18 months for making AP

[bangerman]

Heard on the radio, that a guy up in Manchester just got 18 months for making and using AP.

Silly fucker blew some doors off his oldmans garage,and was blowing deep holes in his local farmers land.

But it goes to show how heavy the law has come down on people for making Acetone peroxide. And to add another point as from last week, my local chemist has stopped stocking Acetone.

[fiknet]

He was actually a member of the totse forum around that time but they hated him even there and he was banned, he went by the name RedSky and did a very large charge of 12kg of ANNM which there is a video of floating around. He was a very arrogant and stupid person and it was no surprise that he got caught.

[Gerbil]

Idiot. I'd fully support the prison sentence, if it wasn't for the adverse effect on people like, erm, me.

1 more nail in the pyrotechnic coffin. :(

[Lewis]

I'm not sure that says anything about the harshness of laws on explosives.

If he used a backhoe to terrorize his neighbors I'm sure he would have recieved a similar sentance.

[Gerbil]

Perhaps, but the problem is that the media will use it as another example of why to ban everything ;) .

[tmp]

Stupid indeed ! He should've found some place where he'd be out of sight
of his neighbors and local LE. For example, a patch of woods away from
the local area where no one would give 2 shits about what he was doing.
Dumb fucker !

[Jacks Complete]

Manchester in the UK? Or elsewhere?

Manchester has the nickname "Gunchester" now. Residents often don't bother reporting gunshots. Perhaps he just wanted to get in the paper?

[pearlcrash911]

I just did a search for RedSky on totse and apparently he dried his AP in an oven. :eek:

Also, it was amusing to see that he made some "innocent" comments about how he hated his neighbors.

[nbk2000]

Dried AP in his oven?

I wish we had an emoticon of a head shaking in disbelief with a hand held to its eyes in disgust.

But :rolleyes: will have to do. :D

[c.Tech]

apparently he dried his AP in an oven.

I wish we had an emoticon of a head shaking in disbelief with a hand held to its eyes in disgust.


I think a rotting carcass with half a missing head and no arms would be a great one to symbolise him, with an emotion of nbk head shaking emotion looking at the dead moron. Oh wait, I got that mixed up with another kewl, 'phone' :p.

[spaceninja]

I also read abut that guy from Manchester.The news said that he kept a small bottle of AP in a refigerator in his garage and if it was to be knocked the AP would have destroyed all the homes in his neighbourhood,somehow i don't believe this.The guy is a complete fuckwit who dries his AP in an oven and draws attention to himself by making craters in fields and broadcasting the fact that he owns kiddie porn.Stupid sick retarded shit.

[VinniBOOM]

Yeah, he was discovered with child pornographic images on his computer which he had downloaded. Strengthens the fact that he was not just arrested for synthesising the AP. I would say that the explosive charges would have been a minor sentence if he was so perverted towards young people. Sick bastard.

[festergrump]

Not to try to defend a class A moron, but kiddie porn is a tool the piggies like to use as a generic "do-all" reason for going in for an arrest in the first place... it sways the public opinion enough to where it no longer matters what the cops do to you or if their actions are illegal or not during the arrest. Similar was used in the Waco Texas Branch Dividian's case when all else failed to gain public support for federal action, remember.

They're palygomists. Reaction: Who cares?
They've got NFA restricted guns. Reaction: Who cares?
The leader thinks he's Christ. Reaction: Who cares?
He rapes children. Reaction: GET THE SICKO BASTARD!!!

Maybe this guy really did have child porn on his computer. Yeah, that's sick. But even if he didn't have any before the cops got there, he does now...

[c.Tech]

I did a search a while back about Caucasian paedophiles. (Because I thought there were more Caucasian pedos than other races which I later found wasn’t true it just seems that way when you live in a white country)

I ended finding out this.
http://www.glgarden.org/ppp/kent.html
It’s quite shocking but interesting. It now makes me fear of having kids.

But I can say that the chances could have weighed in the tests favour and just because people could get aroused by the sick images doesn’t mean they will have the lack of respect to commit such a crime as raping a child, many people who are attracted to woman don’t go raping when they can’t get any.

[megalomania]

I’ve got news for you, you probably have kiddie pron on your computer if you ever look at Internet porn (the Internet is for porn…). Ever see a thumbnail gallery site? A banner for a porn site? You can’t always control being exposed to porn with redirects, ads, blind links, and the other spammer tricks, and you can determine what might be illegal when you get there. Is a banner ad depicting a nude preteen girl illegal? You may have no idea, but I am sure technically in some twisted way an evil cop could find probably cause to call you a pedophile if they find it on your computer. The charge does not have to stick, it just has to be levied – then you are guilty.

I hear the legal age for Dutch nude models is 16. What’s the difference between a nude 17.999 year old and an 18 year old? Can you tell them apart? One is technically illegal in the US. Also, technically, kiddie porn and pedophilia is only a desire for prepubescent girls. There is another “philia’ for older, but still under 18 girls, but you will still get labeled a pedophile because that is another of those senseless automaton labels like “racist” that propagandists use to instill fear into the people.

[Nihilist]

I hear the legal age for Dutch nude models is 16. What’s the difference between a nude 17.999 year old and an 18 year old? Can you tell them apart? One is technically illegal in the US. Also, technically, kiddie porn and pedophilia is only a desire for prepubescent girls. There is another “philia’ for older, but still under 18 girls, but you will still get labeled a pedophile because that is another of those senseless automaton labels like “racist” that propagandists use to instill fear into the people.

Very true, as the recent Mark Foley scandal proves. Granted, he still abused his position, but it was hardly "pedophilia" given that the boys he was soliciting were 15-17 years old.

[nbk2000]

C. Tech, that Kent study is revealing the truth that people don't want to face.

The male mind is programmed to seek out the best mate for reproduction. That means YOUNG females.

It isn't until the last century or so that humans had any expectation of living past 40, and even less in the centuries prior.

To impregnate a 30 y.o. women was to doom your children to being orphans.

Also, the younger the girl, the less likely she was to have been fucked by others, who could have impregnated or infected her, damaging your reproductive success.

So it's no wonder that the body, evolved over countless thousands of years, responds to the ancient biological imperative that the most transient of social norms says is wrong. :mad:

http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

To say that young girls are sexual is wrong...today.

A century ago it wasn't (otherwise we wouldn't have Alice in Wonderland), and I don't think a century from now that it will be either, as enviromental pollution renders older females sterile.

[megalomania]

The word I am looking for is ephebophilia, which is distinctive and opposite from pedophilia. When sexually attracted to older boys the word pederasty is used. The word paraphilia would also apply to those into sexual things just beyond the socal norm.

All that Japanese love for lolicons, and high school girls could be considered ephebophilia.

What are those recurring hentai plots again, nbk?

Oh, here is a quick guide for anime...
http://www.roguesci.org/images/What is Loli and Non-Loli.jpg

[c.Tech]

C. Tech, that Kent study is revealing the truth that people don't want to face.

The male mind is programmed to seek out the best mate for reproduction. That means YOUNG females.

This all seems very strange to me although it’s true because of another study I saw.

It was on TV some months back and showed that woman's bodies are attractive to men through a ratio of width of the hips and waste. Because girls which haven’t yet hit puberty don’t experienced widening in the hips how can it be so? The study on TV showed sexually developed woman as examples. Both studies contradict each other.

And if the male brain is programmed to seek out the best mate why in many cases does it seek out mates that obviously wouldn’t have eggs to fertilize?

It's a different story if they’re a teen.

[Nihilist]

This all seems very strange to me although it’s true because of another study I saw.

It was on TV some months back and showed that woman's bodies are attractive to men through a ratio of width of the hips and waste. Because girls which haven’t yet hit puberty don’t experienced widening in the hips how can it be so? The study on TV showed sexually developed woman as examples. Both studies contradict each other.

And if the male brain is programmed to seek out the best mate why in many cases does it seek out mates that obviously wouldn’t have eggs to fertilize?

It's a different story if they’re a teen.

True pedophilia, as mega described it, is indeed a paraphilia not associated with normal human functioning, because a pedophile seeks to have sex with younger 'mates' who are incapable of reproduction. However someone who wants to have sex with a 13+ year old girl is probably functioning fairly naturally as the youngest capable mother is probably the best choice, from an evolutionary standpoint.

[Chris The Great]

Did you make that guide Mega? I was laughing for quite some time over that.

Just a thought on the kent study- it seems that a lot of girls start developing quite young, so "below 12" as the study idicates could mean that they have the above body shapes and whatnot that men are programmed to look for.

[festergrump]

I've noticed that alot of preteen girls are looking more and more developed as the years go on, too. I don't know how true it is but someone once told me it had something to do with steroid and other injections into cattle and other food animals that's responsible. Sounds kind of possible, I suppose.

So maybe there's something in the food that gets them to develope early?

There's definitely something in the AIR that gets them pregnant young, though... their FEET! ;)

[Match]

The best age (physically) for pregnancy is around 15 years old....Being attracted (physically) to a girl who has (mostly) completed puberty is natural. Morally, you cannot act upon these urges because of the harm you may cause to the developing individuals intellect. The only difference between a man and a 'pedo' is that one never acts upon his selfish urges. Besides, you ever try talking to a 15 year old girl? You're crazy as an adult if you are attracted to that sort of personality. Heck, I can barely stand most woman.

Don't forget that child pornography laws exist only to protect the children....

[c.Tech]

festergrump, nice theory. I also heard that female hormones in chicken cause men to grow titties, it could also be the cause, I eat less chicken now.

I actually think that the earlier puberty is due to improved medicine because illness can slow development, that’s the explanation for today’s youth being taller than they were 40 years ago.

[nbk2000]

I remember seeing that TV show, I believe it was either Nature or S.A., on PBS.

The hip/waist ratio that is considered ideal is supposed to be .7, with the waist being the smaller of the two. ;)

Females didn't come into puberty until 13-15 in previous centuries. Nowadays, because of all the hormones pumped into dairy and meat animals, females can start menstruating as young as 8! :eek:

This is obviously too young to safely have children, and is a side-effect of tampering with nature.

Another thing is, we don't know what the pictures were they were showing to the men in the Kent study.

Were they seeing pictures of ugly adult females VS. whored-up pedo-bait of 12 (going on 30) year olds? Ever seen JonBenet Ramsey? She was being whored-up by her parents at 4. :(

Studies can be rigged to fit a sponsors agenda. Who funded the Kent study? Neo-conservatives looking for 'proof' to support some new authoritarian measure of future control, like at-birth RFID implantation or DNA'ing, in the guise of 'Protecting The Children'?

Personally, I'm into hoplophilia. ;)

I found the loli/not loli pic on 4chan and sent it to mega during a previous discussion we had on the recurring plot themes in hentai, of which I'd swear there's only 10. :D

[Chris The Great]

I've noticed that alot of preteen girls are looking more and more developed as the years go on, too. I don't know how true it is but someone once told me it had something to do with steroid and other injections into cattle and other food animals that's responsible. Sounds kind of possible, I suppose.

So maybe there's something in the food that gets them to develope early?
I had thought the same thing myself but had doubts as to the validity of it, since although it makes sense it also is the perfect urban legend type fact, "omg evil drugs" and the like. It seems to be the most rational explanation though.

I actually think that the earlier puberty is due to improved medicine because illness can slow development, that’s the explanation for today’s youth being taller than they were 40 years ago.
I'd definately consider that another contributing factor. Also keep in mind better nuitrition being added to food (no matter how much those teens try to starch themselves out of it!) and better living conditions, all beneficial towards growing at a faster rate.

Another thing is, we don't know what the pictures were they were showing to the men in the Kent study.

Were they seeing pictures of ugly adult females VS. whored-up pedo-bait of 12 (going on 30) year olds? Ever seen JonBenet Ramsey? She was being whored-up by her parents at 4.
Definately very valid information. If they showed well developed 11 year olds (or 11.999 year olds to fudge the results) obviously the response is going to be different than some 6 year old.

I found the loli/not loli pic on 4chan and sent it to mega during a previous discussion we had on the recurring plot themes in hentai, of which I'd swear there's only 10.
In my mind, I picture NBK as he described himself in his fictional work, as a massive monster born in the nightmares of men. And he is having a passionate debate with some guy in a lab coat about the plots of hentai, while the legions of doom look on, shifting slightly uncomfortably.

There's definitely something in the AIR that gets them pregnant young, though... their FEET! ;)
And Fester comes through for the win :D That had me laughing pretty good.

[ShadowMyGeekSpace]

In my mind, I picture NBK as he described himself in his fictional work, as a massive monster born in the nightmares of men. And he is having a passionate debate with some guy in a lab coat about the plots of hentai, while the legions of doom look on, shifting slightly uncomfortably.The scary thing is you wouldn't think twice if he walked past you.