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phrankinsteyn
March 11th, 2008, 03:10 AM
Dixie gun works sells black powder gun parts. http://www.dixiegun.com
Some items are expensive but you can see what is out there and come up with some ideas of your own.

Numrich arms also sells gun parts. Mostly modern parts but there are older model parts there also, gun barrels and etc. http://www.gunpartscorp.com

a3990918
March 13th, 2008, 10:24 AM
Dixie gun works sells black powder gun parts. http://www.dixiegun.com
Some items are expensive but you can see what is out there and come up with some ideas of your own.

Numrich arms also sells gun parts. Mostly modern parts but there are older model parts there also, gun barrels and etc. http://www.gunpartscorp.com

I live about 100mi from Dixie Gun Works, located in Union City, Tn. It's really intresting to go and tour their facility. Their selection of blackpowder firearms and accessories(everything from derringers to full sized field cannons and Gatling guns):D is phenomenal as well as the inventory of antique, C&R and modern firearms. The late Kirkland Turner was a real firearms aficionado. If you are ever anywhere near Union City, it is well worth the time to stop and browse around.

Charles Owlen Picket
March 13th, 2008, 10:43 AM
This is a very significant issue in that the steel used for BP arms needs flexibility and much less strength than that used for modern firearms. In building a weapon, the steel utilized is very significant and often passed over in design implementation. I think that' s a serious mistake. I've seen modern facilities that test down to the atomic level, the crystalline structure of the steel used in barrels and was told that it represents the very basis of both safety & functionality.

I don't think enough emphasis is placed on this issue when people build weapons. in a BP arm, one has that luxury and perhaps BP is a much more productive way to go. What I mean here is that if someone were to build a weapon, even a cartridge weapon, the use of a lighter propellant might be a much better idea.

Just as an aside.....The WAS a store in Flagstaff, Arizona (on the corner off of main) that sold Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms (in the same store) and had one of the funniest hats I'd seen in a long time. The proprietor was quite a talker too. he had some pretty intense opinions. I don't know if it's still there but it may have even been called the ATF Store, I don't remember. but I do remember that it was right off the main drag and was divided into 3 sections.

a3990918
March 13th, 2008, 11:05 AM
This is a very significant issue in that the steel used for BP arms needs flexibility and much less strength than that used for modern firearms. In building a weapon, the steel utilized is very significant and often passed over in design implementation. I think that' s a serious mistake. I've seen modern facilities that test down to the atomic level, the crystalline structure of the steel used in barrels and was told that it represents the very basis of both safety & functionality.

I don't think enough emphasis is placed on this issue when people build weapons. in a BP arm, one has that luxury and perhaps BP is a much more productive way to go. What I mean here is that if someone were to build a weapon, even a cartridge weapon, the use of a lighter propellant might be a much better idea.

Of course BP is the way to go for an amateur or the person that just wants to say "I built a shotgun outta 2 pieces of pump pipe and a nail". Also in restricted areas were there is a need for improvised firearms made from whatever piece of scrap there is lying around, the safety issue is a BIG factor. May cause a little bit more unwanted attention with the additional smoke (like someone walking around with a drainpipe duct taped to a 2x4 is not going to draw attention anyway), but atleast one has a better chance of coming away with both hands and all ten fingers intact.

Just as an aside.....The WAS a store in Flagstaff, Arizona (on the corner off of main) that sold Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms (in the same store) and had one of the funniest hats I'd seen in a long time. The proprietor was quite a talker too. he had some pretty intense opinions. I don't know if it's still there but it may have even been called the ATF Store, I don't remember. but I do remember that it was right off the main drag and was divided into 3 sections.

Would love to have a hat or t-shirt advertising the place. Sounds like my kind of local market.:cool:

phrankinsteyn
March 15th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Here is a link to a tool I found interesting.

http://www.lockstock.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FRTC1000

It looks like it could prove useful.

They also carry other BP/muzzleloading and shooting supplies.

iHME
March 16th, 2008, 04:49 PM
That WILL prove use full. I think that you just got me a relatively good solution for improvised/homemade/home reloaded primers. I have been thinking abut this for a long time.
Those are not even so expencive whem you think about it. How long will it take to some forumite to make plans for something similar?

a3990918
March 16th, 2008, 07:11 PM
Here is a link to a tool I found interesting.
It looks like it could prove useful.


Yes indeed. There has been some discussion in the Gunsmithing section about improvised ammo and using "Toy" caps as primers. I feel this would be perfect for that use, especially in areas where ammo and componets are restricted or hard to find.

phrankinsteyn
March 17th, 2008, 02:09 AM
Here is a link to another parts company. They carry percussion and flintlock kits plus other items.
http://www.logcabinshop.com


I have a good article (how to build) a 6 gauge BP from start to finish. If anyone is interested let me know. I will scan it, make a pdf file and upload it. It looks like a fun project :) Even shows how to cast your own 6 gauge balls.

a3990918
March 17th, 2008, 03:37 AM
I have a good article (how to build) a 6 gauge BP from start to finish.

Bring it on. Sounds like an interesting project, if nothing else just a good read...:p

phrankinsteyn
March 17th, 2008, 11:18 PM
Uploaded the 6 gauge article/pdf. I put the link in the: Sources of Science – Rogue Science Virtual Library. Let me know what you think after you read it.

MinorFunctionary
May 5th, 2008, 01:08 AM
Black powder parts suppliers in the US for most Itilian reproductions;
WWW.VTIGUNPARTS.COM and http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/accessories.tpl
A lot of these parts can be adapted to origionals as well. VTI has a larger selection but you can find yourself back ordered with both of them.

If one were to convert a cap and ball revolver to fire cartriges using a conversion cylinder, use only a steel framed revolver NOT BRASS. Brass has a tendency to strech and become unsafe or unusable quickly

festergrump
June 30th, 2008, 06:52 PM
Best place I've ever seen for black powder gun parts is Track of the Wolf:

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(h4fd1mvsop0szs45gdd1lfun))/index.aspx

Everything to build your own from the ground up (yes, lock stock and barrel) can be found on THIS (http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(cvj5hb553bsyom55of3la5fh))/categories/catList.aspx?catID=14) page of theirs.

The rifling inserts (barrel liners) are noteworthy for other possible applications, as well. :)