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megalomania
August 17th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Explosives Arrest

The Nebraska State Patrol has arrested one man and is still looking for three others in connection with an illegal homemade explosive that was found just after the Fourth of July.

The explosive was found un-detonated on July 5, and now 27-year-old Jason Diaz of Bellevue faces Felony charges.

Warrants have also been issued for 29-year-old Gary Mangiameli of Omaha, 28-year-old Terry Diaz of Omaha, and 36-year-old Craig Cox of Papillion.

The four are accused setting off homemade explosives on the Fourth of July. They are also believed to have built the un-detonated device that was found later.

It was described as a six inch pipe bomb made out of PVC pipe and packed with sparklers.

The OPD Bomb Squad had to be called in to remove and safely detonate the device after it was found near 52nd and Timber Ridge Drive in Sarpy County.

megalomania
August 17th, 2006, 06:29 PM
OMFG! A plastic tube filled with sparklers! EVACUATE!

You can tell by the terror watch words the gov's are like totally serious dudes... illegal homemade explosive!
Felony charges!
homemade explosives!
un-detonated device!
pipe bomb!
Bomb Squad had to be called in!

And what terrorist holiday was this highly explosive device supposed to be detonated on? Why the 4th of July, not to be confused with Independence Day where we celebrate our freedoms, but 704, which is to be comparable to 911.

Where is Senator Clinton when you need her? We need emergency legislation NOW to ban these sparklers! What if children got a hold of these? Oh wait...

c.Tech
August 21st, 2006, 06:05 AM
This is the stupidest article I’ve ever seen. Even an average person would know that 'bombs' cant be made from sparklers, and the police (should know better) are arresting people.

Children make these all the time. I’ve made at least 6 when I was younger, the police wouldn’t be able to do shit, why would they bother trying to charge anybody?

Could you give a source for this mega?

megalomania
August 21st, 2006, 01:24 PM
I am not sure which news service originally had the story, but here is another article from a few days ago...

http://www.ketv.com/news/9690158/detail.html

This is from KETV7 in Omaha, Nebraska

OMAHA, Neb. -- The Nebraska State Patrol has arrested one man and issued arrest warrants for three others in connection with the discovery of an homemade explosive last month in Sarpy County, according to a news release.

Jason Diaz, 27, of Bellevue was arrested Tuesday. He's facing charges of possession of an explosive device and use of an explosive to damage property.

On July 5, the patrol, the Sarpy County Sheriff's Office and the Omaha Bomb Squad were called to the area of 52nd Street and Timber Ridge Drive in Papillion. The patrol was contacted by an individual who had been picking up debris from the neighborhood area and discovered an unexploded device in the field.

NSP investigators describe the unexploded device as a pipe bomb, containing sparklers as its means of explosives. Only one undetonated device was discovered in the field. The remnants from other exploded devices have been found and damage to a public sign in the area was discovered.

Arrest warrants were issued Tuesday for Gary Mangiameli, 29, and Terry Diaz, 28, both of Omaha, and Craig Cox, 36, of Papillion. Mangiameli and Cox are both wanted on a felony charge of possession of explosive materials. Diaz is wanted on possession of an explosive device and use of an explosive to damage property. Sarpy County authorities expect the three to turn themselves in on Thursday morning.

nbk2000
August 21st, 2006, 02:45 PM
Perhaps they were acting k3wL with their 3LL+ bomb, blowing them up in a public area and attaching them to signposts.

A lot of it has to do with the way you behave.

Sausagemit
August 21st, 2006, 09:47 PM
This is the stupidest article I’ve ever seen. Even an average person would know that 'bombs' cant be made from sparklers, and the police (should know better) are arresting people.


I wouldn't call it a bomb especically from the lack of dangerous schrapnel. But I do have to say that the 4th largest shockwave I have ever felt was from a "sparkler explosive". No. 1 and 2 are both filled by professional mining ANFO explosions and No. 3 is filled by a grain elevator exploding in Scottsbluff Ne (http://www.meigsmagnet.org/~franklint/Tennessean%20article.html). I was a good mile away from No. 3 and I could still feel the pressure on my face and ears.

A friend who's family ran a fireworks stand snagged about $50 worth of sparklers and proceded to duct tape them together as tight as he could. When it was done it was a good 4-5 inches in diameter. I would have to say that the intesity of the shockwave was due to the proximity to the device. And very unpractical for the price but still fairly awsome.

I still wouldn't call it a bomb though.

c.Tech
August 22nd, 2006, 03:13 AM
That so called 'bomb' looks more pathetic than I thought.

I never knew any kind of explosion could come from sparklers. The ones, at least in my area are practically harmless. Filling a can with them doesn’t do anything but shoot high sparkly flames in the air.

Farm safety specialist Tollin Schnieder of Davey said fine airborne sugar dust, like grain dust, can ignite explosively.

And here is an example. http://rapidshare.de/files/31761381/Demo_Dust_Explosion.wmv

nbk2000
August 22nd, 2006, 09:03 AM
The word 'Bomb' has different meanings to different people.

Sheeple and soccer moms aren't going to know the difference between a road flare with an alarm clock taped to it, and a MK84 2000 pound GP bomb with a JDAM Block 2 HTF.

Both are equally scary because they are ignorant of the capabilities and limits of both.

Like when entire apartment complexes are evacuated because someone has a few tablespoons of wet AP in their fridge. :rolleyes:

To us and others 'in the trade', such a thing would be placed in a paper bag to be carried to a fire for disposal.

The JDAM is a BOMB and FAR more powerful, but is also far safer to handle (assuming it wasn't dropped on purpose) than anything homemade will ever be, so is to be feared even less than the AP. (also, because if it did go off, you will not feel it. :p)

Diabolique
August 22nd, 2006, 05:48 PM
NBK: the idea behind evacuating the entire appartment house is not safety, but to disrupt everyone's routine and make the sheep feel they, the government, is doing their job of protecting them from 'terrorists'. So the cops take the opertunity to run around with their stiffies every chance they get (weapons in erection, looking macho and ready for nothing - I know, my brother and brother-in-law are cops in NYC and on LI).

The 'terrorists' they nailed for planning to blow up planes by making TATP and HMTD on the plane remind me of the joke of the ignorant terrorist who was told to blow up a car, and ended up in the hospital after burning his lips on the tailpipe. Both triacetone triperoxide and hexamethylene triperoxidediamine take longer to make that the flight is in the air. I do not know if these people should be locked away for being terrorist wannabies, or to protect them from themselves.

The newspeople are all over themselves because these people had deadly hydrogen peroxide. I guess blondes are about to become an endangered species.

nbk2000
August 23rd, 2006, 02:58 AM
Oh, I know the reason for the drama.

If one guy carried the stuff out in a paper bag, the taxpayers wouldn't be afraid, nor would they feel their taxes well spent.

But when the block is evacuated, and a squad of moon-suited men use robots to carry the stuff out one...bottle...at...a...time, all day long, with flashing lights and armored police with rifles at the ready....well, thank GOD for the POLICE who've saved us YET AGAIN from Eviillll.

Why, no amount of taxes is TOO much to pay for such FINE protection. :p

c.Tech
August 23rd, 2006, 08:44 AM
Both triacetone triperoxide and hexamethylene triperoxidediamine take longer to make that the flight is in the air. I do not know if these people should be locked away for being terrorist wannabies, or to protect them from themselves.

Although still extremely farfetched, AP takes less time to make than a flight to America from the UK. The yield probably wouldn’t be too good but after a matter of hours the peroxide forms, with more forming later.

Now the drying of the peroxide would be harder but still possible. Washing the crystals with ethanol or methanol would let them dry faster, but I’ve noticed, from my attempt that it would probably still take a good 20 minutes.

Originally I herd they were going to use MEKP, I don’t know very much about this explosive but I’m assuming that it would be easier to separate from the water as its an insoluble liquid.