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2,4,6-TNP
March 18th, 2005, 05:07 AM
Dear Members,

In the great power and wisdom of Ovid the Lover, I qoute He:

"Young men of Rome, I advise you to learn the arts of the pleader,
Not so much for the sake of some poor wretch at the bar,
But because women are moved, as much as the people or the Senate,
possibly more than a judge, conquered by eloquent words,
But dissemble your powers, and don't attempt to look learned,
Let your periods shun rancorous terms of abuse.
You would be out of your mind to go and declaim your darling;
Even in letters beware using litigious terms.
Let the style you employ be natural, easy, familiar,
Coaxing, also, of course, so that she thinks you are there.
If she refuses to read, or sends back a letter unopened,
Hope that some day she will read, don't be discouraged.
Some day!
Time brings the obdurate ox to submit to the yoke and the ploughshare,
Time brings the fieriest steed under the bridle and rein.
Even an iron ring is worn by continual usage,
Even the hardest ground crumbles at last from the plough.
What is harder than rock, or what more gentle than water?
Yet the water in time hollows the rigidest stone.
Only persist: you can have more luck than Penelope's suitors.
Though it took a long time, Troy came tumbling down.
What if she reads, and won't answer? Do not attempt any pressure.
Only supply her with more flattering missives to read.
What she is willing to read, some day she'll be willing to answer--
Every thing in it's time, every thing by degrees.
Maybe the first response will make you sad by its scolding,
Saying, "Don't write anymore!", saying, 'please let me alone!"
What she requests, that she fears; what she does not ask, she in-
sists on,
So, go on with your work; some day the day will be won."

I can think of thousands of reasons to write a love letter! Will it not
be ten thousand times better if the letter itself is beautiful and it's
lovely color will never fade, but last forever? Picric Acid is a reality!
A brilliant yellow that does not fade! Imagine a love letter so passionate
that it's very substance is "explosive" with every letter!

What I propose is the learned members of the forum reply with their:
How to! Of dying paper with Picric acid so that "her" delicate fingers will
not be stained, that her limbs will never be tarnished, but that brilliant
paper will not lie! With your hard work and expertise it will last forever and ever shine with explosive brilliance!

How do you dye cotton papers with Picric Acid to make letter grade paper? :)

Hey Rosco Bodine and all you wise men, won't you submit to a lover's
request, won't you yield to the best petition a lover can make? Give me
my heart's desire, and the hunger and thirst my soul crave's most! Give me Me my Beloved's love, give me her devotion and I will love you; I will admit you are wise, my heart will not deny that you are crafty; that your intuition can grant a lover his deepest desires, faithfulness and a love returned! The deepest passions are yellow, their congruency is sensational! Picric Acid's yellow is brilliant and its returns in love are golden. Let it be! This is right. It was meant to be!

Love is a fortress, a caslte that I love! If I am poetic I am pathetic in this:

Will I deny a word for my beloved's well being? Will I not pursue it though it
cost me everything?

2,4,6-TNP
March 18th, 2005, 05:07 AM
Dear Members,

In the great power and wisdom of Ovid the Lover, I qoute He:

"Young men of Rome, I advise you to learn the arts of the pleader,
Not so much for the sake of some poor wretch at the bar,
But because women are moved, as much as the people or the Senate,
possibly more than a judge, conquered by eloquent words,
But dissemble your powers, and don't attempt to look learned,
Let your periods shun rancorous terms of abuse.
You would be out of your mind to go and declaim your darling;
Even in letters beware using litigious terms.
Let the style you employ be natural, easy, familiar,
Coaxing, also, of course, so that she thinks you are there.
If she refuses to read, or sends back a letter unopened,
Hope that some day she will read, don't be discouraged.
Some day!
Time brings the obdurate ox to submit to the yoke and the ploughshare,
Time brings the fieriest steed under the bridle and rein.
Even an iron ring is worn by continual usage,
Even the hardest ground crumbles at last from the plough.
What is harder than rock, or what more gentle than water?
Yet the water in time hollows the rigidest stone.
Only persist: you can have more luck than Penelope's suitors.
Though it took a long time, Troy came tumbling down.
What if she reads, and won't answer? Do not attempt any pressure.
Only supply her with more flattering missives to read.
What she is willing to read, some day she'll be willing to answer--
Every thing in it's time, every thing by degrees.
Maybe the first response will make you sad by its scolding,
Saying, "Don't write anymore!", saying, 'please let me alone!"
What she requests, that she fears; what she does not ask, she in-
sists on,
So, go on with your work; some day the day will be won."

I can think of thousands of reasons to write a love letter! Will it not
be ten thousand times better if the letter itself is beautiful and it's
lovely color will never fade, but last forever? Picric Acid is a reality!
A brilliant yellow that does not fade! Imagine a love letter so passionate
that it's very substance is "explosive" with every letter!

What I propose is the learned members of the forum reply with their:
How to! Of dying paper with Picric acid so that "her" delicate fingers will
not be stained, that her limbs will never be tarnished, but that brilliant
paper will not lie! With your hard work and expertise it will last forever and ever shine with explosive brilliance!

How do you dye cotton papers with Picric Acid to make letter grade paper? :)

Hey Rosco Bodine and all you wise men, won't you submit to a lover's
request, won't you yield to the best petition a lover can make? Give me
my heart's desire, and the hunger and thirst my soul crave's most! Give me Me my Beloved's love, give me her devotion and I will love you; I will admit you are wise, my heart will not deny that you are crafty; that your intuition can grant a lover his deepest desires, faithfulness and a love returned! The deepest passions are yellow, their congruency is sensational! Picric Acid's yellow is brilliant and its returns in love are golden. Let it be! This is right. It was meant to be!

Love is a fortress, a caslte that I love! If I am poetic I am pathetic in this:

Will I deny a word for my beloved's well being? Will I not pursue it though it
cost me everything?

2,4,6-TNP
March 18th, 2005, 05:07 AM
Dear Members,

In the great power and wisdom of Ovid the Lover, I qoute He:

"Young men of Rome, I advise you to learn the arts of the pleader,
Not so much for the sake of some poor wretch at the bar,
But because women are moved, as much as the people or the Senate,
possibly more than a judge, conquered by eloquent words,
But dissemble your powers, and don't attempt to look learned,
Let your periods shun rancorous terms of abuse.
You would be out of your mind to go and declaim your darling;
Even in letters beware using litigious terms.
Let the style you employ be natural, easy, familiar,
Coaxing, also, of course, so that she thinks you are there.
If she refuses to read, or sends back a letter unopened,
Hope that some day she will read, don't be discouraged.
Some day!
Time brings the obdurate ox to submit to the yoke and the ploughshare,
Time brings the fieriest steed under the bridle and rein.
Even an iron ring is worn by continual usage,
Even the hardest ground crumbles at last from the plough.
What is harder than rock, or what more gentle than water?
Yet the water in time hollows the rigidest stone.
Only persist: you can have more luck than Penelope's suitors.
Though it took a long time, Troy came tumbling down.
What if she reads, and won't answer? Do not attempt any pressure.
Only supply her with more flattering missives to read.
What she is willing to read, some day she'll be willing to answer--
Every thing in it's time, every thing by degrees.
Maybe the first response will make you sad by its scolding,
Saying, "Don't write anymore!", saying, 'please let me alone!"
What she requests, that she fears; what she does not ask, she in-
sists on,
So, go on with your work; some day the day will be won."

I can think of thousands of reasons to write a love letter! Will it not
be ten thousand times better if the letter itself is beautiful and it's
lovely color will never fade, but last forever? Picric Acid is a reality!
A brilliant yellow that does not fade! Imagine a love letter so passionate
that it's very substance is "explosive" with every letter!

What I propose is the learned members of the forum reply with their:
How to! Of dying paper with Picric acid so that "her" delicate fingers will
not be stained, that her limbs will never be tarnished, but that brilliant
paper will not lie! With your hard work and expertise it will last forever and ever shine with explosive brilliance!

How do you dye cotton papers with Picric Acid to make letter grade paper? :)

Hey Rosco Bodine and all you wise men, won't you submit to a lover's
request, won't you yield to the best petition a lover can make? Give me
my heart's desire, and the hunger and thirst my soul crave's most! Give me Me my Beloved's love, give me her devotion and I will love you; I will admit you are wise, my heart will not deny that you are crafty; that your intuition can grant a lover his deepest desires, faithfulness and a love returned! The deepest passions are yellow, their congruency is sensational! Picric Acid's yellow is brilliant and its returns in love are golden. Let it be! This is right. It was meant to be!

Love is a fortress, a caslte that I love! If I am poetic I am pathetic in this:

Will I deny a word for my beloved's well being? Will I not pursue it though it
cost me everything?

cyclonite4
March 18th, 2005, 07:21 AM
I'm sure the recipient of such a letter will be 'exploding with joy', knowing they have recieved such quality paper. :)

cyclonite4
March 18th, 2005, 07:21 AM
I'm sure the recipient of such a letter will be 'exploding with joy', knowing they have recieved such quality paper. :)

cyclonite4
March 18th, 2005, 07:21 AM
I'm sure the recipient of such a letter will be 'exploding with joy', knowing they have recieved such quality paper. :)

Silentnite
March 18th, 2005, 10:38 AM
Someone smoked something special and read some shakespeare.

That being said. What about a cotton ball? Take said poetry missive and gently coat it in your picric. I havent had the pleasure of working with picric yet so I dont know how volatile it is. So this may or may not work for you.

Good luck with the whole blowing up of the girlfriend thing. P.S. Here in the northern states thats called stalking. In the south, its called love.

Silentnite
March 18th, 2005, 10:38 AM
Someone smoked something special and read some shakespeare.

That being said. What about a cotton ball? Take said poetry missive and gently coat it in your picric. I havent had the pleasure of working with picric yet so I dont know how volatile it is. So this may or may not work for you.

Good luck with the whole blowing up of the girlfriend thing. P.S. Here in the northern states thats called stalking. In the south, its called love.

Silentnite
March 18th, 2005, 10:38 AM
Someone smoked something special and read some shakespeare.

That being said. What about a cotton ball? Take said poetry missive and gently coat it in your picric. I havent had the pleasure of working with picric yet so I dont know how volatile it is. So this may or may not work for you.

Good luck with the whole blowing up of the girlfriend thing. P.S. Here in the northern states thats called stalking. In the south, its called love.

FUTI
March 18th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Picric acid acctually stains wool much better then cotton. If you look some book about textile you will find that order of dyeing is wool, silk, cotton...so if coloured paper is what you really want that I'm puzzled how to help you. Maybe you could try to do this...dissolve casein from milk in mild basic water solution (you could also nitrate it before but not neccesary unless girlfriend exploding with joy isn't real goal, but I will assume you meant to send her yourself;)), soak paper in it, let it stand on air a little and soak again in mild acetic acid water solution (or better buffer) , rince with water and dry; then you try to colour that paper with picric acid salt (I would use ammonium salt for that). Maybe treatment with HCHO of that paper before picrate tretment can improve results. If paper look little swollen from water then you can say it was from tears you swept writting to her;).

FUTI
March 18th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Picric acid acctually stains wool much better then cotton. If you look some book about textile you will find that order of dyeing is wool, silk, cotton...so if coloured paper is what you really want that I'm puzzled how to help you. Maybe you could try to do this...dissolve casein from milk in mild basic water solution (you could also nitrate it before but not neccesary unless girlfriend exploding with joy isn't real goal, but I will assume you meant to send her yourself;)), soak paper in it, let it stand on air a little and soak again in mild acetic acid water solution (or better buffer) , rince with water and dry; then you try to colour that paper with picric acid salt (I would use ammonium salt for that). Maybe treatment with HCHO of that paper before picrate tretment can improve results. If paper look little swollen from water then you can say it was from tears you swept writting to her;).

FUTI
March 18th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Picric acid acctually stains wool much better then cotton. If you look some book about textile you will find that order of dyeing is wool, silk, cotton...so if coloured paper is what you really want that I'm puzzled how to help you. Maybe you could try to do this...dissolve casein from milk in mild basic water solution (you could also nitrate it before but not neccesary unless girlfriend exploding with joy isn't real goal, but I will assume you meant to send her yourself;)), soak paper in it, let it stand on air a little and soak again in mild acetic acid water solution (or better buffer) , rince with water and dry; then you try to colour that paper with picric acid salt (I would use ammonium salt for that). Maybe treatment with HCHO of that paper before picrate tretment can improve results. If paper look little swollen from water then you can say it was from tears you swept writting to her;).

Bert
March 18th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Considering your propensity for purple prose, perhaps you'd prefer permanganate?

Bert
March 18th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Considering your propensity for purple prose, perhaps you'd prefer permanganate?

Bert
March 18th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Considering your propensity for purple prose, perhaps you'd prefer permanganate?

nbk2000
March 18th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Candy is Dandy
But GHB is quicker than liquor!

:p

I'd say 'REPENT!!' of your lustful desires, sinner! :mad:

:rolleyes:

Purple prose...:D Purple faced, more like it. :p

nbk2000
March 18th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Candy is Dandy
But GHB is quicker than liquor!

:p

I'd say 'REPENT!!' of your lustful desires, sinner! :mad:

:rolleyes:

Purple prose...:D Purple faced, more like it. :p

nbk2000
March 18th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Candy is Dandy
But GHB is quicker than liquor!

:p

I'd say 'REPENT!!' of your lustful desires, sinner! :mad:

:rolleyes:

Purple prose...:D Purple faced, more like it. :p

cyclonite4
March 18th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Good luck with the whole blowing up of the girlfriend thing. P.S. Here in the northern states thats called stalking. In the south, its called love.


So blowing up your girlfriend is only stalking, geez... I think some laws are getting a bit lenient. :)

cyclonite4
March 18th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Good luck with the whole blowing up of the girlfriend thing. P.S. Here in the northern states thats called stalking. In the south, its called love.


So blowing up your girlfriend is only stalking, geez... I think some laws are getting a bit lenient. :)

cyclonite4
March 18th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Good luck with the whole blowing up of the girlfriend thing. P.S. Here in the northern states thats called stalking. In the south, its called love.


So blowing up your girlfriend is only stalking, geez... I think some laws are getting a bit lenient. :)

2,4,6-TNP
March 19th, 2005, 02:53 AM
Anyone of you here who has worked with picric acid knows it will dye damn near anything, including your hands.

My problem is not how to dye paper with picric acid, that is easy, but rather to do it in such a way so that the finished product won't stain the hands of the person
reading the letter, even if their hands were a little sweaty.

I am the first to admit that using picric acid to dye love letters or any letters
a brilliant yellow is a very novel idea! It may be asking too much! However
I can't help, but to think that it would be a real enjoyable thing to make
custom letters that are custom stained using a beautifully colored explosive.

By the way I did not mean anyone to think that the dyed paper would
ever be an explosive hazard (nothing detonates in such small diameters).
It may be a slight fire hazard though. If anyone wanted to burn up my
carefully written love letters any way than piss on'em.

The real point here is to avoid the reader from staining their hands yellow.
I have thought about using a clear laquer or even a wax finish after the stain.
Any suggestions? I didn't want to scrap the idea all together, because
inks look very hansome on PA dyed paper. Also picric acid makes probably
one of the most brilliant yellow stains compared to many inferior dyes that
they usually use to dye paper yellow. If you have'nt noticed the yellow
paper you buy at a store is not brilliant, it looks all faded and pale and does
not bring out and inhance the ink like picric acid does.

2,4,6-TNP
March 19th, 2005, 02:53 AM
Anyone of you here who has worked with picric acid knows it will dye damn near anything, including your hands.

My problem is not how to dye paper with picric acid, that is easy, but rather to do it in such a way so that the finished product won't stain the hands of the person
reading the letter, even if their hands were a little sweaty.

I am the first to admit that using picric acid to dye love letters or any letters
a brilliant yellow is a very novel idea! It may be asking too much! However
I can't help, but to think that it would be a real enjoyable thing to make
custom letters that are custom stained using a beautifully colored explosive.

By the way I did not mean anyone to think that the dyed paper would
ever be an explosive hazard (nothing detonates in such small diameters).
It may be a slight fire hazard though. If anyone wanted to burn up my
carefully written love letters any way than piss on'em.

The real point here is to avoid the reader from staining their hands yellow.
I have thought about using a clear laquer or even a wax finish after the stain.
Any suggestions? I didn't want to scrap the idea all together, because
inks look very hansome on PA dyed paper. Also picric acid makes probably
one of the most brilliant yellow stains compared to many inferior dyes that
they usually use to dye paper yellow. If you have'nt noticed the yellow
paper you buy at a store is not brilliant, it looks all faded and pale and does
not bring out and inhance the ink like picric acid does.

2,4,6-TNP
March 19th, 2005, 02:53 AM
Anyone of you here who has worked with picric acid knows it will dye damn near anything, including your hands.

My problem is not how to dye paper with picric acid, that is easy, but rather to do it in such a way so that the finished product won't stain the hands of the person
reading the letter, even if their hands were a little sweaty.

I am the first to admit that using picric acid to dye love letters or any letters
a brilliant yellow is a very novel idea! It may be asking too much! However
I can't help, but to think that it would be a real enjoyable thing to make
custom letters that are custom stained using a beautifully colored explosive.

By the way I did not mean anyone to think that the dyed paper would
ever be an explosive hazard (nothing detonates in such small diameters).
It may be a slight fire hazard though. If anyone wanted to burn up my
carefully written love letters any way than piss on'em.

The real point here is to avoid the reader from staining their hands yellow.
I have thought about using a clear laquer or even a wax finish after the stain.
Any suggestions? I didn't want to scrap the idea all together, because
inks look very hansome on PA dyed paper. Also picric acid makes probably
one of the most brilliant yellow stains compared to many inferior dyes that
they usually use to dye paper yellow. If you have'nt noticed the yellow
paper you buy at a store is not brilliant, it looks all faded and pale and does
not bring out and inhance the ink like picric acid does.

Silentnite
March 19th, 2005, 04:12 AM
OH! You actually LIKE the girl. That changes it. :p I thought this was one of those cases. :rolleyes:

Seeing as how your going for the brilliance of the yellow, you wouldnt want to do the old tried and true of Tea would you? I did that with a few of my poems a while ago, and then used a match all underneath to give it a nice aged look. Keep in mind I set it in a cookie pan and let it soak over night. And then did the Match as it was dry.

Beyond that. If you do the PA thing, maybe you could coat it with clear nailpolish? I dont recall if that smell goes away, but I am of the belief that it does. I use it to finish the necklaces I make, and it works fine. And even though hemp already smells, it and the nailpolish smell goes away.

Silentnite
March 19th, 2005, 04:12 AM
OH! You actually LIKE the girl. That changes it. :p I thought this was one of those cases. :rolleyes:

Seeing as how your going for the brilliance of the yellow, you wouldnt want to do the old tried and true of Tea would you? I did that with a few of my poems a while ago, and then used a match all underneath to give it a nice aged look. Keep in mind I set it in a cookie pan and let it soak over night. And then did the Match as it was dry.

Beyond that. If you do the PA thing, maybe you could coat it with clear nailpolish? I dont recall if that smell goes away, but I am of the belief that it does. I use it to finish the necklaces I make, and it works fine. And even though hemp already smells, it and the nailpolish smell goes away.

Silentnite
March 19th, 2005, 04:12 AM
OH! You actually LIKE the girl. That changes it. :p I thought this was one of those cases. :rolleyes:

Seeing as how your going for the brilliance of the yellow, you wouldnt want to do the old tried and true of Tea would you? I did that with a few of my poems a while ago, and then used a match all underneath to give it a nice aged look. Keep in mind I set it in a cookie pan and let it soak over night. And then did the Match as it was dry.

Beyond that. If you do the PA thing, maybe you could coat it with clear nailpolish? I dont recall if that smell goes away, but I am of the belief that it does. I use it to finish the necklaces I make, and it works fine. And even though hemp already smells, it and the nailpolish smell goes away.

FUTI
March 20th, 2005, 02:05 PM
maybe hair spray can do the trick. It is usually has as main components PVP (or PVPP I can't remember) and some silicone compounds. First has some protein like caracter and have nice surface adhesion and second is there to prevent moisture absorption by repeling water from first component.

FUTI
March 20th, 2005, 02:05 PM
maybe hair spray can do the trick. It is usually has as main components PVP (or PVPP I can't remember) and some silicone compounds. First has some protein like caracter and have nice surface adhesion and second is there to prevent moisture absorption by repeling water from first component.

FUTI
March 20th, 2005, 02:05 PM
maybe hair spray can do the trick. It is usually has as main components PVP (or PVPP I can't remember) and some silicone compounds. First has some protein like caracter and have nice surface adhesion and second is there to prevent moisture absorption by repeling water from first component.