The "Anti-Pyrotechnics" Movement

[quicksilver]

The CPSC has made a number of moves in the direction of eliminating the hobby of pyrotechnics. Some folks feel that is extremely narrow minded & wondered where all this began. Some would say that the 1968 Child Protective Act in the US was a political "piggy-back" re; pyrotechnics - just as gun control has been a boon for many political hacks to gather votes. But one California gentelman has devoted his sweet time and web page to making "bombs & fireworks" a real "in-your-face" issue....

http://nobombs.net/brucel/explosiveintro.html

I have rearly read such garbage & lies in receint memory. This person who promotes this web page is very serious about stopping free speech issues: just as the Califiornian Fienstein Ammendment attempted to do. For those of you who are not familiar with the Feinstein bill, it proposed that any and all "bomb-making" information should be stricken from the internet (books too!) and treated as a Felony.....This is serious 1st Ammendment stuff and the web page above works hand in glove with some other special interest groups....If you have the stomach; check it out.
A simple Google for "Bomb making on the web, legislation" will also give some insight as to some lengths attempted in that direction.

[Chris The Great]

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
There were an estimated 6,328,000 car accidents in the US in 2004. The cost of these accidents exceeds 230+ Billion dollars. There were about 2.9 million injury cases and 42,636 car accident deaths.
According to the Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC), each year there are about 7,000 fireworks related injuries. This figure includes all injuries related to fireworks including, but not limited to, accidents involving homemade items and illegal explosive devices. Over the last 10 years, 33% of all fireworks related injuries have been the result of illegal explosives and homemade fireworks.
According to the CPSC, there were 16 deaths related to fireworks in 1999.

Ban cars etc. :rolleyes:

[Jacks Complete]

Oh, but if cars were fun, they *would* be banned!

Basically, if it's fun, they want to tax it or ban it. The UK is way ahead of most places on banning everything. When Guy Fawkes tried, and failed, to blow the Houses of Parliament to hell, no-one decided to ban gunpowder. They didn't even license it till years later. Now, 4 deaths in 5 years and they ban display fireworks!

Bag of shite. I've seen the future, and it's a 42 year old virgin sitting in a room being watched by 5 government workers and an AI monitoring his brain. 203% of his income will go on taxes to support the workers monitoring his workers' workers, etc. and he will be automatically fined for being non-productive when he has a stray thought.

[al93535]

The person who wrote that web page is a complete idiot! ANFO can be made touch sensitive? C'mon, thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard! But the page was worth a few good laughs.

Really though, all the new laws are complete bullshit. Feinstein can screw off, trying to trade our freedoms for FAKE safety and security. It seems someone hell bent on blowing something up will find a way. If he can't find the info to make it on-line he will find it in a book. If there are no books, he will find someone who knows, and if that fails he can steal the material from numerous places.

Just like gun laws. A criminal can aquire a gun WAY easier then a law abiding citizen can. Its a fucking joke.

[simply RED]

Oklahoma Explosion

"The scene and residence were searched revealing flash powder, pipe fragments, numerous PRESCRIPTION NARCOTICS, MARIJUANA, PORNOGRAPHY, and firearms."

Wasn't it some kind of "purple" explosion?
Obviously YES...
The Kentucky State Police requested ATF's assistance in investigating the deaths of three men. They were killed in two separate explosions in a marijuana field.


Georgia

"Investigators determined that the explosion was caused by an artillery grenade. One student had brought it to school and gave it to another student who dropped it while handling it, causing it to explode. The investigation revealed that the first student had brought it from home after taking it from his father's belongings. The father, a convicted felon, told investigators that he had obtained the grenade from a friend who collects brass at the Fort Stewart military firing range."

The granade had a trip around the world :) ....

[Bert]

I found that site years ago. Apparently someone has resurected the thing. I recall finding a claim on that site that the Port Chicago disaster may have involved nuclear rather than conventional explosives- Good for a chuckle.

The originator was a bomb squad officer in CA. No doubt he knows more about rendering safe than I do. But his level of knowledge of any other aspect of the arts was rather low... And his main interest in producing the site was to try to scare young people away from playing with explosives. But young people don't have the experience or attitudes for THAT to work, IMHO. You all know you're going to live forever. Wish I still did!

[Hobbit Porn]

I'm pretty sure I've seen that page ( or at least parts of it) on the net a few years ago... esp. the explosive roulette thingy.
But the page I remember was more about explosive safety...and not so much doom and gloom... and I'm pretty sure back then the page was run by a Lauren Bayliss, or something along those lines, Not Bruce Lieurance, former bomb technician.

THe page I remember also offered a program called A.R.C.H.I.E. that was made by FEMA to be used for responses to explosions.

I didnt read much of this page, but some of the links are pretty interesting if you are interested in industries that use explosives, ( the ISEE page certainly caught my attention, as I've seen their certificate course in my university Library).

[meselfs]

ANFO can be made touch and friction sensitive if it has been contaminated with some impurities.

You mean if it's mixed with its equal volume of NG?

Ban cars etc.

Yes, ban cars PLEASE, I hate those stupid things.

[Flake2m]

Australia has also just gained a step towards this.
With the Draconian pro-facist bill on anti-terrorism they have just passed, I don't hope to see pyrotechnics or anything fun happenning anytime too soon.

At the rate Australia is going, you won't be able to drink, smoke or have sex before your John Howards age.

[quicksilver]

One of the MOST disgusting aspects of this issue is the lies and misrepresentations of the "antis" agenda.
"TOUCH SENSITIVE ANFO....." - who in their right mind would lie so overwhelmingly?
Just as in the various States within the USA; wherein gun control has taken root California has just published it's REAL murder rates. For this year alone they had 2048 murders. It's the States with gun control that have the highest murder rate. Look at Washington DC, Chiago, Trenton, etc. States like Montana, Wyoming, Arizona have much lower murder rates in ratio and proportion to the population and have very limited gun control. States with more lax controls over pyrotechnical hobbyists have lower incidents of children getting hurt with same. But the only way to determine this is to do some searching....the media doesn't touch it. The CPSC would be out of business if they only stuck with consumer product issues.
The lies are the thing that really get me angry. If the issues were based on facts then I would not feels that we have become a nation of cry-babys.

[tmp]

I saw that website years ago. Most of his pictures show "kewls" in
action - being careless and stupid. Of course he'll never point out
that MOST people using fireworks are safe anymore than the antigun
nuts will report that MOST gunowners are not criminals. FUCKING
PROPAGANDISTS ! :mad: