Roguesci FTP: 65.25.15.188

[megalomania]

The (un)Official Forum FTP is alive and well. Any person may upload to the FTP by logging in as anonymous. There are no ratios and no user accounts.

The address is:
ftp://65.25.15.188

Rules for the FTP:
1) Do NOT hammer the site. Hammering will get your IP blocked. I suggest one connection attempt every 1 minute or more.
2) No more than 2 connections per IP accepted. There are only so many slots available, so don't take one away from other people.
3) No duplicate files. Please see the index before uploading something to make sure it is not already up. You won't get banned for uploading anything, if I did that nobody would upload anything at all. Just try to observe common courtesy.
4) All files are to go into the main FTP folder, not a sub folder. Sub folders are now locked, and it is preferred you do not create a folder of your own unless you have a large number of related files. For example if you have 20 split rars it is best to make a subfolder.

If there are any problems with the FTP site, please post them here. If anyone downloads a bad file, finds a dupe file, or a file that is misrepresented please report it here so it can be deleted.

EDIT: changed address information to 65.25.15.188

[R_Chemist]

THANK YOU :)

Bad files; ftp://65.25.17.68/chemistry/Modern%20Organocopper%20Chemistry/ 1c, 3a, 3breal, 7b, 9,

[PTLIS]

/appz/Alcohol120_1.9.2.1705_retail_Incl_KEY.rar is a corrupted dupe of /appz/Alcohol120_1.9.2.1705_retail_Incl_KEY - controlphreak.rar

Additionally there seems to be a problem wher 1 in every 2 attempts to connect to the FTP fails because I can't get a directory listing.

[zeocrash]

I need a new passoword I lost my old one when I reformatted my pc

[akinrog]

I need a new passoword I lost my old one when I reformatted my pc
Sir, I believe you are unaware that the FTP password file is on the new FTP at root directory. You may retrieve your password from there. But I must emphasize the fact that I cannot login with my username and password but anonymous login is OK. Regards

[nbk2000]

So why is it a person can click on the link and get on with IE6, but not with cuteFTP or SmartFTP?

[nbk2000]

Has anyone been able to burn the Brittanica Collection DVD ISO? I haven't. :(

[grendel23]

BulletProof FTP works fine for me.

[akinrog]

Has anyone been able to burn the Brittanica Collection DVD ISO? I haven't. :(

I managed it sir. However, Winrar is sometimes a bitch to give corruption error. After a few try I managed to extract images and burn them on DVD and even managed to install it. :)

[zeocrash]

FTP password file is on the new FTP at root directory

don't i need download access to access this, i don't believe anonymous logon has this.

[grendel23]

That file has apparently been deleted, which is a good thing as some of the e-mail addresses may not have been intended for public dissemination.
Now that those user names and passwords have been compromised, new ones would need to be distributed to start up user accounts again, if Mega decided to do so.

[FUTI]

This is from diferent post I made, but...Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia I downloaded seems to be corrupted file. It is valid rar archive but gives nothing after burning the CD. Did anyone had same problem? Can someone check that file or can the person who uploaded file try to make a copy of original CD again? Does anyone remove corrupted files? Thanks guys.
The FTP runs very well from mine point of view!:D

[simply RED]

I may say... this is the greatest ftp till now...
Great work!!!

[Rhadon]

This is from diferent post I made, but...Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia I downloaded seems to be corrupted file. I remember that there was a problem with that image when you burn it with certain programs. With some it works, with others it doesn't. Unfortunately I can't remember which program you need to use, so you have to experiment a bit using CD-RWs if your CD writer can handle these.

Perhaps using a CD image extractor like ISObuster will work. Images which cannot be extracted with ISObuster can still be extracted using CDmage in some cases.

[festergrump]

I think people are missing Mega's point in starting this thread. Read it 10 times if you have to. I cannot login as festergrump, either. It's no longer important for me to do this, get it?

Thanks once again, Mega.

NBK, Smart FTP works just fine for me. I'm using the free download version of 1.0.

On a side note, I'd like to ask folks who upload stuff to be kind enough to include a bit about what the file is. (ie: a file entitled A01.pdf and is 6.7 mb in size is not really going to be of interest at first glance <especially to dialupers as myself>). Just right-click on the file and change the name to something descriptive, and don't forget to include the .pdf or whatever file type it is before you upload it.

Whoever upped "A Clockwork Orange.pdf", a big thank you goes out to you, even though it's not exactly topic in character of the FTP. I've only owned a copy of the book twice and Stanley Kubrick's version on video three times, yet have none of these to read or view to date... (the company I used to keep... *sigh*). I only hope the pdf version is complete.

[megalomania]

The Britanica DVD works good. I had to download and install the trial version of MagicISO to burn the particular file, but it is quite simple to use.

The Kirk-Othmer file does work, I have installed it before, but I used Daemon tools (a virtual CD drive) to do it.

[nbk2000]

Yeah...well...the brittanica DVD ISO is the one thing that got lost because I had to take it off the backup drive to make room for burning the ISO, and the ISO didn't work...and then the laptop (you know the rest:()

[NoltaiR]

I would just like to have access to the ftp... my email address is noltair@yahoo.com if you have a chance... thanks.

[xyz]

Does nobody get it?

THERE ARE NO USER ACCOUNTS ANY MORE!!!

Anyone can access the FTP and download/upload as much as they like of whatever they like (so long as it's within the "rules", i.e. no porn etc), so stop asking Mega for user accounts.

Mods: Sorry if this should have been left to you to say, but I felt I should point it out before any more people came along asking for accounts.

[Boomer]

I could not verify this (adobe broke today), but the blasters training manual seems to be duped:

"Blasters_Training.pdf" vs. "The Blasters Training Manual -uploaded by efraim_barkbit.pdf"

Also : "Explosives explained.pdf" vs. "Explosives_explained.pdf"

And "improvised primary explosives -Efraim_barkbit.PDF" vs. "Improvised_Primary_Explosives.pdf"

and perhaps "Ball mill, by wouter visser.mht" vs. "Ball mill, English.mht" - if one is the translation, why are they the same size to the bit?

(All found in the explosives folder)

Hope this was helpfull and no false alarm. And Many Thanks Mega! :)

[MMIV]

Hi, mega I found that the file "Backyard Rocketry.PDF" is missing page 60-65.

thanx

[zambozan]

Hallo to all,

I appreciate (like everybody, I hope) the FTP free for everyone and I hope that this will make people think to donate for roguesci defense fund but,
I must report that the FTP is often busy.
Now, I've post this for know if this happens only on my pc or in others too.
I receive a message like this:
220 Rogue Science (un)official FTP Server v2.0 ready to go
421 server too busy at the moment, please try later.
Because sometimes servers have problems and for this, writes wrong messages, I ask if this is one of sayed cases.
I think no, but I ask. And how much users slots has the server?

Thanx for help.

Regards, zambozan

[zeocrash]

bah, I'm trying to upload a pdf for my post about the ned of the oil age and every time I try and log onto the ftp I get a nice little message telling me that there are too many users on there, surely there can't be too many users on all the time. Someone help

[Guerilla]

I haven't been able to connect to the ftp for days either..

[aikon]

Same problem as zeocrash. How many users are allowed to access at the same time?

[FUTI]

hell it looks like someone start using some downloading software or something since last weekend I can't get near FTP at all!:(

That sucks...but I couldn't upload anything even before that!

[megalomania]

Heh, the FTP is packed! The max is 20 I gather.

[herminiano]

But the problem isn't "too many users". Is worst!! If any opportunist of this time ("anonymous ftp") just upload something good...............,. But the reality is a lot of connections that only "download" without compromise with other people. People that "working hard" for the ftp site. I know that the work of manage the ftp site is bored and very hard. But. i ask: "what is better? full irrestrict access or a policy abouts accounts?"

If i can help, just email me.

greetings.

[jimmyboy]

this is sad to say - but accounts/passwords need to be made on the new ftp -- noone is contributing anymore - just leeching and leeching - i have nothing against free info but there has to be a line drawn somewhere

[aikon]

As promised I've uploaded the german book "Das Knallquecksilber und andere Sprengstoffe". I had to resume the upload but I hope that the file works correctly. Please give a respone here if the file is corrupt.

[Anthony]

This is getting silly. The FTP is probably packed out with people who aren't even members of this forum. I wouldn't be surprised if we suddenly see lots of adverts for E&W info CDs for sale on ebay, chat forums etc.

Hold on, I think my transfer speed may hit 2Kb/sec soon! I'm still reeling from the shock of it passing the 1K mark ;)

[aikon]

I agree with Anthony. What was wrong with the old password protected system? I know that information should be free and everybody should have access to information. In this case it would be better to spread the knowledge via filesharing programs such as emule etc. The upload moral has suffered since the ftp returned and the user limitation is the wrong way to keep the ftp working. This limitation penalizes all forum members who constantly contribute to the ftp but aren't able to download or even access the site. If it's possible to log on you're confronted with an unbelievable slow download speed. It's not my aim to keep people away from the source but in the first place it should be a ftp for the RS forum members.

[herminiano]

I agree with Jimmyboy, Aikon & Antony. But, we can help to megalomania with something in particular?. Remember guys..........Time and effort are not cheap in thos world. And, with this ftp site all of we are happy.............

In this weekend i will upload the second part of
"Laser Sights and Night Vision Devices - Duncan Long - Paladin Press"

Bye everybody!

[MMIV]

Iam interested about that idea where Mega could sell the ftp files on a set of dvds/cds for about eg. $100US?. Then this money could go towards mantaining the E&W forum. Although keep the ftp on the web, so updates can be made.

[Anthony]

Anyone else been able to connect to the FTP for the past 2-3 days? I keep getting "connect failure" with WSFTP.

[Sarevok]

I am unable to connect too, Anthony. I use Cute FTP and I think the problem is with the FTP, not with the program.

To solve the problems relating to people being unable to connect to the FTP or being able to connect but having low download/upload speeds, I propose restriction of access to the FTP in the following way:

1) People ask megalomania for an account. He chooses to give or not the account. When he gives and account, he also gives a user number for the person (1, 2, 3, ...).
2) The maximum number of people able to use the FTP simultaneously without making download/upload speeds too slow is determined. Let's suppose this number is 10.
3) The first week (or any other period of time), users 1-10 can use the FTP with their accounts. Other persons can't log in and those who don't have an account can't log in.
4) The second week, persons 11-20 can use the FTP with their accounts. Other persons can't log in and those who don't have an account can't log in. And so on, until users 1-10 use the FTP again.

Thus everybody could use the FTP (which doesn't happen in the old system), with reasonable download/upload speeds and no connection problems (which doesn't happen in the new system).

Sorry if this is not a good idea.

[Bigfoot]

Has anyone tried BitTorrent?
I messed about with it last spring, works good. Download speed a function of your upload speed. If anyone sets up a BitTorrent server, please write up instructions, so others of us can follow suit. I am posessed of numerous files, and wish to share.

[MMIV]

i am trying to connect to the ftp for about few days but keep getting "connection timed out" using internet explorer.

[megalomania]

The FTP will be down for a few days...

There is a bittorrent server for the Forum :) http://www.roguesci.org/torrent/mystats.php I am sure there is a thread about this somewhere...

[eclectic]

Megalomania, If you could point me to a good copy of volume 1, I'll share it out on emule so everyone else can complete ther copy. (I know of no other way to get in touch with you other than posting a reply)

[eclectic]

Torrents only work if someone is sharing to begin with. There are currently 57 people on emule waiting for the remaining 60% of volume 1. One complete copy would immediately turn into 50 or so sources.

[eclectic]

Oh great and powerful OZ! Please hear my plea, I most humbly beseech thee. I would like to share "Handbook of Preparative Inorganic Chemistry, volume 1" with all the people on emule patiently waiting for the remaining 60%. I've been connected with BitTorrent for more than 17 hours, but someone at your end needs to make the file available to start the ball rolling. I can send you a screenshot of emule and BitTorrent waiting on my machine if I have an email address to send an attachment to.

[FUTI]

First I want to say that I finally make Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia work for me, and many thatnks to all that helped.

Second the fact that FTP is down made me try the BitTornado and I can't download anything...some hint please.

BTW I recieved a strange page few times I tried to approach start page. I tried then wayback machine and that worked but only for pages long before iDefence attack. I got idea this was similar one. Hell they manage to post the gay porno page on chem lab section in wayback machine.

And shortly after this attempt sudenly I could access the forum?! What was going on these days?

[akinrog]

Dear Mega,
I have an idea. I hope you forgive me suggesting something to you!

What about using FTP only for uploading and giving access to only mods/senior members etc. and using torrents network for downloading. I believe this method shall be more efficient than entirely open FTP. Since you have alread had a torrent tracker here, you may add all and any files' torrent to your tracker and then everybody will be happy. I obtain really enormous download speeds (up to 100 kb/s) from Torrent networks.

This shall both make you happy since it allows you to obtain all files from uploaders and make us happy since we can download from torrent networks any file we deem fit and proper. Regards

[megalomania]

Attention one and all! The FTP is back with a slight modification to the IP address. It is now 65.25.14.187 port 21. Anonymous access is enabled for one and all. I will formalize this info on the page headings and such once I hear the site is working.

Thank you for the suggestion, akinrog, that is rather a good idea. The question remains, do we make a torrent of each individual file or group the files by subject. Individual files would be a pain to make, and to maintain as an active torrent, but a grouped file would be harder on our dialup members. It would be nice if we had a cadre of Forum volunteers who would keep seeding the torrents.

The FTP has grown to the point where 95% of all the files worth uploading have already been uploaded. You have scoured the web by the thousands and reaped tremendous rewards for the Rogue Science community by collecting one of the greatest arsenals of knowledge of its kind on the Internet. Now is the difficult time of convincing the members to upload that last 5%. Requiring ratioed accounts only ensures a continual flow of dupe files. Limiting access to senior members only stifles the flow of this knowledge when it desperately needs to get out there.

I have not forgotten my commitment to spread as much knowledge as possible in the face of the iDefenseless terrorist attack upon our freedom. I will make sure each and every file on the FTP can be obtained by any citizen. Bittorrent is perhaps the best thing that could have happened for our community. Its vast potential to distribute massive amounts of bandwidth without a central host to pay for it all is a godsend.

You in turn, loyal members, must do your part. The FTP is only as strong as the files uploaded to it. We need that last 5% of knowledge. Leave no stone unturned as you search for the best scientific and technical knowledge related to The Forum. Beg, borrow, or steal as many technical books as you can and scan them. Together we can make The Forum the greatest repository of scientific knowledge freely available to the masses.

[akinrog]

The question remains, do we make a torrent of each individual file or group the files by subject.

Sir instead of compressing files into a single file, I strongly recommend creating torrents of directories. In this manner, the downloader may set priority of the files s/he is downloading and may also see what s/he is downloading.

For example I downloaded Adobe CS and I did not need the cracks file and simply omitted that part from download. Very neat!

However there might be one important concern regarding seeding directories. Should you add new files to directories, either the newly added files shall not be reflected in torrent or it shall disrupt the authenticity of the torrent hash value. In order to preclude such problem, you may need to create new folders/directories with the same name but appended with numbers.

E.g. You have seeded the appz directory, and some files is added to appz, you simply create an appz 2 directory and move that files to appz 2 directory and create torrent thereof and seed it accordingly.

I believe this method shall be more feasible than the original method.

Alternatively you may create torrents of single files and add those torrents to your tracker. Although this might be troublesome (not with regard to creating torrents but adding torrents to tracker), it might be more efficient.

I am using Azeurus, a Java based client and runs very neatly but you need to download JRE (Java Runtime Environment) from Sun's web site. Otherwise the client simply will NOT run!...

In addition, you shall be sharing the responsibility of spreading the knowledge with the members/downloaders and decreasing your band with demand considerably.

As for the seeding, I am using the following strategy: Before removing the seeds from my client I am waiting since the seed is uploaded at least thrice! In this manner somebody else may also be able to download the file without disappearing from the network.

I understand your concerns very much. Since there are a lot of files and files are not very well organized, you think it is wrong to share it unless the library is organized. I believe you'd better seed them as is. Since I believe your time is precious and a remote user cannot organize the files properly, due to bandwidth restrictions.

Regards,

[Joeychemist]

Mr. Mega sir

The ftp seems to be working just fine, it was a little slow connecting but that was probably because it was busy. I just downloaded a few files for reading and they worked perfect. I haven’t tried to upload anything yet but I do have a very large file called a collection of pyrotechnic compositions. The file contains different, flash powders, rocket propellants, colored smoke and just about every other pyrotechnic composition you could think of, the file is the product of hundreds of people’s contributions. I would love to upload this to the ftp but I am not quite sure how to do so. Could someone explain how I would go about uploading something to the ftp. :confused:

[aikon]

...Could someone explain how I would go about uploading something to the ftp.

1. Get a ftp client like 'CuteFtp' or 'SmartFtp'. You can get a free copy of the last one at: http://www.smartftp.com/

2. Insert the ftp adress in your client an click connect

3. A right mouse click opens a menu. Select 'upload', choose the files from your harddrive you want to upload and press 'ok'

That's it.

[charger]

Has the ftp been closed to the general public now? Every time I try to access it, I get a message saying the ftp doesnt support annonymus logins and that I need a username and password. Are we back to names and passwords again?

[megalomania]

Works fine for me with anon access. Are you sure you are using the updated address? I still need to change the link on the page headers...

[xyz]

I just tried the new address and it's not working for me, an attempted anonymous logon at 65.25.14.187 on port 21 using CuteFTP gives me that annoying "Can't connect to remote server. Socket error = #10060" message.

[thegman]

Its not working for me either...

I wanna upload some REALLY good instruction Krav Maga videos (4 videos, 700 mega each) But I need the ftp working for a week or 2 (9 kb/s upload).

[thegman]

Its not working for me either...

I wanna upload some REALLY good instruction Krav Maga videos (4 videos, 700 mega each) But I need the ftp working for a week or 2 (9 kb/s upload).

EDIT:

Is someone working on that? Or is there something I need to do in order to connect? Cause I really wanna upload this as soon as possible.

BTW, if anyone want this, you can find them, and I also share them, on Emule, just write "krav maga", and download tapes 1-4.

[Isotoxin]

NBK and other admins/mods:

I can't seem to email you nor PM you so I will have to speak here. Based on other members posts the FTP server is unlikely to work for me(and I tried it and I can't connect) Right now the only file I am very interested in is the current RTPB PDF

If you can email me the current RTPB as an attachment I would be very thankfull

rwtec5 AT ispwest.com

Also it seems the new FTP system is out of wack - now that everyone can get to it nobody can. Besides the people that can't bother to get an account are unlikely to be the people that we need to get the info to incase Bad Things(TM) happen

[megalomania]

The FTP address is now at ftp://192.168.1.100 due to the server being placed on a network. Enjoy.

I have updated this thread, and the Forum headers to reflect the new address.

[Ropik]

I am getting "Socket error: no connection" on both new and old adress.

[SweNMFan]

Well only people on the same network as you Mega can access that ip as is in the Private class C network. Almost as fun as writing ftp://127.0.0.1

[megalomania]

Well no wonder I could not access the FTP. I just assumed it was down for a bit of maintanence at the time... He tells me the new FTP address is ftp://65.25.15.188

I will update the thread and header accordingly.

[jelly]

mega, could you create a new ftp index file, please?

[rational611]

Is the ftp up and working? I have been unable to connect to it since the last few days.

[xyz]

I just got an "Invalid username and password" message when I treid to connect. Are we going back to having accounts instead of public access? Or is this just an error (the link to the FTP still says "Access is anonymous and free for all")?

[tdog49]

It was working fine all week, but now says "no anonymous access allowed"

[cyclonite4]

I tried opening the FTP in mozilla, got this error msg: "503, no ANONYMOUS access allowed"
Last night however, I only couldn't access the server because too many people were already connected. Have you decided to go back to accounts. Since I've reached the 10 post minimum that was required back when accounts were used, may I have an FTP account if accounts are being used? Email: cyclonite4@fastmail.fm

[X-Wulf]

Yip sounds familiar, been trying to connect to the ftp (through its many incarnations) for quite a while now (with multiple clients ... bulletproof, cute, etc., even ie *shudder*) all without any success.
All I get is the usual "no ANONYMOUS access allowed" or similar, depending on the client. Not even my old ftp username and password work *sigh*

Perhaps a username/password system should be implemented, perhaps not so strict as previously (as this would reduce overall access to the information ... the very point of the ftp), but at the very least a simple registration system. This way at least we'll be able to tell who's actually contributing and who's just a wholesale leecher!

Just my 2 cents worth though ...

[festergrump]

220 Serv-U FTP Server v5.0 for WinSock ready...
USER anonymous
331 User name okay, please send complete E-mail address as password.
PASS (hidden)
530 Sorry, no ANONYMOUS access allowed.


It was working for me just as soon as Mega posted about the new addy being 65.25.15.188 until Tuesday when I couldn't get on because of too many users. Now a new error for me.

[megalomania]

Sorry chaps, the free ride is over. No more anon access. We will be going to a username/password system shortly to weed out the leechers. The FTP addy will also be changing again in a few days as the system is switched to a new machine or something....

A signup form is in the works.

[Silentnite]

Is the torrent also going to start up again? Just wondering. Because that could put a stop to leeching too. Unless you consider us dialup users leechers. I would, but Im envious of broadband....
Anyways. Bravo Megalomania. I think its a great idea. But I like signing up for things.

[megalomania]

I stand corrected, anon access is open...

[X-Wulf]

Anonymous access seems to be available now, but it's back to the credit system which, as has already been mentioned, will simply result in clones/copies of the larger files ... *sigh*.
Good to hear that a new reg system is in the works though, hopefully it'll help keep the kewl leechers at bay for a while.

[akinrog]

Mega Sir,
It seems that the permission of subfolders are restricted. Regards

[john_smith]

Err...some folders (explosives, weapons and possibly some more) are gone?!

[WMD]

Anonymous access seems to be available now, but it's back to the credit system which, as has already been mentioned, will simply result in clones/copies of the larger files ... *sigh*.
Not exactly, as it's counting number of files and not file size right now. This just resulted in some punk uploading ~a dozen pictures. I'd prefer a userid/password-system as well, unless it's the same as last time where my application apparently wasn't even processed though I had the required post count and was regularly scanning and uploading new books.

[s25ofa0tu]

Well it now appears that if you're in there with an anon account you cant download things because the file is not there but i presume this is permisions.Meg do you mind me asking how will the sign up form work?Will you have to have certain files or what,Maybe if you said in the sign up forum what files you had access to and get a temp upload only account and then if you up the files and they work you get a full account?

[cyclonite4]

I can access the FTP now... but can't download anything. Are we going by the levelled UPL/DL system?

I reckon it would be best to have user/password access so that people uploading crap can be identified.

[megalomania]

Would whoever uploaded the 14 files Chem_of_Drugs_and_Poisons_1.pdf through Chem_of_Drugs_and_Poisons_15.pdf please upload Chem_of_Drugs_and_Poisons_2.pdf as it is missing from the group, thanks.

[thegman]

Mega, is it safe for me to upload without cutting me in the middle?

[akinrog]

Dear Mega,
When I try to download from chemistry folder I receive the following error message and cannot download the file
Status: Starting download of /chemistry/The Merck Index 13th edition_upped_by_Niles.iso
Command: CWD /chemistry/
Response: 250 Directory changed to /chemistry
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/chemistry" is current directory.
Command: TYPE I
Response: 200 Type set to I.
Command: PORT xxxx
Response: 200 PORT Command successful.
Command: RETR The Merck Index 13th edition_upped_by_Niles.iso
Response: 550 Permission denied.
Error: Download failed

I think download permission is not set for some folders. I would be very grateful if you attend to it. Regards

P.S. BTW I have got a file called "[Aviation] [Rolls Royce] The Jet Engine [found via www.FileDonkey.com].pdf". Do you need it or does FTP have it?

[jelly]

The server doesn't replace the date of uploaded files by the current (system) date any more.
It will be not easy to find the recent uploads among hundreds of files.

[Gedi]

Hello,

I found this great site while looking for a user manual for the AK-74. I connected to the FPT but was only able to download from the root directory. I tried to download from the weapons folder but got permission denied.

Thank you

[teshilo]

FTP dont work :( Only this
STATUS:> Resolving host name 65.25.15.188.
STATUS:> Host name 65.25.15.188 resolved: ip = 65.25.15.188.
STATUS:> Getting listing "/"...
STATUS:> Connecting to ftp server 65.25.15.188:21 (ip = 65.25.15.188)...
STATUS:> Socket connected. Waiting for welcome message...
ERROR:> Control connection closed.
STATUS:> Waiting 30 seconds...
STATUS:> ============== Attempt #1 ==============
STATUS:> Connecting to ftp server 65.25.15.188:21 (ip = 65.25.15.188)...
STATUS:> Socket connected. Waiting for welcome message...
ERROR:> Control connection closed.
and new ....

[megalomania]

It's a game of beat the clock... Anonymous access has been denied to all folders, except for the root. All new uploads go into the root. All of the files will soon be organized in their proper category, upon which they will not be downloadable via anon access.

Hence the game of beat the clock, download what you can before it gets organized :D

[the big k]

Hello Mega,

How does one earn access to the full FTP site?

[prodigy82]

It's a game of beat the clock... Anonymous access has been denied to all folders, except for the root. All new uploads go into the root. All of the files will soon be organized in their proper category, upon which they will not be downloadable via anon access.

Hence the game of beat the clock, download what you can before it gets organized :D

Why?

Why restrict the greatest source of information on the net?
And ppl who want access is going to have to post a certain number of posts ?
This will just create a bunch of postwhores. Who will post shit just for the sake of posting to get access !!

So.... why ?

[Natrix]

I would like access to the FTP, please add me! My address is: Nnnatrix@yahoo.se

[FUTI]

I agree with Mega no matter did my post count is high enough or not (anyway I didn't noticed that Mega stated that number of posts is limiting factor for access to FTP). If anyone try postwhoring then I assume the Mods will deal with him... I hate the idea that I can't get to the certain folders I like rigth now, but if this tactics will minimise the chance that some kewl noob find the info he doesn't understand and kill himself while trying to "realise" how does that "work" - which can get the Forum in some sort of trouble - I have no other alternatives then to agree (like someone would asked me in this despotic regime;) ). BTW what would be the way to get entry to FTP when it get organised? I still want that info...a lot!:D

[GermanNewbie]

I am a jew and jews rule! Heil Shalom. Long live the great zion. Now I must prepare for the sabbath. Ham is murder.

[The_Duke]

I am a jew and jews rule! Heil Shalom. Long live the great zion. Now I must prepare for the sabbath. Ham is murder.

You have been here a year, and have waited all this time just to say that? Why? There must be a reason? How could you say such a thing? :eek:

O well, I suppose its better you are banned anyway, what with that attitude. :mad:

I hope you don't kill yourself with a 800g batch of AP :rolleyes: :p :D

[festergrump]

He's just upset that after a year in searching the FTP he never was able to find an explosive compound that could create a shockwave large enough to make his second testicle drop.

One less moron using up bandwidth = more room for someone really interested in learning. He self-detonated here. Maybe he'll "do some more tricks" and give us all a spectacle on the news... :rolleyes:

Leave him alone and he'll go bye bye soon enough.

[tdog49]

Prodigy,
don't worry about post whores....hehe the mods are more than capable of dealing w/ that. Besides, it is very entertaining for the rest of us (watching the flaming and banning)

GermanNewbie,
well then.........
I expect some entertainment soon. I would like to thank you in advance for providing us with another banning to watch.

While I will miss free ftp access, I do understand and agree that limitations must be placed.

To all whiners (whether you have posted or just sit in front of your pc): Get a life and a job and go BUY some of these books. Its not like you cant ya know.....Amazon.com, Barnes&Noble.com, Paladin Press, University book stores...... Be appreciative of what leeching we were allowed to do and now take some iniative to contribute or complete your collection. A lot of people have put a lot of work into scanning some very big books and then sharing them w/o any reward. Quit whining, say thank you and shut up.

[GermanNewbie]

kick me out - no problem

I have sex with gay jews and niggers!!

And neither of my testicles have dropped, so there.

I`ll be back next Haunnaka!!!

[FUTI]

Sometimes I think that these guys are some kind of imaginary caracters that mods made to amuse themself. I wonder is it posible to write a program that would occasionally make some random acts of stupidity like this. Farewell to who ever you are...you just became a mods tamagotchi in the game who will kill it first .

[megalomania]

You misunderstand. Access has been restricted as a motivational tool to get the files organized. As people leech the files I try and hurry up and organize them. Great fun is had by all.

QUite soon I will be installing the new torrent tracker, and I hope it works this time. Then all the files will be up for grabs via bittorrent. The FTP will remain open for uploads of new content. I could not get the torrent tracker to integrate with the board user database quite the way I wanted. Actually I think torrent trader software is just not quite up to the snuff. Anyway, for the time being I will open an independant torrent tracker until I can get the Forum integrated tracker to work.

What this means for members is you will have to sign up on the new tracker in order to get the torrents rather than using your existing Forum username details. It's a hassle I know, but it is better than nothing. Eventually the Forum tracker will work and your Forum membership will automaticially entitle you to use the tracker.

[akinrog]

Then all the files will be up for grabs via bittorrent. The FTP will remain open for uploads of new content. I could not get the torrent tracker to integrate with the board user database quite the way I wanted.
Sir,
I am glad you adopted the torrent approach. However I must state a downside of torrent network. If you seed too much torrents then you might not download anything you like via torrent network (since your bandwidth shall be consumed up). In addition, I would be glad if you do not compress the files into single compressed files, instead creating torrents of folders are much more feasible (since downloaders can choose to download specific files and ignore others). But there is a downside of this, if you add a new file to the folder after creating its torrent, it might disrupt integrity of the torrent or the newly added file shall not appear in the torrent. Then you better add newly uploaded files to another folder and seed that when complete.

[megalomania]

Oh Darkdontay... The file "The Poor Man's RPG" on the FTP is incomplete. If you would, please reupload the file.

akinrog, I will see about making the torrents to uncompressed archives. I never used a torrent downloader that allowed to pick and choose, so it was never an issue for me before. Now I do, so it is a wise option since some of these archives can be quite huge.

Also, the same software that allows one to pick and choose what torrents to download can limit the number of peers and upload speed. No need to worry about bandwidth hogging.

[Corona]

I've got "Poor Man's RPG" and am trying my level best to send it upstairs right now but it seems I've got a fight on my hands.

When its done, please have a look. Around 6.3 MB.

[tom haggen]

I don't know if I'm just a dumbass but I haven't been able to conncet to the FTP for weeks. If I could sign up for an account that would be awesome. I might have some informational items worth uploading so I'm not a leecher.

[festergrump]

Mega, I uploaded "Poor Man's RPG". Never heard that you got a working copy yet so it's up there and is the complete RAR file. If there's any problems with it let me know and I'll upload the 4 PDFs individually in an uncompressed form. (BTW, I really lost on the "Beat the Clock" game. Wanna play again? lol. You're FAST, I'll give you that!) :)

Tom Haggen, you ought to have no problem logging on to the FTP now. I got on with dial-up access (I, too, have not been able to even login in some time). Upload away...

[tom haggen]

Ok I stand corrected. This is however, the first time I have been able to log on in a few months. I just went out and bought I copy of TiHKAL if you guys want me to up load some tryptamine syntheses. I know this site is weapons oriented but you guys have almost every damm weapons book in the book. :p

EDIT: Ok you guys have TiHKAL too, well if anything is missing let me know.

[Silentnite]

I also must be a dumbass. I have been able to access before, but now it denies my password, albeit not my username. Anyone else having this problem?

EDIT: Yes, apparently we are still using the anonymous access. :rolleyes: I should change that to 'I AM a dumbass'. I apologize.

[akinrog]

I also must be a dumbass. I have been able to access before, but now it denies my password, albeit not my username. Anyone else having this problem?

Since the FTP is anonymoous? You don't need any user name and password just use anonymous access with a good FTP client.

[chinhtuan]

I would like access to the FTP, please add me! My steamload account name is Chinhtuan

Thanks

[festergrump]

Mega,

May I do the honors this time? I know this dubbing of members to the FTP is normally reserved by higher ranking members than myself, but it's sometimes a dream of mine to be at the reins and perform such an honorable and decorated ceremonial procedure... (besides, the reading of previous posts in a thread before posting one of your own seems to be a dying habit, by MANY it seems, regardless new or old, or even if they've been away for a bit).

Do you, Sir Chinhtuan, solemnly swear to upload any and all files which would be of interest to the public of Rogue Science, and furthermore state that you will search through the countless files in many folders to ensure duplicate files of equal size and content are NOT uploaded under guise of misnamed, numbered, misleading, or non-working order to the best of your knowledge?

Do you, Sir Chinhtuan, under limits of ISP bandwidth promise to engage in the battle of seeking out knowledge which interests the public of Rogue Science, to upload said files without second thought, and to verify completion of transfer of such information and re-upload said content upon request?

If your answer is yea to these questions: I give you the equality of all standing members allowed within the hallowed chambers of the sacred FTP. I give you admittance!

Raise from your knee now and proudly receive your username and password.

Your username shall be "anonymous". Your password shall be also "anonymous".

Go promptly forth on your quest and leave no stone unturned-- no barrier or fortress untaken (with due respects paid if applicable, of course). The knowledge you bring back to this community may be that which seperates tyranny from true freedoms, that relieves pressure from the crushing hand of Big Brother, and may well draw a distinct line in the not too distant future between life and death of not only our brethren, but also the sheeple we may call our countrymen...

[Nano]

I can't download files, it says no such file or directory

[darkdontay]

Hey Meg would I be able to get a user/pass to the new ftp

as a side note I was wondering who it was that had the crappy copy of Cooking cramk with uncle fester... i was talking about it a little while ago with some friends.

[akinrog]

You don't need to check every file individually. There is an app I coded, compiled created its installation and uploaded to the forum FTP called FileLister by AkinRog.X.X.X.exe, which iterates through all files located in a folder and its subfolders and creating hashes of the files and comparing them with each other.

In addition the app records hashes, path, filenames, file sizes of all files in a database. I am keeping my files in this fashion in order to preclude presence of duplicate files. Since it is really hard to keep track of each files nearly 20 GB content, I had to create that app.

[megalomania]

The files still need to be checked manually to determine what category they go in. Also there can be a duplicate file that is slightly different but is the same book. A freeware app that checks for dupes via two different methods is used.

The most frequent dupe is a book in a zip file or a book that has been broken into individual chapters. Identical, but no file comparator will tell you that.

File comparers also do not tell you if a file is incomplete, you only find that out by opening the file.

I have a few new goodies for the FTP. I found the 2004 edition of Ullman's Encyclopedia and a copy of March's Advanced Organic Chemistry. I was actually going to scan this book over the holidays, but I never got around to it. I did, however, rack up a $20 late fee! At least I saved myself many hours of work scanning this massive tome. A copy of March's should probably be on every organic chemists bookshelf.

[teshilo]

I waqnt enter to FTP use old system
Connecting to ftp server 65.25.15.188:21 (ip = 65.25.15.188)...
STATUS:> Socket connected. Waiting for welcome message...
220 Rogue Science FTP Server
COMMAND:> USER anonymous
331 User name okay, please send complete E-mail address as password.
COMMAND:> PASS *****
230 User logged in, proceed.
STATUS:> Login successful.
COMMAND:> USER
530 Not logged in.
ERROR:> Invalid user name or password
Mega as download files from folder ? In anonymous enter action non acces

[harmony]

Hello guys. I stand with awe in front of your project.Congrats.
I have a pdf of the "Introduction to the theory of numbers" a famous mathematics book by Hardy and Wright.It is widely considered to be very good and it took me a lot of time to find it....
I see you have a mathematics folder on the ftp and i'd like to know if you'll accept this pdf.
I would also like an account if it is possible after i upload the pdf???? What info should i provide along with the name of the book????

[ossassin]

Well, I'm sure confused. I can get into the most recent FTP address given on this thread, but I don't have permission to download anything. Mega, what's all this about downloading using a "torrent tracker?" I don't know what you mean.

[Jacks Complete]

Mega, to speed the sorting, a first cut could be done.

Give the mods a username and password, allowing them to change the name of a file. That way, they could tag anything they download that was crap, duplicate, incomplete, etc., and you could delete them that much faster.

Perhaps a batch script could be written to check the integrity of zip, rar and pdf files? (Not sure how, though, I will have a think)

[Third_Rail]

Not even the root folder allows downloads, it seems.

Any word on the torrent status? That seems like a better idea.

[Ropik]

Both volumes of Fighting from the ground by Vladimir Vasiliev are on the FTP now. The upload was interrupted many times by my crappy connection, so I don't know if they aren't corrupted. Can somebody give me a feedback?

P.S.: P. A. Luty's Expedient SMG Volume II is going on the FTP right now! You can also download it from http://www.thehomegunsmith.com.

[Ropik]

Both volumes of Fighting from the ground by Vladimir Vasiliev are on the FTP now. The upload was interrupted many times by my crappy connection, so I don't know if they aren't corrupted. Can somebody give me a feedback?

P.S.: P. A. Luty's Expedient SMG Volume II is going on the FTP right now! You can also download it from http://www.thehomegunsmith.com.

[Ropik]

Both volumes of Fighting from the ground by Vladimir Vasiliev are on the FTP now. The upload was interrupted many times by my crappy connection, so I don't know if they aren't corrupted. Can somebody give me a feedback?

P.S.: P. A. Luty's Expedient SMG Volume II is going on the FTP right now! You can also download it from http://www.thehomegunsmith.com.

[nbk2000]

I've never yet been able to connect to the damn thing, either through IE or through www2ftp, since I always use public computers I don't have the option of using CuteFTP or such. :mad:

[nbk2000]

I've never yet been able to connect to the damn thing, either through IE or through www2ftp, since I always use public computers I don't have the option of using CuteFTP or such. :mad:

[nbk2000]

I've never yet been able to connect to the damn thing, either through IE or through www2ftp, since I always use public computers I don't have the option of using CuteFTP or such. :mad:

[Jacks Complete]

My top tip is, remember to turn Passive mode off! If you are behind a firewall, this means you will have to open port 23, at least temporaily, to let your traffic out, and to let the responses back in.

[Jacks Complete]

My top tip is, remember to turn Passive mode off! If you are behind a firewall, this means you will have to open port 23, at least temporaily, to let your traffic out, and to let the responses back in.

[Jacks Complete]

My top tip is, remember to turn Passive mode off! If you are behind a firewall, this means you will have to open port 23, at least temporaily, to let your traffic out, and to let the responses back in.

[Third_Rail]

I thought it was port 21? :confused:

[Third_Rail]

I thought it was port 21? :confused:

[Third_Rail]

I thought it was port 21? :confused:

[Silentnite]

The way I figured around my school computers because they have all the ports blocked is ingenius and simple:

Zone alarm. By installing the free version of the program it effectively installs over anything they have installed. So when I go to run a bit torrent client or FTP Zone alarm pops up asking me if I would like to allow this. As I do, I click yes and download away!

I dont bother now that I have always on connection, but its still fun to do just to spit in the Tech boards face.:D

[Silentnite]

The way I figured around my school computers because they have all the ports blocked is ingenius and simple:

Zone alarm. By installing the free version of the program it effectively installs over anything they have installed. So when I go to run a bit torrent client or FTP Zone alarm pops up asking me if I would like to allow this. As I do, I click yes and download away!

I dont bother now that I have always on connection, but its still fun to do just to spit in the Tech boards face.:D

[Silentnite]

The way I figured around my school computers because they have all the ports blocked is ingenius and simple:

Zone alarm. By installing the free version of the program it effectively installs over anything they have installed. So when I go to run a bit torrent client or FTP Zone alarm pops up asking me if I would like to allow this. As I do, I click yes and download away!

I dont bother now that I have always on connection, but its still fun to do just to spit in the Tech boards face.:D

[al93535]

All I get when I try to log-in with my user name and password is this:

Connecting to 65.25.15.188:21
Connected to 65.25.15.188:21 in 1.300, Waiting for Server Response
220 Rogue Science FTP Server
Host type (1): Automatic detect
USER al93535
331 User name okay, need password.
PASS (hidden)
530 Not logged in.
Reconnect failed. The connection is dead. Sorry.

But I can log-in with anonymous just fine. Whats going on with that?

Edit: I figured it out, and am logged in now.

[al93535]

All I get when I try to log-in with my user name and password is this:

Connecting to 65.25.15.188:21
Connected to 65.25.15.188:21 in 1.300, Waiting for Server Response
220 Rogue Science FTP Server
Host type (1): Automatic detect
USER al93535
331 User name okay, need password.
PASS (hidden)
530 Not logged in.
Reconnect failed. The connection is dead. Sorry.

But I can log-in with anonymous just fine. Whats going on with that?

Edit: I figured it out, and am logged in now.

[al93535]

All I get when I try to log-in with my user name and password is this:

Connecting to 65.25.15.188:21
Connected to 65.25.15.188:21 in 1.300, Waiting for Server Response
220 Rogue Science FTP Server
Host type (1): Automatic detect
USER al93535
331 User name okay, need password.
PASS (hidden)
530 Not logged in.
Reconnect failed. The connection is dead. Sorry.

But I can log-in with anonymous just fine. Whats going on with that?

Edit: I figured it out, and am logged in now.

[Third_Rail]

Stupid mistake on my part - the timeout speed was 10s. Upped it to 60s and the server had time to let me connect.


Slow as all hell, but files I otherwise wouldn't be able to see.

[Third_Rail]

Stupid mistake on my part - the timeout speed was 10s. Upped it to 60s and the server had time to let me connect.


Slow as all hell, but files I otherwise wouldn't be able to see.

[Third_Rail]

Stupid mistake on my part - the timeout speed was 10s. Upped it to 60s and the server had time to let me connect.


Slow as all hell, but files I otherwise wouldn't be able to see.

[Jacks Complete]

Err... Yes, port 21.

I must be getting old. SSH is 23.

Anyhow, I got no response twice, then it said I was connected, but failed to return the directory listing. I gave up after 5 minutes. Any ideas?

[Jacks Complete]

Err... Yes, port 21.

I must be getting old. SSH is 23.

Anyhow, I got no response twice, then it said I was connected, but failed to return the directory listing. I gave up after 5 minutes. Any ideas?

[Jacks Complete]

Err... Yes, port 21.

I must be getting old. SSH is 23.

Anyhow, I got no response twice, then it said I was connected, but failed to return the directory listing. I gave up after 5 minutes. Any ideas?

[akinrog]

It might be due to shitty Windoze OS. Even if XP is claimed to be resource friendly, mine has to be restarted everyday in order to get maximum efficiency.
I believe Mega (or FTP admin) hosts this FTP on a Windoze machine and the OS consumes the resources over the time. Heck!!!.

[akinrog]

It might be due to shitty Windoze OS. Even if XP is claimed to be resource friendly, mine has to be restarted everyday in order to get maximum efficiency.
I believe Mega (or FTP admin) hosts this FTP on a Windoze machine and the OS consumes the resources over the time. Heck!!!.

[akinrog]

It might be due to shitty Windoze OS. Even if XP is claimed to be resource friendly, mine has to be restarted everyday in order to get maximum efficiency.
I believe Mega (or FTP admin) hosts this FTP on a Windoze machine and the OS consumes the resources over the time. Heck!!!.

[Third_Rail]

What speed should we be expecting? I'm getting anywhere from 0.29 to 12.2, but usually averaging around 2.5k...

[Third_Rail]

What speed should we be expecting? I'm getting anywhere from 0.29 to 12.2, but usually averaging around 2.5k...

[Third_Rail]

What speed should we be expecting? I'm getting anywhere from 0.29 to 12.2, but usually averaging around 2.5k...

[toledo]

so it seems i can login anonymous, i cant dl but havent tried uploading...

can anyone tell me how to get dl access, and if its even still available..

also could someone dl "the construction and operation of a clandestine drug laboratory" from \drugs\ on the ftp and let me know...

[toledo]

so it seems i can login anonymous, i cant dl but havent tried uploading...

can anyone tell me how to get dl access, and if its even still available..

also could someone dl "the construction and operation of a clandestine drug laboratory" from \drugs\ on the ftp and let me know...

[toledo]

so it seems i can login anonymous, i cant dl but havent tried uploading...

can anyone tell me how to get dl access, and if its even still available..

also could someone dl "the construction and operation of a clandestine drug laboratory" from \drugs\ on the ftp and let me know...

[Mumble]

I get around 4-6ish normally. Horrible with a cable modem, but I suppose they have to cap bandwith somewhat.

[Mumble]

I get around 4-6ish normally. Horrible with a cable modem, but I suppose they have to cap bandwith somewhat.

[Mumble]

I get around 4-6ish normally. Horrible with a cable modem, but I suppose they have to cap bandwith somewhat.

[Silentnite]

I get upwards of 8 usually. Its a matter of settings sometimes. There are programs that help speed up your Cable transfer rate.

Search for Cable Speed at majorgeeks.com

[Silentnite]

I get upwards of 8 usually. Its a matter of settings sometimes. There are programs that help speed up your Cable transfer rate.

Search for Cable Speed at majorgeeks.com

[Silentnite]

I get upwards of 8 usually. Its a matter of settings sometimes. There are programs that help speed up your Cable transfer rate.

Search for Cable Speed at majorgeeks.com

[Third_Rail]

I messed with the settings.... 35-45kb/s. :D

[Third_Rail]

I messed with the settings.... 35-45kb/s. :D

[Third_Rail]

I messed with the settings.... 35-45kb/s. :D

[akinrog]

Is FTP down for a few days?

I've got something to upload but cannot connect to it! Regards.

[akinrog]

Is FTP down for a few days?

I've got something to upload but cannot connect to it! Regards.

[akinrog]

Is FTP down for a few days?

I've got something to upload but cannot connect to it! Regards.

[nbk2000]

Since I haven't been able to access the FTP (and apparently anyone else), I've posted this here. Someone please upload it to the 'combat/fitness' folder where the described video is located.

+++++++++++++++++++

While I've never had occassion to be personally involved in any mutal knife fighting, I have witnessed it a few times in prison.

One of the things that struck me about this video is the reliance of the techniques on space to manuever.

While you may have this space on the streets, you do NOT have them in the prisons (usually), as cells are the size of your typical walk-in closet, and hallways are sometimes barely a man wide.

In many places, you will NOT have the room to 'step to the outside', as there will be a concrete wall there. :p

You probably won't be able to back up either, as there will likely be a locked steel door, or a crush of people behind you, or a five-story drop off the top tier.

Assuming the guy attacks from the front, you'll also probably find at least one other person behind you (they almost always attack from behind, the front being a diversion) has a shank out and aimed at you, as these things usually don't happen mano-a-mano, but are group endeavours.

So you'll have a guy in front, a guy behind, in a narrow hallway with no escape, and you caught between the two...now, sidestep the attack! :p

Oh, and if you do have a piece of your own on you, and you see the attack coming, and can deal with the two-on-one nature of it, you'll still be having the problem of not having a razor-sharp cutting edge with which to cut the attackers arm tendons to disable it (as in the video), as shanks are almost always limited to sharp and pointy (but no-edge) objects, more like ice picks than fighting knives.

Your best defense is a good offense, as you must close with the attacker, get control of his weapon arm, and attack!

Twice I've done this, unarmed, against men armed with handguns and intent on violence against me, and both times I've left the encounter unscathed.

In a prison hallway scenario, you close with the guy in front, grapple him and get him between you and the other guy so his body is a shield against the other guy, while you work over the guy in your grasp, either with your hands or your shiv.

Once he's dealt with, you'll either find the other guy has suddenly remembered an appointment elsewhere, or you now only have one guy to deal with, instead of two.

They're not expecting you to attack, and it'll take them a second to realize what you are doing. In that second, you'd better get the guy you've attacked turned around so he's between you and the other guy, 'cause you're dead meat if you have try defending against two at the same time, especially if you're caught 'naked' (without weapon).

Don't forget to smear shit (not your own [DNA]) on your shiv every few days so, in case you have to use it, you ensure the kill of (or at least nasty infections in) your enemy.

BTW, if you should happen to have any say in the matter, use a serrated edge, instead of a razor edge, as the tearing action of a serrated edge prevents the artery from retracting and restricting blood loss, as it does with a smooth razor cut.

[nbk2000]

Since I haven't been able to access the FTP (and apparently anyone else), I've posted this here. Someone please upload it to the 'combat/fitness' folder where the described video is located.

+++++++++++++++++++

While I've never had occassion to be personally involved in any mutal knife fighting, I have witnessed it a few times in prison.

One of the things that struck me about this video is the reliance of the techniques on space to manuever.

While you may have this space on the streets, you do NOT have them in the prisons (usually), as cells are the size of your typical walk-in closet, and hallways are sometimes barely a man wide.

In many places, you will NOT have the room to 'step to the outside', as there will be a concrete wall there. :p

You probably won't be able to back up either, as there will likely be a locked steel door, or a crush of people behind you, or a five-story drop off the top tier.

Assuming the guy attacks from the front, you'll also probably find at least one other person behind you (they almost always attack from behind, the front being a diversion) has a shank out and aimed at you, as these things usually don't happen mano-a-mano, but are group endeavours.

So you'll have a guy in front, a guy behind, in a narrow hallway with no escape, and you caught between the two...now, sidestep the attack! :p

Oh, and if you do have a piece of your own on you, and you see the attack coming, and can deal with the two-on-one nature of it, you'll still be having the problem of not having a razor-sharp cutting edge with which to cut the attackers arm tendons to disable it (as in the video), as shanks are almost always limited to sharp and pointy (but no-edge) objects, more like ice picks than fighting knives.

Your best defense is a good offense, as you must close with the attacker, get control of his weapon arm, and attack!

Twice I've done this, unarmed, against men armed with handguns and intent on violence against me, and both times I've left the encounter unscathed.

In a prison hallway scenario, you close with the guy in front, grapple him and get him between you and the other guy so his body is a shield against the other guy, while you work over the guy in your grasp, either with your hands or your shiv.

Once he's dealt with, you'll either find the other guy has suddenly remembered an appointment elsewhere, or you now only have one guy to deal with, instead of two.

They're not expecting you to attack, and it'll take them a second to realize what you are doing. In that second, you'd better get the guy you've attacked turned around so he's between you and the other guy, 'cause you're dead meat if you have try defending against two at the same time, especially if you're caught 'naked' (without weapon).

Don't forget to smear shit (not your own [DNA]) on your shiv every few days so, in case you have to use it, you ensure the kill of (or at least nasty infections in) your enemy.

BTW, if you should happen to have any say in the matter, use a serrated edge, instead of a razor edge, as the tearing action of a serrated edge prevents the artery from retracting and restricting blood loss, as it does with a smooth razor cut.

[nbk2000]

Since I haven't been able to access the FTP (and apparently anyone else), I've posted this here. Someone please upload it to the 'combat/fitness' folder where the described video is located.

+++++++++++++++++++

While I've never had occassion to be personally involved in any mutal knife fighting, I have witnessed it a few times in prison.

One of the things that struck me about this video is the reliance of the techniques on space to manuever.

While you may have this space on the streets, you do NOT have them in the prisons (usually), as cells are the size of your typical walk-in closet, and hallways are sometimes barely a man wide.

In many places, you will NOT have the room to 'step to the outside', as there will be a concrete wall there. :p

You probably won't be able to back up either, as there will likely be a locked steel door, or a crush of people behind you, or a five-story drop off the top tier.

Assuming the guy attacks from the front, you'll also probably find at least one other person behind you (they almost always attack from behind, the front being a diversion) has a shank out and aimed at you, as these things usually don't happen mano-a-mano, but are group endeavours.

So you'll have a guy in front, a guy behind, in a narrow hallway with no escape, and you caught between the two...now, sidestep the attack! :p

Oh, and if you do have a piece of your own on you, and you see the attack coming, and can deal with the two-on-one nature of it, you'll still be having the problem of not having a razor-sharp cutting edge with which to cut the attackers arm tendons to disable it (as in the video), as shanks are almost always limited to sharp and pointy (but no-edge) objects, more like ice picks than fighting knives.

Your best defense is a good offense, as you must close with the attacker, get control of his weapon arm, and attack!

Twice I've done this, unarmed, against men armed with handguns and intent on violence against me, and both times I've left the encounter unscathed.

In a prison hallway scenario, you close with the guy in front, grapple him and get him between you and the other guy so his body is a shield against the other guy, while you work over the guy in your grasp, either with your hands or your shiv.

Once he's dealt with, you'll either find the other guy has suddenly remembered an appointment elsewhere, or you now only have one guy to deal with, instead of two.

They're not expecting you to attack, and it'll take them a second to realize what you are doing. In that second, you'd better get the guy you've attacked turned around so he's between you and the other guy, 'cause you're dead meat if you have try defending against two at the same time, especially if you're caught 'naked' (without weapon).

Don't forget to smear shit (not your own [DNA]) on your shiv every few days so, in case you have to use it, you ensure the kill of (or at least nasty infections in) your enemy.

BTW, if you should happen to have any say in the matter, use a serrated edge, instead of a razor edge, as the tearing action of a serrated edge prevents the artery from retracting and restricting blood loss, as it does with a smooth razor cut.

[megalomania]

The file has been inserted in the proper place...

As for the FTP being screwy, that is not true. There is nothing wrong, except perhaps it being under rather heavy bandwidth load lately. This may keep some people from getting in as there are only so many allowed on at once.

[megalomania]

The file has been inserted in the proper place...

As for the FTP being screwy, that is not true. There is nothing wrong, except perhaps it being under rather heavy bandwidth load lately. This may keep some people from getting in as there are only so many allowed on at once.

[megalomania]

The file has been inserted in the proper place...

As for the FTP being screwy, that is not true. There is nothing wrong, except perhaps it being under rather heavy bandwidth load lately. This may keep some people from getting in as there are only so many allowed on at once.

[cyclonite4]

Silentnite, does zonealarm require admin privileges to install? I use it myself as a firewall, but natrually I have admin priveleges on my own computer :D, but the school computers are a different case.

Mega, I hear we are back to a user/pass system? If so, could I get a user/pass? Do I PM you with a desired combo, or do you assign it?

[cyclonite4]

Silentnite, does zonealarm require admin privileges to install? I use it myself as a firewall, but natrually I have admin priveleges on my own computer :D, but the school computers are a different case.

Mega, I hear we are back to a user/pass system? If so, could I get a user/pass? Do I PM you with a desired combo, or do you assign it?

[cyclonite4]

Silentnite, does zonealarm require admin privileges to install? I use it myself as a firewall, but natrually I have admin priveleges on my own computer :D, but the school computers are a different case.

Mega, I hear we are back to a user/pass system? If so, could I get a user/pass? Do I PM you with a desired combo, or do you assign it?

[Silentnite]

Not that I know of, I can usually manage it at my school with little to no hassle. And it is on a lan, although I believe there was one program we were using where that gave us a problem I do not believe it was Zonealarm.

And yes, I believe that the PM is the way to go :p

[Silentnite]

Not that I know of, I can usually manage it at my school with little to no hassle. And it is on a lan, although I believe there was one program we were using where that gave us a problem I do not believe it was Zonealarm.

And yes, I believe that the PM is the way to go :p

[Silentnite]

Not that I know of, I can usually manage it at my school with little to no hassle. And it is on a lan, although I believe there was one program we were using where that gave us a problem I do not believe it was Zonealarm.

And yes, I believe that the PM is the way to go :p