"Helping" someone lose their job.

[green beret]

A firend of mine wants to make someone lose their job, I will explain the story, from now on it will be from my friends point of view.

"I had this job with a pyro company a while ago, it took me six months of phone calls and trying but I got it. Boss "X" took me on and all was going well, however I got the impression that the boss didnt really know that much about pyro, except how to do a display, as he seemed to not want to talk about compositions burn rates etc, and even admitted he dosent know or care whats in them, he just orders the effects and colours.
So, boss "X" runs another business, and person "Y" starts working in this other business of his, person "Y" is known (unfortunately) by me although I dont like him one bit. One day, I was offerred work with the boss, but couldnt make it, so for some reason he gives the work to "Y". Before I knew it person "Y" and his girlfriend were going out for dinner with this boss, visiting his parents together etc. and I was never offered work again. This is for a number of reasons, I feel I had a more in depth knowlege of pyro than the boss, he was threatened by this, also the boss was sick, telling me stories of how he chatted up 13 year olds (he is mid 40's) and I wouldnt go along with it and congratulate him, person "Y" would have.
Person "Y" knows nothing about pyro, and knows I loved this job, he just wants to emulate me because he is nothing and never will be, he is searching for something to be, when I got a liscence in something, he was saying, "yeah I'm gonna get my liscence in that too cos I like that work", there are other things also. "Y" doesnt even qualify to be a kewl, he dosent even have that level of "ahem" knowlege.
So I want to make sure he loses his pyro job. Unfortunately It was not my doing that I know "Y", and cant be rid of him."

Normally I wouldnt bother posting anything like this, but my friend has been driven to his limit by the idiocy of others, he needs to deal with this by taking away "Y's" job in pyro.
Some Ideas have been thought up on how to do this, but no really "sure fire" one has come up.
Although my friend did think of getting someone to ring boss "X", and asking to speak with person "Y" saying that he had been offered some cheap fireworks by "Y", and was given "X's" phone number.

Anyhow, please dont flame me for posting this, normally my friend would deal with it himself, if you are a pyro I'm sure you could feel my friends frustration.
Thanks all.

[ossassin]

Well, it's the rat race. What did he expect? I doubt that there's much that your friend can do, since boss "X" seems to like person "Y" personally. A mutual affection is much harder to destroy than a simple employment. My advice would be to seek work at a different company. The one in question seems to be a lost cause.

[green beret]

Thats the problem, there are no other companies around the area, this one has the whole area within a six hours drive radius, its because he has contracts with all the clients, and he is a sub-contractor himself, so any other work in the area that the big company gets, he does it and gets a cut of the price. My friend dosent want the job back, he just wants this person to pay, and suffer. My friend will probably just have to let this go, but he dosent do that, he never lets someone walk all over him without getting some payback. It may seem trivial, but see it from my friends point of view.

[xyz]

Get someone to ring boss X about the bomb that person Y is building for them, use an arab accent if possible .:)

[mixojoe]

Over here in Aust, we can get sacked for being sent porn over the net to a work email, it is that simple. Even if we do not know who, what, when, where and why it came :)

[bobo]

if he doesn't know one bit about pyro as you say, you set up a 'business' yourself. You sell him some cheap stuff that sucks for pyro or is simply low quality. If he's the sucker you think he is, he will be baited and put together shitty fireworks. looks like boss x deserves to lose his company too.

If you're really evil, you make them have an accident because there just happened to be some dangerous composition in the shed. And who the hell uses Armstrongs mixture for rocket fuel anyway?

Or, you plant some HE's in the compound, and start to advertize pentaerythritol, hexamine and fuming nitric acid etc. from this company. Never mind it ain't there, if the cops come they will find whatever you put there...

[krimmie]

{One day, I was offerred work with the boss, but couldnt make it, so for some reason he gives the work to "Y". Before I knew it person "Y" and his girlfriend were going out for dinner with this boss, visiting his parents together etc. and I was never offered work again.}

It appears the boss values dependability over knowledge. I'd put this in the "lost opportunity" folder and work harder at getting what you want. Try concentrating on taking the girlfriend away!

[Bert]

Go start your own company. The best revenge is living well.

[Flake2m]

Since SWIM is after "Y's" job SWIm could try blackmailing "X". Since "X" chats up 13yr olds you could try setting him up so what he says about the 13yrs is potential evidence. Make sure SWIM records it. then on a nice quiet day approuch "X" and ask him for "Y's" job SWIM should have had above average effort and attitude the past week or fortnight, for the tape needs to be a trump card. If he says no then pull out the tape.

The other option using legitimate means is to go to work earlier, stay back more and basically work like a slave for a few months hopefully the boss well recognise SWIMs efforts and then SWIM might be able to take "Y's" job from him.

[T_Pyro]

From what I've read about licenses issued to fireworks companies, the license entitles the factory to random inspections without prior intimation by the concerned authorities. Perhaps during some such inspection, they could find some minor flaw in the factory which could lead to the cancelation of the license. The "minor flaw" could be anything from insufficient distance between the chlorate and fuel storage areas, insufficient fire safety precautions, etc. And since the boss is a dullard, would he know all such stipulations covered by the license clause?

[A-BOMB]

Break Ys fingers and toes? he won't be doing anything for awhile. Or if he still has access to Xs
business have him go had change some labels around on some containers of chems like on the chlorate and red pholosurus cans? armstrongs.

[Anthony]

Some of the suggestions here could result in serious jail time for your friend. Really worth it?

Sounds like your friend just plain lost out. "Person Y" sounds like a turd, but hasn't specifically done anything to your friend.

If I were him, I wouldn't waste time on losers, and would forget about both of them.

[YayItGoBoom!]

Yes, unfortunately, often it is not how much one knows, but who one knows, and how many people one knows, that matters. This happened to my father, he was out of work due to a contract being broken and revised, and he wouldn't have anything with it. With a few phone calls, he was back to work within a week.

[green beret]

Thanks all, there are some very interesting ideas there, I didnt clarify something, the boss dosent have a factory, he orders the pyro from a supplier. My friend will do something though, although he dosent want to bother with some loser anymore. Cheers though guys.