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ann
September 21st, 2007, 04:26 PM
Here I will post pics of some weapons,ammo,devices,etc... I have come across in my travels.

If you have any questions about any item just ask.:D

http://i3.tinypic.com/4uv02z7.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/4z3ycnc.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/538kqqs.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/6bodcus.jpg
http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/29227/2003595456620824482_fs.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4m9ftro.jpg

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/28938/2003210614363652070_fs.jpg
http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/28569/2003919533691804808_fs.jpg
http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/29407/2002696346879191512_fs.jpg

nbk2000
September 22nd, 2007, 12:27 AM
The bullets, third from the bottom, on the right, are those glass bullets in copper jackets?

Of course, you could put a description underneath each picture, describing what it is, rather than us having to play 21 questions. ;)

hatal
September 22nd, 2007, 09:39 AM
The first picture : box with hebrew description.

Yes, I second that emotion. A "description underneath each picture", would make me a happier person also. Not too keen on asking about every "item", especially in the "box-o-bulletts".

ann
September 22nd, 2007, 07:35 PM
The bullets, third from the bottom, on the right, are those glass bullets in copper jackets?

Of course, you could put a description underneath each picture, describing what it is, rather than us having to play 21 questions. ;)

I was in a bit of a rush...description under pic is good idea.


The rounds are the same as the top pic with Hebrew.They are a Israeli round used for head shots on planes.The composite bullet breaks up out of the muzzle and the steel BBs go forth to the target.Close range round.

llivne
October 29th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Hi all.

i know Hebrew and can translate the writing on the first box of bullets,
it says:
25 bullets 9 millimeter
for submachine-gun\ an abbreviation I'm not sure about (i think its machine-gun)
series : experimental

Killy
October 30th, 2007, 10:09 PM
Bullets are very interesting, some info could come in handy.

You own those items or you just pictured it/obtained pictures from internet ?

Sardis
November 15th, 2007, 08:36 AM
Those particular bullets look a lot like “rat-shot”.

Rat-shot can be described as: small lead shot loaded into a cartridge not generally considered a shotgun shell.

Rat-shot is used for hunting small vermin and also used in some types of frangible ammunition, such as the Glaser Safety Slug. In these bullets, the shot is glued or sintered together inside a thin shell to form a projectile that fragments readily upon impact, reducing penetration and risk of ricochets.

For all those interested an in-depth article on rat-shot can be found at:

http://www.gunweek.com/2005/feature1001.html

WWII
December 14th, 2007, 01:11 AM
Interesting thread .... I have never seen a coin deployed in this manner, also looks nice as a fingernail cleaner. You could comfortably clean your nails and it is a man's self defense tool. The Hebrew markings in the first photo were certainly interesting with the " see through " bullet.

ann
January 4th, 2008, 02:25 PM
those coins are for the cutting of valve stems...very common item with the oss and soe ....also used by the cia in the 50-60s

You could also clean a nail,cut a rope that had you in a bind and slash a face..but their real use was as a stem cutter for sabotage work:D

TORCHed
January 31st, 2008, 02:54 AM
I think it would be very interesting to witness the test firings of the box of exotic bullets. I'm not quite sure if their intentions might have been to find a new/better/cheaper material than lead, or to create some kind of odd art project.

Boom-stick
February 19th, 2008, 01:12 PM
The third photo down, I believe, belongs to Fred Perrin (famous French knife designer)?

Out of the rest of the photos, I've got 7 of the items myself:)

Anformula
February 19th, 2008, 02:54 PM
This is probably more an item to scare people in movies than something that would actually be practical to use.....but it has to be one of the scariest improvised weapons I have ever seen, on a visceral level....

I don't have a picture....but imagine a standard wood baseball bat. The impact end of the bat is drilled with maybe 30-40 holes, through which are threaded 30-40 heavy wood screws maybe 8" long, so after being threaded through the bat they still protude maybe 5-6". Sort of in the fashion of some of the ancient maces....

Now this is a one hit item, because if you hit someone solidly with this weapon, it is going to be stuck to them. But imagine the damage....and with the threads on the screws, imagine what would be involved in removing it from the victim.....:eek:

I can't remember where I saw the picture of this device......but it was scary....

Ropik
February 20th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Boom-stick: You are right. Perrin's workbench is pretty much knife-lover's dream...

Boom-stick
February 26th, 2008, 12:09 PM
Boom-stick: You are right. Perrin's workbench is pretty much knife-lover's dream...


Mmmm, I do need to add some of Freds toys to the collection....:D

a3990918
March 16th, 2008, 11:08 PM
Several yrs ago the Hi-Standard derringers were popular when mated to a holster wallet. I remember hearing though that the BATF classified this set-up as an AOW, thus requiring an additional tax stamp. If caught with one in your pocket, you were not only in deep caca for a concealed carry but also for an unregistered AOW.:( My question: Would the holster shown in the last pic above fall under this mandate since it does not completely hide the gun? It's rather obvious when exposed that there is a gun there but the Hi-Standard holsters completly enshrouded the gun, with only a hole for your trigger finger to belay the fact there was a weapon in it.

Charles Owlen Picket
March 17th, 2008, 10:41 AM
No, it's cool - ...Does NOT cover the entire weapon to make it "no longer recognizable as a firearm". The actual law was an amendment of the "little machine pistol fired in a briefcase" thing. ....A little hissy-fit over a gimmick.