What would you change?

[Alexires]

Ok. I'm sort of seeing a bit of uncertainty. It doesn't look like people have thought about this alot, and that is a normal thing. We want to just right into the revolution bit, changing everything for the better and what not. The bolsheviks wanted to do that too, and see where it got them.

I have thought about what I want from this life, and thats what life is essentially about, you. What you want. If looking at the sky made you content, if thats all you wanted to do with your life, then that would be easy. Live off government benefits and look at the sky all day. A little bullshitting, and that would be easy.

What I'm trying to get at is I think we each need to think about what we want, and how far we are willing to go to achieve that. Everything that I want can be achieved as the world currently is now. Some of it may be difficult, but its possible. How you ask? Anything can be done with enough money. Thats how I see it.

I loath money, but I have come to the acceptance that it is necessary for things in this world. And maybe I'm disgusting, but I would do almost anything for it. Not simply to possess it, but because it enables me to do the things I want. Which makes me like the rest of people, I guess. But I feel, what makes me different from them is the length that I'm willing to go for it. I would do almost anything for money. When I say almost, I wouldn't physically impede my own ability to live. Hence, no cutting off of limbs or whatever, but apart from that, if you paid me enough, I would do anything for you. I'm tired of scrimping and saving for every little thing, only to get fucked over by assholes out there.

To me, money isnt the object of desire, its the tool to get what I want. I won't tell you what I want that money can give me, that would be too easy.

But I suggest each of you think about what you want from life, and then work out what you need to achieve that, then work out how far you are willing to go to get those things.

[billybobjoe]

:mad: What would I want from life... I think that the thing I would most want from life would to be the ablility to pursue the interests I have; chemestry, spud-guns, hunting and fishing, my job and just general tinkering, with out being percieved as a threat, or as a second class citizen.

As it stands right now I get looked at like a meth cook or a terrorist when I even mention chemestry, spud guns and I'm automaticaly some crazy guy with a water tube pipe-bomb. Hunting and fishing...well let's say you get an odd look when you drop the guts out of a 300 lb muley in your front yard (I have no back yard). Most guys are cool with it when they see you just tinkering in your front year, be it a car, a weed whacker or a bicycle. My job as a welder is the best thing that ever happened to me, but as time goes on it gets more and more like a job.

I guess it would be satisfying it i could tinker and create stuff with out being restrained financialy, socialy, or by the goverment :mad:.

P.S: I hope i haven't raped the english language too bad, I know this is my third and final post if I did.

[The_Duke]

I think you will benefit from reading the book “Think and Grow Rich” by Napoleon Hill.

If nothing else, you at least owe it to yourself to read chapter 10, “Power of the Master Mind”.

You can download the book here (http://rapidshare.de/files/14795823/Napoleon_Hill_-_Think_And_Grow_Rich.pdf.html).

[Kamisama]

I would change a dollar into four quarters.
*first thing to come to mind.*
second things was
"I would like some cherry pie.."
of course.. i would have to change my situation of no food into having food.

[Jacks Complete]

When I was younger, I decided that starting a country would be the way to go. Sadly, not having made £100 million from a dot-com, I really can't afford to.

I got a site, a plan, all sorts, and there is lots more on the internet. It was designed roughly along the lines of Neil Stephenson's "LogJam" from "The Diamond Age" (or was it Iain M. Banks in "Against a Dark Background"?)- a collection of boats of various sizes, each a tiny part of a sovereign (federalised) state with a single simple constitution. The full extent of the state's power would be limited to making an offending boat/microstate/whatever leave if they refused to recognise the limited federal laws, or physical relocation around the colony if they were doing something anti-social for the area they were in, and, otherwise, it was using the simple international law that says that the captain of the ship is the supreme power onboard. Only in a few tightly defined and very limited circumstances would the "fed" interfere, and that would be things like usurping the fed's power (obviously!), kiddie porn, murder and, probably, having unregistered WMDs. Even here, it would be only if the *state* was trying to do it (i.e. if the captain/leader was allowing things clearly illegal) that anything would happen, otherwise it would be left to the state to resolve. (Yes, this is very simple, and leads to ownership rights, loyalty questions and much else - what if you torture a captain till he hands over the ship? etc.- but this isn't the place to discuss it in detail!)

You want to design and build a 3" cannon with AP rounds? If that's fine with the captain of your ship, that's fine with the state. You want to build a nuke, then that's a bit different, and federal oversight would be required for obvious reasons! But, as long as you are sane and competent, you can move to just under three miles offshore and carry on. Want to fish with dynamite? Tricky, since the sea would be the shared resource we all relied on. Want to expand your empire by force? Sorry, but no. Piracy is against the law.

Anyway, you get the idea. Do what you want, unless it will starve or destroy or upset your neighbours, as long as your team is happy.

So, in other words, I would have changed everything!

[nocturnal shadow]

Reading about creating your own country made me remember someone telling me, about some bloke who had done so in Western Australia somewhere. Don’t know if it was bullshit or not but apparently he had made his own currency and everything. Anyway I tried to find it with google and found this which is sought of related
http://www.superdrewby.com/column/queernation.shtml (don't know how to post links properly)

A quick summary: a bunch of faggots decided to create their own nation because gay marriage is illegal in Australia. They claimed some uninhabited islands in the Coral Sea Islands and declared it world’s first gay nation. Sounds pretty stupid, but they are trying to use international law to make Australia declare them a sovereign nation. Under International law of which Australia is a signatory it states “an oppressed people who live in a overseas territory of a foreign colonial government shall have the right to self determination”
Personally I don't think they will be successful and don't really care but if they were successful what would stop us from creating a state for oppressed independently minded people? Also, although they haven't been declared a state and probably never will be, nothing has been done about them either. So what’s stopping us from just doing the same thing and setting up camp somewhere uninhabited, and creating ones own laws and system of government and so forth?

[rick6]

Thats an illusion I have had for decades--Geo-political annexation. Let me know when you gain sovereignty so I can pack my shit. I used to want to rule my own little country for much the same reasons. These day I would be quite content to just to live in a wonderful country like the one you describe. Maybe then I can legally own a can of Red Devil Lye. :o

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