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Slash172
August 20th, 2008, 06:17 PM
If someone were to take a 12gauge slug, 1oz or 4oz, and hollow out the inside, pour in 00buck then liquid Teflon and seal the end with epoxy or whatever, would something like this be possible and how would it affect trajectory?Would the 00 buck being in a liquid cause the ballistics to change in such a way that the desired target would be missed?
I'm doing some research on hydrostatic shock and the concept of creating a 12gauge round like this came to mind as a possible way to increase that form of shock.
This is just a generalization of an idea not a working concept.
Alexires
August 21st, 2008, 02:15 AM
I'd call it a bannable offence, actually.
I've counted 4 pre-existing threads that you could have posted this spoonfeeding newb question in.
I'm doing some research on hydrostatic shock
How about you go do some research on how to follow the fucking rules while you are at it?
486
August 22nd, 2008, 12:15 AM
Wouldn't cutting most of the way through the plastic hull [case] just below the shot, so it breaks away and keeps the shot together to the target do the same thing? You may need to reinforce the crimp on the end though, and use a cylinder-bore shotgun [no choke].
This was talked about in a book, The Protector, It seems that it would work though.
Cobalt.45
August 22nd, 2008, 02:41 AM
...hollow out the inside, pour in 00buck...You are (poorly, as noted by our able mod) describing a bastard son of the Glaser Safety Slug.
In the event you are able to still read this, look it up.
Cobalt.45
August 22nd, 2008, 02:48 AM
Wouldn't cutting most of the way through the plastic hull [case] just below the shot, so it breaks away and keeps the shot together...I doubt that the shot would remain inside the hull. The hull is larger than even a cylinder-choked tube. That's what slugs are for.
You really can't believe everything you read.
lucas
September 14th, 2008, 07:26 AM
The wads in shot-shells are designed to open up after exiting the muzzle and slow down quickly, releasing the shot to fly off. If you were to glue the buckshot together then you may end up binding it to the wad. Binding the shot to the wad would be bad for ballistics.
The choke in the gun would be critical too. Normal shotgun slugs are only meant to be fired through open chokes like cylinder or skeet. Lead shot is soft and can deform fine through a tight choke normally, but if confined within a binder, may not compress properly, damaging the choke. The binder would have to be tough enough to survive the shock of it's acceleration and flexible enough not to cause trouble in the forcing cones or the choke.
I'd suggest only trying with cylinder chocked barrels.
I'd suggest if using a standard wad one try to cover the wad in release compound before binding the shot, removing the bound shot to check it's not stuck to the wad and then reinserting it. Else use a wad that doesn't enclose the shot, only drive it, like a felt wad used in muzzle loading shotguns.
Jacks Complete
September 17th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Cutting halfway through the case will blow the gun to bits, either on the first shot or the second, or after a while when it gets hot and melts to the barrel and sticks there waiting to block the next cartridge.
A very old trick was to open the end and pour molten wax in then close it again. That stuck the shot together so it acted rather like a cheap slug. Pressure spikes and barrel bulges sometimes occur, especially in older guns. I'd suggest using not a lot of (soft) wax and putting it dead center.
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