Smallest exploding ammunation

[Viper III]

I think everyone of you know air powered guns with this 4,5mm Pb Diabolos...

press a little bit hmtd in the "ass" of these Diabolos..

Than load them into the barrel but not in the right position, put them with the "ass" at the point...

I have a CO2 revolver S&W from Umarex....I shot on a little "Plechdose" (a little metall container, there were diabolos in this box)

there were a big hole in it (7 mm) , and some tiny Pb particles were shot out of the other side (between one side to the other side were ~ 1cm air



*shit*....I hope i can learn better english when I read the whole time old threads of this forum ^^

[festergrump]

I'd honestly say that it probably won't be too very long before you run into a jammed pellet problem while doing this. If you load the cavity end of the projectile into the barrel first (filled with the hmtd even) you're risking it expanding in the barrel, attempting to fold in on itself, and plugging up the bore while the CO2 continues to try to force it out the end of the barrel. I'd recommend not doing this, even if it is such a rather small dose of hmtd.

On the matter of english, you've already learned "shit" and "ass"... you're doing well! hehe... Honestly, though, speak it exclusively to everyone you know who can also speak it fluently and read as much as you can in english (on a daily basis if possible) and you'll have it down in no time at all...

[Viper III]

Hm, I tried it a few times and it never exploded in the barrel,...

I have to say that my barrel of the revolver is " just" 25cm long....

if you use a gun with a long barrel the diabolo may be heated up and explodes...but i think there is no damage to the barrell because its a realy small amount...

its just funny to shot around at street lamps 30 m away and there its going bang... =)

[Viper III]

here are some pics:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3492/zweiterschuss9eb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2009/splitterlchervomzweitenschuss6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8247/zweiterschussmitdia6mi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/842/splitterstcke2mp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

new target:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6342/ersterschuss23iq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5029/ersterschuss3td.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the wall behind :

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9224/ersterschusseinschusswand4cf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[charger]

Fester said it probably won't be long until you get a jammed pellet. So far you have been lucky, that doesn't mean it will not happen. What are you shooting in these pictures?

Also please learn to spell. Thanks

[Viper III]

What am I shooting ??

Co2 revolver S&W 8" barrel from umarex. ?!

http://www.christian-chmielorz.de/bilder/Umarex/CO2/586-9.jpg

this one but just in stainless look.

and a jammed pellet wouldn`t go into the revolver drum.

[festergrump]

I guess Viper hasn't learned to take context of a sentence into consideration yet, Charger. You might have to spell it out for him in the future. What he said he was shooting ON, though (not at) was a pellet tin.

Viper, if you look more closely at what I had posted earlier you'd have gotten that I was refering to a problem you may have WHILE attempting to SHOOT these rounds, not while loading them into the revolver cylinder. When you load them cavity first you may experience a jam after you pull the trigger and the pellet is still within the bore of the barrel. Looking at the projectile you are shooting from your gun in the 3rd picture you posted, though, it seems of a pretty solid construction and this may take over a thousand shots to ever occur. I was thinking of those hourglass types of pellets which will cause problems much quicker than the drum-type you are shooting due to their less solid center of mass reinforcement. You're not immune to a jam, by any means, but it may take much longer to have one jam on you.

A better point is the accuracy of your loading. You now have more weight at the rear of the projectile as it exits the barrel and it will inevitably tumble in mid-air to correct this. Doubtful you'll notice any difference since it's not the most accurate of guns to begin with, but it is a valid point all the same.

Now, why don't you show with your camera some regular pellet hits versus the hmtd rounds so we can see what markable difference there is to the damage to the target? I'm guessing that you will be more surprised than I to find there is not too much at all.

I have to give you credit for taking a good picture, though. I was able to pull a complete fingerprint right off the 5th picture. Running it through the global database now... ;)

[Viper III]

" I was able to pull a complete fingerprint right off the 5th picture. Running it through the global database now... "

This is good for.....?

If I find a empty pellet tin I`ll try it soon, but I think ther is just a hole of the diameter of the pellet and no Pb particles exits on the other side

[Alexires]

*grin* Festergrump is refering to your fingerprints.....on the inside of the tin.....in the photo..... Dude, seriously, you might want to sort of think about stuff before you post, and research a little.

I dont pretend to speak for anyone, but some of your posts look a little.... dubious at best. I know being told to use the search function can get annoying, but you might want to consider it.

No offence intended, I could be completely running away with the idea but yeah, it might warrent some thinking.

[Jacks Complete]

Fester, only one? There's two and a partial!

That should be good for something when the Bush/Blair NWO formally declares itself. ;-)

[festergrump]

One was all I needed to get my point across. Here's hoping I did even that. You never can be too careful, can you? Blatant disregard like that gets you made instantaneously, no work at all for the "blue-bishops".

New World Order... It's happening right before our very eyes...

[Viper III]

Can some admin delet this picture 5 ?, I can`t ....I don`t know why...


But I am sure , I am not registered at the police or somewhere else with my fingerprints ;).........I am not a terrorist ; ) lol

Moreover I live on an other continent than you, an I think the amerikan FBI CIA..., doesn`t worry about an little boy hunderts of km away who shoots with a airgun against pellet tins.

[Macgyver]

I think everyone of you know air powered guns with this 4,5mm Pb Diabolos...

press a little bit hmtd in the "ass" of these Diabolos..

Than load them into the barrel but not in the right position, put them with the "ass" at the point...

I have a CO2 revolver S&W from Umarex....I shot on a little "Plechdose" (a little metall container, there were diabolos in this box)

there were a big hole in it (7 mm) , and some tiny Pb particles were shot out of the other side (between one side to the other side were ~ 1cm air



*shit*....I hope i can learn better english when I read the whole time old threads of this forum ^^

This is nothing new, I wrote a thread about doing this a very long time ago.

But I did it a bit different, I sealed the ammo in the back with solder, then drilled a hole in the front, filling the diabolo with HMTD and then sealing it with a drop of superglue.

This way you don't have to fire it backwards.....

[parmin]

heh, and i thought placing a 22 round backwards on 308 hollowpoints are fun :)

hmm..