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john_smith
July 23rd, 2002, 04:24 PM
A while back I read about an early (1700-something) attempt of building multiple shot weapons, which incorporated stacking 7 bullets with corresponding powder charges between them into a muzlleloaded rifle barrel. It had a flintlock type device that slid along the barrel which had small holes drilled into it for flame progression. And I also keep hearing about multiple shot pen guns. Does anyone have information about these and/or the concept in general? Needless to say that a pen gun, which is never very accurate or powerful, would greatly benefit from multiple shot capability, and the use of electric ignition could make it's construction much simpler than the said XVIIIth century superweapon. On the other hand, if something goes wrong, a pen gun is a most effective finger remover...

Zero
July 23rd, 2002, 06:29 PM
Hmm. All I know is that you would need mad wadding in there to keep your 7 shot gun from becoming a, well, shotgun. And/or killing you.

~Zero the Inestimable

kvitekrist
July 23rd, 2002, 08:31 PM
the O'Dwyer VLe handgun uses stacking...

<a href="http://www.metalstorm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.metalstorm.com/</a>

<a href="http://www.metalstorm.com/12_odwyervle/vlemenu.html" target="_blank">http://www.metalstorm.com/12_odwyervle/vlemenu.html</a>

some fireworks use it to... roman candle? they use sawdust as wadding

Aaron-V2.0
August 2nd, 2002, 01:51 AM
I've read a bit on Stacking in antique firearm books and seen a bit on the History Channel. Basically they have two flintlocks placed on the barrel, one in the conventional position and one forward 8 - 10 inches. You could fire single rounds with the conventional lock and then stack up to 6 or 7 bullets, powder and wadding. A demonstration on the History Channel showed that it was very similar to a "Roman Candle" in firing time, about one second between shots.

I've also read that in the Vietnam war they made "Multi Bullet" cartridges for the M-60 where the round was split in half so when fired a short spitzer point and a cylindrical slug would leave the barrel. But that's from a few months ago.

Ron McDonald
August 8th, 2002, 05:02 AM
Please do not stack bullets. They have the interesting habit of hurting the user. There are much better ways of accomplishing the same effects in a safer more efficient manner. Accquire a shotgun, they are much more fun, and you can play around with some intersting loads for the shells.

rjche
August 22nd, 2002, 09:56 PM
For 38 cal revolvers, there is a commercial cartridge with two 000 balls in it, and a private loaded one with 3 000 balls in it. They are loaded after powder is put in one after the other till the cartridge is full. Powder is adjusted for the total weight, not to exceed safe pressures. No powder is between balls. Just stacked balls.

They spread out about 3 inches at ten yards, from a 2 inch bbl revolver, giving more shock power.

Same works for 32 cal revolvers using whichever of the balls for buckshot measures 30 cal.