powedered plastic and use it as a joiner if you wish.

Flat Sheets PVC -

HUGE SELECTION
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=PVC+Sheet+and+Shapes&Page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1

Rigid opaque flat PVC sheets
http://www.bayplastics.co.uk/Product%20Materials/prod-palopaque.htm

[DimmuJesus]

Does anybody know anything about the full-auto switches that you can purchase? I have one and when I install it onto my Glock 17 (First generation), the slide is difficult to put back on for one, and second it is very difficult to pull back to chamber a round. I don't dare fire it, for I am afraid there won't be sufficient force to push the slide back and eject the fired cartridge. Also, I am unable to even flip the switch from semi to full auto (and vice versa) unless I have the slide pulled back. The switch I purchased didn't come with instructions and I have know idea whom to ask about this.
On the topic of how practical the full-auto fire on a glock is; it really isn't. In my opinion it's just more of a fun novelty for collectors and enthusiasts. It seems to me that it would make more sense to use an MP5, Tec-9, the Macs, or UZIs for full-auto fire. However, in a serious combat situation, the full-auto fire may come in handy as a very last resort when being completely over-run. But then again...wouldn't you really want to conserve ammo in a situation like that?

[lamar pye]

This device is very impractal for anything except wasting ammo in a very short time. The rate of fire is far too high and unless you have a shoulder stock the muzzle climb would be insane. An SMG would do a far better job and have a slower easier to control rate of fire. Full auto has its place but many professional operators are quite happy with the selector set on semi. An empty magazine can get you killed if you are using a weapon for serious work!

[jonesy]

A lot is mentioned about machineing ones own parts for firearms, and it realy isnt that hard with the appriate gear, its mainly time consuming and takes a bit of practice.
A lathe to do the work will set you back about 3grand, US or AUS (quoting differant brands sold in the differant countries)
A milling machine is more difficult, so ive utilised a modified drill press to take milling machine vises and a chuck to take the mill atachments. all up this can be done cheeply. In turms of cheeply i think 3 thousand for a lathe even 3500 is a good amount to invest if you intend on building lots of stuff.
As far as using this machineary youre best bet is the homeworkshop serious of books, and probably a cheak on amazon to see if they list any dedicated lathe/milling books, another good item is the homeworkshop video, as it shows you what all that jargon in his books is about. this can be downloaded from a few sources (ftp and p2p programes) There is no differance from milling parts for a gun or milling parts for anything else, u just need to know how to create the desired shape.
Alot of people are scared off by the size of the machine thinking they are very complex but they are quite simple and easy to get the hang off.
If you wish to outsource as you dont want or cant offord a lathe iv had no problems with creating a feasible excuse for the item you are making, even by adding jargon such as (Valve purge assy, nose cone, for Aircondioner #54) on the bottom of say the plans for a muzzle brake will look quite legitimate and not raise an eye brow.
As iv said, iv had no problems, but maybe youre country is differant?
Another thought is doing weekend, or night school in a latheing class, here is australia we have courses that run for 5 nights in which you are tought the basics and much more in usuing lathes etc.
thanks

[zaibatsu]

lamar pye:

Useless, yes, at least for most applications. Although you could try what the chinese used with their shoulder stocked mausers - turn in on it's side and the recoil should help you evenly distribute some lead in a room :)

[Skean Dhu]

If your serious on assembling a Metal workshop here is a link to a number of books that can be bought , that go into great detail on building and operating your own metal shop from scrap metals. http://www.lindsaybks.com/dgjp/djgbk/series/
the host site also has a number of other books, some of which explain how to make rifle barels, and various other gun parts. all around they offer very interesting 'archaic" knowledge that has all but disappeared

[daysleeper]

In a dream I once built a full auto only G17, and to my suprise it was very easy to control as long as the burst were kept short.
Also in this dream I had, the least amount of rounds I could let loose by sqeezing and releasing as fast as I could, was 3-4 rounds.

And turning the gun on it's side did seem to make a better "room sweeper type weapon".
But the details are always a little sketchy in dreamland.

It was my opinion, that this weapon would be good only for assassination at very close ranges, not exeeding 10 yards.
And use the factory mags, aftermarket ones just can't keep up.

[knowledgehungry]

Handguns are inaccurate enough on semi auto let alone full auto, how fast do you need to shoot anyway? You can send out ten rounds in in 10 seconds easy with any semiauto. This seems pointless.

[maarten221]

I know that there are carbine like conversions for Glocks and 1911's. Go look at http://www.gunlocators.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=53
This will solve the control issue - as for ammo feed? I wonder what a belt fed glock would do at the range - otherwise keep 4 32rnd clips on you at all times.

[DimmuJesus]

maarten-it appears that these units only use the lower frame from Glocks. As I understand it the full auto conversion is done on the slide. At least that's how the installed full-auto switches work. After installing a CCU, wouldn't you have to improvise another way to convert the gun to full-auto? At this point then you are basically talking about making a whole different type of firearm full auto, in which case you might as well use a more inexpensive gun with inexpensive magazines (A 33 round mag for a Glock can run as easy as $120 a piece)

[charger]

maarten221, how would you make a belt fed Glock? I've never heard of a real conversion (although there was one guy that said he made a belt-fed 1911, but his story seems iffy) Or is this just something from your imagionation?

[Voyager]

Apparently there is a full-auto Glock fan in the UK. :-)


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13857329_method=full_siteid=50143 _headline=-THE-MOST-TERRIFYING-GUN-IN-THE-WORLD----AND-IT-HAS-JUST-BEEN-SEIZED-ON-OUR-STREETS-name_page.html


MOST TERRIFYING GUN IN THE WORLD SEIZED Jan 26 2004


EXCLUSIVE

By Gary Jones


THE first fully automatic handgun to surface in the UK - capable of firing 1,100 rounds a minute - has been seized in a police raid.

It is a Glock 18, banned from sale in the US and described as a "monster of a weapon" that fires bullets with the intensity of a high- pressure water hose.

The ultra-light, Austrian-made gun was discovered in a swoop on the home of a suspected Yardie gangster. Scotland Yard has issued a nationwide alert as they try to find the owner and establish how the weapon got into Britain.

A Met firearms expert said: "It's extremely worrying that such a weapon is here. I can't stress enough just how dangerous this gun is.

"If it was fired on the streets of London by someone unused to its immense firing capability, there could be a massacre.

"Why even a criminal would want to own such a gun is beyond me. It would probably bethe ultimate in gun status-symbols." The Yard has warned front-line officers about the discovery, which followed a a raid on a residential address in Norwood, South East London.

A force internal report said: "This is the first weapon of its kind to be seized in the UK. It is not issued to any agencies in the UK and is believed to have been imported from the US."

The report said the Glock can fire "armour-piercing ammunition". It has a compensation device to keep it straight during firing.

SAS officers use the gun in combat with a 19-round magazine. Israeli security forces and Germany's GSG-9 anti-terror unit also carry it.

British armed police use the semi-automatic Glock 17, also a favourite with criminals.

America banned its import in 1986. US arms expert Walt Rauch said: "Shooting the G18 full-auto is just like turning on a high-pressure hose,"

Det Insp Martin Ward said: "This is something of a monster of a weapon. We are appealing for anyone to come forward in the strictest confidence with information."

[bigbang]

The link at the begining of this thread doesn't work, (at least for me) so I thought I would post the US patent for a Glock select fire switch. US 5705763. It contains some good detail and does not look to hard to make.

[festergrump]

The ultra-light, Austrian-made gun was discovered in a swoop on the home of a suspected...

I was always under the impression that Glocks were manufactured right here in Georgia, USA. In the city of Smyrna, to be exact. I know there is a Glock plant there, and I cannot see why they would not also manufacture the full-auto as well as the semis. They are not entirely different in mechanism. (Cobray has a plant near there as well).

On a slight aside, it's notable why Glock may have chosen a manufacturing plant in Georgia. Georgians take their guns as seriously as all members here at the Forum do. Check out This City of Kennesaw Ordinace:

Sec. 34-1 Heads of households to maintain firearms.
(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the City, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the City limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability, which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

It's Kennesaw's only true and interesting claim to fame...

[Neoknite]

The Glock 18 would be a good way to go if you could get your hands on one. But only government agencies are allowed here. But if anyone could find the blueprints of a Glock 18c they should be able to convert a glock 17 fairly easily. You can buy a 31 round mag ($29.95) for a Glock 18 that fits all 9mm Glocks. Check it out http://topglock.com/catalog/mags.htm
Also Charger why would you want a belt fed Glock. The whole point of having a full auto pistol is it being concealable. And when the shit hits the fan youll be packing one hell of a suprise.

[tdog49]

Fester,
All Glocks made for sale in this country (USA) are made here. This is in accordance w/the semi-auto import ban of President Bush Sr. (I believe...1989???) Beretta's also. Before that, however they were made in Austria and then imported. Beretta's of course were made in Italy. Of course this change probably would have occured anyway due to the strong "Pro USA" opinions of the cash wielding public......

Monster of a weapon???? pure anti gun drivel. ugh....nuff said.

As to its practicality...I have a friend who was on the Scottsdale P.D. CIRT Team. These 18's were issued to them as a backup to their MP5's. This was 1988 ish. He loved it. Dump the standard 17 rd clip in 1.7 sec.....They were taught to "sweep" with them. Basically sweep from l to r holding the trigger down, as a room clearing technique if their main weapon jammed or was lost or ran outta ammo or whatever.

I'm sure it would be hard to control, but w/ enuff practice you'd get the hang of it.
Sure would be intimidating to be in front of though.....

[Jacks Complete]

Wow, the Mirror (and the other gutter press in the UK) still don't have a clue.

The article contradicts itself in two different places!

1) "It is a Glock 18, banned from sale in the US" then "America banned its import in 1986."

2) " It is not issued to any agencies in the UK" then "SAS officers use the gun in combat with a 19-round magazine."

and there are at least three other errors:
1) It doesn't fire AP ammo any more than any other gun,
2) The title is pure BS - watch someone with an OICW take out an entire 4-man team of Marines or Army with a single shot - that is scary. Watch someone open up with the HK PDW and see the tiny grain of rice sized bullets rip holes through armour plates at 100+ yards - that is scary.
3) "If it was fired on the streets of London by someone unused to its immense firing capability, there could be a massacre." WTF? How would it be different to ANYONE opening up on a London street? It isn't like anyone on the average street is going to have even a penknife to fight back with...

Of course, the cops hate it when they don't have the best toys. They want the best, every time - body armour, superior numbers, helicopters, snipers, MP5 and G3 automatics, etc. I don't mind that, but then they work to ban everything that beats just *one* of the advantages they have.

They want to ban body armour, so they can kill people more easily, they helped get pistols banned, and they are bastards who push for tighter rules for guns all the time, they hate the idea of anyone knowing half what they know...

[ossassin]

1) "It is a Glock 18, banned from sale in the US" then "America banned its import in 1986."

Jack, the US was importing them up until 1986 as a regulated NFA weapon which must be registered for civilian ownership. In 1986, they banned the sale of newly imported or manufactured automatic weapons in the US. As for the SAS comment, I just don't know...

As for the other three "errors," they're not errors at all; they're propaganda. I see this in every gun-related news article that I read these days.

[charger]

Also Charger why would you want a belt fed Glock. The whole point of having a full auto pistol is it being concealable.

I agree that the full auto glock is made for concealability, I was referencing another post made by maarten221 and I was intrigued by the thought of possible pistol fire for more than a second or two.

If you go to http://www.shottist.com/beltfed.html, you will see that the belt does not take much room and is flexible that can aid in concealment. This is the site I was talking about in my previous post.

I somehow doubt it is possible to make the convesions discribed on that page. I just thought it was a cool idea and was wondering if maarten221 knew about a belt fed glock that he spoke about

[ossassin]

The select-fire Glock isn't just an automatic pistol; it's an entire weapons system. While we're talking about select-fire conversions, how about telling us how to make the compensator and stock?

[lowjack]

But that gun nut joe link has been dead for awhile and I dont see any other living links to the glock select fire device. This being a glock select fire device thread and all I just thought maybe it'd have one.

[nbk2000]

Here's someone purporting to sell them ready-made.

I notice the lack of traceable or reputible payment options. I think scam.

http://www.geocities.com/shokansunrise/

Anyone have ~$400 to test whether or not they'll fess up the goods? :D

[Storm on the Horizon]

Here's someone purporting to sell them ready-made.

I notice the lack of traceable or reputible payment options. I think scam.

http://www.geocities.com/shokansunrise/

Anyone have ~$400 to test whether or not they'll fess up the goods? :D

NBK,

I’d avoid this fellow like the plague. I’ve read about his operation on several firearm sites. I'll try and find some threads for you. These kits do work. You just won’t get one from him. One of those snatch (your cash) and run types.

There was a site years ago.... I believe it was fullautoglock.com (now defunct) run out of the U.S. The proprietor sold Glock and Beretta full auto conversion kits. The conversion kits ran around $350.00 at the time. They worked? Yeah.... that’s why he’s no longer in business. The kits weren’t exactly NFA violations alone, but he got plenty of attention (ZOG type). Ended all with a raid on his residence. Plenty of kits. Unfortunately during the search they found at least one of his kits installed in a weapon. NFA VIOLATION. Bye, Bye fullautoglock.com. Hello sodomiteplaything.com via federal prison. I’m sure they also tried to get the names of as many of his customers as they could.

Hope this helps bro.

[nbk2000]

It was obvious to me that it was a rip-off scheme.

Unfortunately, even a legit operation would likely do the same things, as you can't own a retail store and sell things like this without ATF goons smashing in your doors.

You'd have to sell it over the net using disposable websites (that'd get shutdown quickly), accepting payment in a way that doesn't require a bank account (since that'd be seized), and live in a country that doesn't do extradition to the US.

[ShadowMyGeekSpace]

I can't see the actual link (it says I need to be registered, as always), so I can't tell you if its the same plans as the ones I'm about to post, but I ran across these blueprints a few weeks ago:

Filesize: 745kb

Mirror 1: http://dedi.mygeekspace.com/~shadow/FullAutoGlock.pdf (Germany)
Mirror 2: http://freedom.broken-irc.net/FullAutoGlock.pdf (USA, Florida)
Mirror 3: http://rapidshare.de/files/19986059/FullAutoGlock.pdf.html (Rapidshare.de)

With three mirrors I doubt anyone will have issues downloading it... But feel free to throw it on the FTP too, and edit that link into my post.

[tomu]

This link shows photo of a selective fire device for a Glock:

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=857623

It is legal to buy such a device in Germany.

[macgyver6868]

The link isnt working,does anyone have the original information?If so could you send a copy to macgyver6868@yahoo.com?

[ShadowMyGeekSpace]

Wrong topic NBK? This is the Glock select fire blueprints thread, not the candybar bomb.

[Arisaka]

I agree that the full auto glock is made for concealability, I was referencing another post made by maarten221 and I was intrigued by the thought of possible pistol fire for more than a second or two.

If you go to http://www.shottist.com/beltfed.html, you will see that the belt does not take much room and is flexible that can aid in concealment. This is the site I was talking about in my previous post.

I somehow doubt it is possible to make the convesions discribed on that page. I just thought it was a cool idea and was wondering if maarten221 knew about a belt fed glock that he spoke about

Wasn't there also a paladin book covering belt fed conversions ?

[Arisaka]

The link isnt working,does anyone have the original information?If so could you send a copy to macgyver6868@yahoo.com?

Just go to the http://www.egun.de auction site and search on glock :cool:
Most germans don't ship international.

[droz]

I hate to practice thread necromancy, but are the blueprints for the select fire switch still available? I'm quite curious about the switch itself.

[a3990918]

I hate to practice thread necromancy, but are the blueprints for the select fire switch still available? I'm quite curious about the switch itself.

Is this what you are looking for? :confused:The prints are at the end of the file.

Glock Fire-Selector System for Semi-Auto Firearm-US Patent 5705763

http://rapidshare.com/files/98965287/GLOCK_B-PRINT.pdf.html

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[droz]

Yessir that is exactly what I was looking for, much thanks.

[a3990918]

Yessir that is exactly what I was looking for, much thanks.

Glad to help. Is a friend of yours :rolleyes: considering the construction of this or was it just for intellectual curiosity"

[iHME]

Damn, I just found out that a local weapons related site had been selling glock full-auto selectors for a mere 90e. Too bad that they are out of stock and there will be probably newer be new ones built, so I'm happy to get the blueprints. It is also legal to own the switch around here as far as you don't install it on your glock.

[a3990918]

It is also legal to own the switch around here as far as you don't install it on your glock.
Where are you located?

[iHME]

Where are you located?
Finland. Tough it is getting harder and harder to get a firearms license at the more crowded areas (around the capital city). It became much harder for young persons like me after pekka-eric auvinen pulled that killing spree at jokela high school (9 dead, including himself, principal, school nurse and other ware just at the wrong place at the wrong time). The age limit rose from 15 years to 18 years. Also you need a recommendation from two gun owner that "you can be trusted with a gun". You'll also need a "carrying permit" (note that this is has nothing to do with the US concealed carry, cops will arest or shoot you if you carry even a air soft toy on a public place, or at least give you a fine or speech)and a permit to boy the gun in the first place, so no impulse gun shopping. On the bright side it seems that suppressors will stay license free.
I hope I didn't confuse you :)

[a3990918]

Finland. cops will arest or shoot you if you carry even a air soft toy on a public place,
Damn, now that's harsh!!!:eek:

On the bright side it seems that suppressors will stay license free.
What about AOWs (Any other weapons) such as short barreled rifles, cane guns, pen guns etc? How about Full-Auto?

[iHME]

What about AOWs (Any other weapons) such as short barreled rifles, cane guns, pen guns etc? How about Full-Auto?

You need to acuire a permission to for example to modify a rifle to use a shorter barrel or similar. Varying from the type of modification it is very easy or hellishly hard to get the permission. If one would want to install a folding stock (if the gun is under the minimum length while the stock is folded) one would get a permission for modifying the gun with the stock (50e fee). Then after modification the gun is needed to be sent to police for testing. There is no such class as short barreled rifle (SBR) there is only one class the "Other Weapon".
As for full-auto, it is nearly im possible to get, even the police uses semi-auto mp5 smg's. Tough the legend tells that if you let the big man in the blue jump suit to pound you to the "b-floor" you just might get lucky ;)

I don't know about cane or pen guns, maybe some collectors can have them.
I also want to note that Finland has the worlds 3rd most fire arms per capita, after the USA and Yemen. Suprisingly we have the maximum of 1 to 5 gun related crimes a year. And most of these are people shooting while drunk.

One semi-recent "crime" was that some teenager insulted a skinheads girlfriend
in a shopping mall, one should note that the skinhead was right beside his girl.
Either this kid was extremely stupid or he thought that he could not do anything with all those people around. Just imagine that little shits face when the skinhead pulled a pistol from his sleeve. :D Luckily for him (the little shit) he missed. He was caught two days later.

And I should note that the claim about getting shot doesn't mean fatally and you will be warned (not in the form of gun shots). There is very strict rules regarding the use of fire arms for the police. The last time someone was shot by a police was when some skitsofrenic stabbed a ~80 years old Belgian turist to death while he was celebrating his 50th anniversary with his wife. Tuff luck I'd say.
The stabber was shot to leg while he attempted to attack the police officer.
If had killed the attacker before he could have stabbed him he would be in jail right now for homicide.


I hope that I didn't confuce you even more :rolleyes:

[joffe]

Just a small/big caveat here. I know someone who added a selector to his Glock. The rate of fire was incredible and the spring was way too weak and the slide too light. The Glock was literally ripped apart. And he suffered some rather nasty wounds in both hands (two-hand grip). Officially, he made a mistake when he was reloading.

[a3990918]

Here's some footage of my Full Auto Glock with 200 rd twin drum mag.!! :eek:

Yeah Right, in my dreams.:(

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=22791249

I couldnt afford to keep ammo for this.:p

[iHME]

Indeed if I had one of those I would be bankrupt prety fast thanks to ammo costs.