Weapon Plans

[shootersharp]

Where can i get plans for homemade weapons, submachine guns etc.??? (or where can i buy weapons without a license in Europe?) because i live in Germany, and its very hard here to get guns! NEEDS HELP!!!

[Azazel]

look around for Sten MkII plans

type that in on a search engine
shouldnt be too hard to find

[shootersharp]

Thanks! But the search engines found not something what was real good for making a submachine gun! And normaly i would prefere to buy a complete Gun! Is there no way????

[Heavy Recoil]

Have any good files of of explosives drugs or weapons, I have a few that I didnt trade to Victim, but I wont give them to anyone for free. sten machinist plans and a homemade subgun file I am making.

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[shootersharp]

Please send me the files! Thanks!

[Victim]

Sorry for the lack of books, Im on 56k like I said, and hosting a FTP with a crappy dial up just wont work, so I will wait till I have cable modem, or will try and find somewhere that has a lot of storage space, I might use a web host and a program to split the files into say 500kb files, so I will be able to put a few of the books on there, (as topcities only allow 150mb) hopfully I will have some time spare soon (work..)

[shootersharp]

Waiting there for you...

[J]

Have you thought about using usenet? Just find one of the many empty binary groups, and both parties post their stuff there. It would be simple enough to password protect the zip files in case anyone was lurking in the group. The advantage is that you can post gigs of files in one chunk (not a good idea though, anyone who has an automatic time cut-off won't be able to download the file).

If you don't subscribe to a news server (or your ISP's server is crap) find one at <a href='http://www.newzbot.com/'>http://www.newzbot.com/</a> that allows posting. I think there's a free posting service (that will be listed) run by one of the major providers, it ought to allow binaries.

If anyone is interested in doing this, I'll upload some of my stuff.

J

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[The_Coyote]

these aren't really plans but are a good basis for designs. They are exploded views of various makes of firarms. www.urban-armory.com/blueprints.htm (http://www.urban-armory.com/blueprints.htm)

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[Ragnar]

Go to www.wetworx.com (http://www.wetworx.com)

They have the complete sten mk2 machinist plans under the "conversions" link I believe.

[twinkle]

go to : http://pinfire4.homestead.com/Patents5.html
http://www.derringer.de/index2.htm

the first one is of a patent for a 2mm pinfire gun which only contains of three moving parts and two coil springs and the second one is a German site of all kind of information about derringers it has drawings as well

[nbk2000]

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http://bbs.bianca.com/mforums/s/seymorebuttz/

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[herrbauer]

Sorry, but find guns in Germany (such as Sten MkII) would be almost impossible. One alternative is to search in Tcheck replubic or Italian border, but bring it to Germany is a hard task. The Bundesgrenzeschutz (border police) wouldn't let you breath while in German border. Anyway, try to buy old WWII guns in personal collections and modify it so it can fire. Aufwiedersehen.

[twinkle]

Here you can find the drawings of the ppsh41 and the thomson submachine gun
http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Plaza/2978/

[viper01]

Is this any use to you?
I know there arent any dimensions that is for you to work out.
http://liverdyne.50megs.com/images/smg01.jpg
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[Scientist]

Originally posted by herrbauer
Sorry, but find guns in Germany (such as Sten MkII) would be almost impossible.
No it's not impossible. I know someone who knows a (illegal) gun dealer. So it's not impossible.
If you don't know anyone you still can get in contact with people at train stations. Maybe you'll just find some guys who are selling drugs, but for a small fee they will certainly remember someone who sells guns.
If build a gun yourself you still have the problem of getting ammunition. For this you still have to get in contact with criminal elements.

[Iknownothing]

A lot of battles took place all over Germany. So research where they where. Try to find one that took place outside a small town. Then get a metal detector, you can find guns this way I know of people who do. Once you know what gun you got rebuild it. If you are lucky you will find one not to rusted. This is also a good way to get ammo. (if the ammo was in a box it may still be good)



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Well sh!t

[AsylumSeaker]

The previous post about checking out the old battlesites with a metal detector is not as stupid as it may sound. Anything buried in the dirt will be totaly fucked, but if you manage to find an old bunker or a weapons storage place it may have some useful things in it. If not working weapons, then perhaps you can find spare peices to make your own weapons.
This can be done all around the world. In the vietcong tunnels in vietnam there are hundreds of unfound weapons. Even here in australia you can find relics along the coast leftover from ww2.

[steyr]

shootersharp - You can mail me, I have very short and easy drawings of:
"Slap" 12-Gauge Zipgun
Simple Improvised 9mm (or .38 caliber) Pipe Pistol
22 LR or .22 short Improvised Pipe Pistol
Carbine (7.62 mm NATO)
Simple Improvised 12 gauge Shotgun
Improved Pipe Gun Design (bolt action)
Match Gun
Improvised Grenade Launcher
M79 Design
Mortars

It's very short so I can zip them and send to you.

[FragmentedSanity]

steyr - Why not upload your plans to a web page so everyone can benifit. There are lots of free file storage sites around - then you only have to put it up once and then post us a link. Given the number of times we get asked for weapon plans its fairly safe to assume that lots of people would like to look at them.

[Garbage]

Here are some books that can help you:

Zips Pipes And Pens - J. David Truby - 20 Mb

Expedient Homemade Firearms 9mm Submachinegun – 30 MB

Home Workshop Guns - 9mm Machine Pistol – 34 MB

Home Workshop Prototype Firearms – 45MB

Home Workshop Firearms - Two Pistol Designs – 4 MB

Home Workshop Firearms - .22 machine pistol – 5 MB

The .22 Machine and the two pistols designs you can download at:

http://www.angelfire.com/oz/thegarbage/book/book.htm

The others were too big to put in the ftp.

These homemade guns can be very dangerous. The picture below shows an accident with a pen gun:

http://www.angelfire.com/oz/thegarbage/book/accident.jpg

[steyr]

I can put them to ftp, but they are in two .html files, so I can upload them to my www account. I'll do it in my free time. Maybe someone can make thread "Offering - Looking for" in the LINKS AND LITERATURE forum when we collect more offers?

Garbage, you scared me! That photo shows what happens when you didn't do a "test fire" before using zip gun. It's necessary to shot few bullets far away from you.

[kvitekrist]

My shotgun was made with the simplest of tools. An angle grinder and a powerdrill did most of the work.

http://geocities.com/osteknopp/shotgun.html

here is some pictures.. blueprints wil come.


anyways.. It's 12gauge hammerfired break action :)

[steyr]

Yeah, preety one. What do you think about this drawings? It will work?
LINK FOR THE DRAWINGS OF SHOTGUN (http://steyrphotos.w.interia.pl/shotgundraw.gif)

[McGyver]

Anyone have a pdf on how to do a full-auto conversion on an AK?

Edit: Link (http://www.roguesci.org/theforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=686&highlight=conversion+AK47)

[steyr]

What inner diameter of pipe is used for .22 rimshot? I forgot it :D I'll be grateful for centimeters.

[NickSG]

6mm pipe is perfect for .22LR and under.

I just got through making a tiny .22 zipgun. Its less than 3 1/2 inches long and less than 1 1/2 inches high. IOWs, it can fit just about anywhere, and it still packs a punch. It went through a sheet of 14 gauge steel, so its far from a toy. :)

[Garbage]

The truth about the accidents is that even the tested guns can fail; this is caused by many motives not just wrong test… Incorrect materials like thin pipes after a long time of use can create many fissures in the parts of the guns that receive the tension, after some time al the system is in weariness and soon it will explode or just fail. One of most common problem in guns is the dirty and the rust of propellant’s burn.

All these problems can be solve with a good project, appropriates test and conservation of it. Remember that every time that you pull the trigger an explosion happens near of your face, if the projectile bar the barrel will certain explode…

[dana_m_h]

i am making a screw action 12ga shotgun similar th thae one up there but closer to the one ine the sten gun forum i will post results

[Rhadon]

dana_m_h: i am making a screw action 12ga shotgun similar th thae one up there but closer to the one ine the sten gun forum i will post results I hope that you read my email.

[steyr]

NICKSG: I have BB gun, it has alluminium barrel (6mm) and .22 bullet has too much free space. I thought that I can use 5,5 mm steel barrel with 3mm wall. What do you think? Are .22's powerful enough to kick? That's small bullet, so kick must be small, isn't it?

[NickSG]

My .22LR combo (which weighs nearly 2 pounds, or about a kilogram) doesnt kick near as bad a standard pressure 9mm cartridges, although you do get a recoil. The recoil is soft, but it manages to lift the muzzle about 1 inch with a firm handle.

The pipe I made my .22 zipgun with is 6mm ID. The .22LR is 5.56mm in diameter, so the fit isnt that loose. The walls must be at least 3mm though. The .22 is a much higher pressure cartridge than most people think it is, so unless you have a strong pipe the barrel will rupture. Always test fire it no less than 30 feet away from you before firing it in your hands. Look for any stress marks, and if there arent any, then the pipe is strong enough.

[Radiant]

at http://www.varkoume.com/shared/index.php?usr=Aquilifer88 there are lot of ebooks on homemade weapons and such, free to download. you need emule though... and i know some of the files (actually a lot of the files) there have some "questionable" contents, but lots of the stuff is good tough.

[Jacks Complete]

As a way to try to keep some of you guys a little safe, how about you look at how the pros test if a gun is safe?

Look up "Proof testing" and see the accepted way that almost every gun in the UK for the past 300 years has been tested, and try that.

Obviously, if you let your gun rust to bits, it will still fail!

[xyz]

To clear a few things up...

The .22LR bullet is not 5.56mm in diameter, because it is actually .223 and not .22, and therefore it is 5.66mm. The diameter of the casing (note to newbies, casing, not rim) is even larger, being 5.71mm, so your pipe has to be at least 5.71mm to accomodate a .22LR.

This means that .22LR definitely won't fit in a 5.5mm barrel (so don't bother trying steyr).

If you want info on cartridges then go to ammoguide, it is an excellent resource for zipgun makers. Ammoguide (http://www.calweb.com/~haas/ammoguide/)

[NickSG]

5.56 and .223 are the same. Otherwise you wouldnt be able to shoot a .223 winchester from a .5.56mm.

[Ammonal]

XYZ and NickSG you are both close to the truth, but not quite. The calibre of a barrel is given as the diameter of the rifling grooves and the islands in between.
Thus a 5.56mm projectile = 5.56/25= 0.2224", and a .223= .223*25=5.575mm. This is the OD of the projectile that is the part of the projectile that is gripped by the rifling grooves. The difference in diameter is only negligable and allows .223 to be fired in a 5.56 and vice versa.

If you need a barrel for a .22, use piece of 20mm mild steel rod and a 15/64 drill bit to drill the chamber, and a 5.5mm drill for the barrel. Now before you say "that is insane it is way too small" take a round chainsaw file that fits into your barrel and put a power drill onto the end of the file and spin it with a small amount of oil on the file moving the file in and out of the barrel. this enlarges the bore by a few thousands. once this is done. Get some steel wool, put a ball of it onto the end of a piece of steel rod and run the wool up and down the barrel with a twisting motion. Doing so leaves lots of small scratches in a slightly spiral direction. Whether this helps, is unknown to me but a 3" inch barrel made in this way shoots a cluster of 8" at 20 metres.

If you do not wish to take the time and effort just get the longest 15/64 drill available and drill the hole barrel with it. It is oversize but it works and is very quick to produce. If the barrel is made in this manner to unload you would have to poke the empty shell out of the chamber using a piece of rod or similar.

[ossassin]

Yes, a .223 is 5.56mm. To my knowledge, all of the bullets that you've mentioned have the same diameter, such as a .22 short, .22, .22LR and .223. If you want your gun to be accurate enough to even be classified as a firearm, your barrel must have a diameter that is equal to or smaller than that of the bullet. The rim at the rear of the casing is NOT designed to actually enter the barrel. :rolleyes: In fact, it doesn't even enter the chamber.

Although it will make the project more complicated, I would definately suggest making a chamber that is seperate from the barrel. Also, how are you planning on rifling the barrel? I hope you're not going to use a smoothbore! :eek:

One last suggestion: since the .22 is such a small caliber that generates so little pressure, how about supressing it? The supressor itself would be much easier to make than the gun, and in modern warfare, you would probably not last long with a homemade .22 that's not supressed (audio supressor, not flash.) That's an entirely different topic, though.

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I'm sorry for repeating all of that. You must have posted while I was typing mine, Ammonal. A tube with some steel-wool scratches is NOT a barrel: not one that will last long, anyway. You need to grind grooves in a uniform spiral down the barrel. I have no idea how to do this. The grooves should be fairly thin and shallow. Since the projectile is so short, the rifling would not have to be very tight in order to stablize it. 1:12 (1 rotation for every 12 inches) or less ought to be fine.

The cartridge should fit in the chamber snugly, but should slide in easily. For reliability purposes, you might want to consider throating the chamber.

[PHAID]

For the purpose of a zip gun the rifling is a nice option but not needed.

90% of shootings are at around 7 feet so for its purpose a smooth barrel will do fine.

I have made several zip guns in .22cal for testing and with a standard 1/8in pipe they work quite well up to around 30ft befor accuracy is aa big issue.

As for silencers for them its quite easy to make simple ones that work reasonably well but if you want good sound reduction it takes some work. (not that id try it due to the legal issues);)

[ossassin]

I wonder how hard it would be to integrate a silencer into the barrel design. Many models of guns do this, but I don't know how the mechanics would work. Does anybody know anything about that?

[NickSG]

Rifling a zipgun barrel is pointless, although it does increase the bullets velocity (and accuracy, of course). I wouldnt bother with it through. A 4 inch smooth barrel will easily get the bullet over 900 FPS, plenty of velocity to do some serious damage, and from just 10 feet away you can hit a pop can 4 out of 5 times.

A couple of months ago I posted a link on how to make a simple suppressor. I dont have time to look for it right now, but it shouldnt be too hard to find.

[ossassin]

Well, I guess it really depends on the intended use. Are you making this because you want a gun and can't legally purchase one, or are you making it for a one-time-use thing where you'll have to sneak up behind someone and plug 'em? (I'm not saying that one should do this, but I'm simply addressing the possible applications of such a "zip" gun.)

If you want a good gun that you can keep to use whenever you may need one, such as with a burgler or in a "when the shit hits the fan" situation, you'd probably want a rifled barrel. They are more accurate and more durable. Commercial smoothbore firearms are unheard of.

If you just need a gun to...erm...take care of someone, by all means, go with the smoothbore. It's fast, simple, cheap, and gets the job done at close range. Ultimately, it's up to you and what the gun will have to be capable of.

Edit:

When i stated that commercial smoothbore firearms were unheard of, I meant breach-loaded firearms (not muzzleloaders.) I'm sorry for the confusion.

[xyz]

NickSG, I didn't say that 5.56mm was different from .223, I just said that .22LR was .223 in diameter (not .22) and that this is actually bigger than 5.56mm (which you said was the diameter of a .22LR).

Incidentally, the 5.56mm bullet is actually .224 in diameter and so is quite a bit bigger than 5.56mm.

Use ammoguide for gods sake.

[dana_m_h]

I am not going to point fingers but many companies build and sell smooth bore... but they are blackpowder... You cant make a rifle a smoothbore because therefore it is nolonger a rifle it is a shotgun as a figure of speech. If you really want to try to get a rifled barel it still can be bigger than you need but it wont be accurate, to make it more accurate you can do what many blackpowder rifles do, that is use a patch. Also your bullet's patch must be greased or the bullet could rip through the patch and leave it in your barel, leavin you with a mess and a problem... do what you want, but there is always a downside even if it is professionaly manufactured: pro manufactured will make you need a permit or will leave a paper trail... so youve always got a downside

EDIT: grammer

[Arkangel]

5.56 and .223 are the same. Otherwise you wouldnt be able to shoot a .223 winchester from a .5.56mm.

So how does that work with interchanging .38 and .357 ammo? I always understood you could swap them - maybe it was using the .357 in the larger barrel. Maybe it was that lead bullets are more malleable. Maybe I just don't have a clue what I'm talking about?:p

Speaking of which dana, wtf are YOU going on about? Your downside appears when you start writing. Might I venture to suggest that you think a little more before you post?

What size are people reaming their zip barrels? I always thought they were 5.5mm, as that's a more common ream size.

[ossassin]

Dana, I was not talking about muzzleloaders! Seeing as how muzzleloaders are obsolete in modern warfare, I was correct in saying that smoothbores are obsolete. :rolleyes: A rifled barrel will be more accurate than a smoothbore, and for reasonable accuracy, the barrel can not be larger than the bullet. A makeshift smoothbore could be larger, but since it won't have riflings, it's going to be a piece of crap, anyway. It would work at close range, but it's definately not something I'd bet my life on.

[NickSG]

The .38 special is actually .357 caliber., but do not confuse the .38 special with other .38 calibers. The .38 S&W is .36, and the .38 super is .355, I think. The .380 is also .355.

The .38 special can be shot from a .357 wheelgun, but a .357 magnum can not be shot through a .38 special. The .357 magnum is loaded to much higher pressures than the .38 special, not to mention the magnum is about 1/4 inch longer.

[xyz]

Arkangel, I have never tried but from the info I have, there is no way you could even get the .22LR bullet (according to ammoguide - 5.66mm) into a 5.5mm hole, let alone the casing (which ammoguide says is 5.71mm).


And before anyone says that the casing isn't meant to fit into the barrel, this may be true with most firearms but it makes zipguns much more simple if the casing does fit (note: I am talking about the casing, not the rim). The other advantage to having a barrel a bit large is that your zipgun will be able to fire all .22 Rimfire calibres interchangeably (yes, even .22Mag, because there is enough extra space for it's slighlty larger diameter case).

6mm sounds like the best diameter for .22 Zips, and if you really wanted a bullet that was a good fit, you could use a .243 bullet with a .22 blank behind it (make sure your gun is strong because a heavier bullet means much higher chamber pressures).

[ossassin]

xyz, it was designed for a 5.56mm barrel, despite what "ammoguide" may say. It's common knowledge. Assuming that the barrel is rifled, the bullet will deform inside of the barrel. This is what allows you to use a barrel with a smaller diameter than that of the bullet. I don't really know what a smoothbore would do to the bullet. It might work.

[xyz]

Ah, OK then. Wouldn't the barrel start off as 5.66mm though and then taper down? I ask because if the barrel was 5.56mm as soon as it started, then wouldn't you be unable to chamber the round?

And don't speak dubiously of ammoguide, it is an excellent program with the cartridge and bullet dimensions for pretty much any commercial or wildcat round you can think of. The error was entirely on my part.

I still wouldn't want to try that with a smoothbore because of there being no "empty space" between the rifling grooves for the bullet to squash into. I suppose that in a rifled barrel, having it 0.1mm too small would help the bullet to grip the rifling, but there is no advantage to that with a smoothbore.

[ossassin]

XYZ, I just took out my trusty .30-06 to answer your question. A bullet would not fit in the muzzle end of the barrel. Also, the bore seemed to ohave a consistent windth. From what I could tell without completely dismantling it was that a bullet would not fit in the breach end of the barrel. The part of the chamber that holds the bullet was significantly smaller than the bore. The force created when the rifle is fired must be strong enough to cause the bullet to instantly deform. Once some of the metal has been pressed into the rifling grooves, so that the bullet has essentially shrunken to the width of the bore, the bullet is spun and stablized as it travels through the barrel. I hope that helps.

[Ammonal]

The copy of "Home Workshop Firearms - .22 machine pistol" that I have is missing some (about 7 - 10) pages. I am quite disgruntled about this because it has halted my "theoretical" construction of the firearm detailed within the book. Has anyone got a complete copy of this book(Check all the page numbers)? I would greatly appreciate this and I would love to post pictures of the finished "theoretical" item.

[ossassin]

Ammonal, you should find everything you need at this site (http://www.angelfire.com/oz/garbagelive/book/book.htm) . This was originally posted by another member, though I don't remember who.

[Ammonal]

Ossasin: Unfortunately this is where I originally sourced the book from.
I just picked up the seamless pipe and some bright rod (harder than normal steel, 4130 I think) for the upper receiver and bolt respectively. I have all but finished polishing the lower receiver and have just got to polish the trigger group and then if I can get the pages on the bolt and barrel then I should be able to finish the project.

Once I again if anyone has a complete copy of "Home Workshop Firearms - .22 machine pistol", could you please direct me to a source for it please.:confused:

[Ammonal]

Has anyone who has a copy of this book willing to upload it and any other books? I have just gotten 150mb of hosted space and I personally want this book, and it seems that there is members that would appreciate some http storage for files of a similar nature.

[xyz]

Ammonal, all 6 of the Home Workshop Firearms books are on the FTP, along with the Home Workshop Firearms video.

Another 9 posts and you can apply for access.

[Ammonal]

Thanks XYZ, I had not seen it written anywhere that there was a minimum number of 50 posts to get access to the FTP instead only it would be considered on the contributions made on the E&W forums.

[xyz]

I have seen it somewhere but I can't remember where, IIRC it also said that members with less than 50 will be accepted under special circumstances.

[FragmentedSanity]

From memory the 50 post minimum was a guideline set out by Ctrl_C way back when he first set up the FTP, aimed mostly at keeping people who had just signed up from pestering him. From memory the idea was that once a newbie had survived 50 posts they probably had a fair idea of how things work here, had contributed something to the community and could appreciate the fact that FTP access is a MAJOR privelage.
As with all else here tho - sheer volume of post was never the determining factor - just a helpful guideline. Quality contributions is the way to go about getting access. If you feel youve contributed it cant hurt to go through the application procedure. Its ultimatley up to Chemwarrior to decide if your found worthy. Remember you can upload to the FTP even without an account, which is of course a nice way of contributing.

[TreverSlyFox]

First lets dispell a myth. Smooth bore weapons can be accurate, are accurate, have been accurate for over 500 years. Granted a rifled barrel will be more accurate than a smooth bore if all else is equal.

The Brown Bess of 1776 was a .75 caliber smooth bore musket that was accurate to between 75 - 100 yards. This was the weapon that armed the British Forces which at the time was the worlds Super Power and had not been defeated. All that is really required for an accurate smooth bore is that the bullet must be a tight fit in the barrel. Thats why in a muzzel loader you use either a "patched" round ball or an expanding base bullet.

Most smooth bore shot guns will fire a slug accurately out to 75 yards and in fact most will group in 6" at 75 yards. That's because shot gun slugs are designed with an expanding base. If you want an accurate smooth bore .22LR Zip Gun then just use a barrel that is 1-2 thousandths SMALLER than the bullet itself (the bullet not the cartrage). I have made several .22LR zip guns in my misspent youth that would group 6" at 25 yards that were smooth bores. Granted that's not the 2-3" accuracy of a modern rifled hand gun but it's well within Center-of-Mass on a man size target at 25 yards.

If you can find a rifled barrel for your zip gun fine, if not just find a smooth bore barrel that's a tight fit for the bullet and your still good to go. Easiest way to tell if it will work is to see if you can force the bullet down the barrel with just your thumb. If it goes in with strong thumb pressure alone and shaves a small ring of lead off the bullet it should be fine.

Just an FYI: Most Police street shootings are at less the 7 yards (21 feet) with 3 rounds fired in 6 seconds.

[smokepole]

I am a newbie and just want to know if anyone has built the 9mm from the Expedient homemade firearms book. It just arrived last night (hooray!) and was wondering if there was anything I should be aware of?

[Jacks Complete]

smokepole,

I have that book, bought as a vote for Luty, and against oppression.

The design is superb. I have looked carefully, and see no flaws in it.

An interesting project would be to turn it into a CAD model... Something to do if I ever get off these boards, perhaps!

[thepyrolooz]

Steyr would you please make the books you got to a zip file, and upload it. You could always just host it on www.tripod.com Myself and i'm sure others also are interested in these books!

[smokepole]

I hope I am not speaking out of turn here, but does anyone know where to buy a 1:50 tapered reamer that isnt a fortune? or are there other alternatives? Thanks for listening to a newbie's rants.

[steyr]

Yeah, I can, but they are... hmmm... howto's? They are very short, so they aren't books. I'm going to post it in the minutes.
EDIT:
Thing that I want to post is WHITE RESISTANCE MANUAL, and there's more survival how to's (weapons caching, poisons)

[steyr]

There it is:
steyrphotos.tripod.com/index.html

[Blackhawk]

Your link dosn't work for me, even when I copy/paste the shortcut in :S

[steyr]

Uhhh
Please Note: You are no longer an authorized member of Tripod. You have been removed because your web site violated our Terms of Service or you chose to self-delete.
Strange...

[Ammonal]

I have a copy and can upload it in a couple of hours if anyone shows interest

[jonesy]

On the subject of plans of any nature i have a copy of most of the home workshop books and so forth but i am unable to print them, due to the light scaning of the text and images, reading of the computer is a pain in the neck. iv tried to make the pdf files more darker but have not sucedded. has anyone sucesfuly printed any of these plans???
i posted this before over a week ago but it didnt apear in the thread, so I've retried.
thanks

[xyz]

Ammonal, upload that please.

Any E&W related files, warez, etc. are all welcome on the FTP, pretty much anything except for porn and music.

[Voyager]

Steyr:

I hate be negative, but... the WRM is just crap stolen from other places, edited poorly, and cobbled together. It's crap.

And, because Aquilifer uploads it under dozens of different names, I've download that accursed document several dozen times. It's a scourge of the P2P networks.

[Ammonal]

The file that steyr had on his website is just a copy of the White resistance manual V2.4 which I noticed is on the FTP, cant remember whether it was in E&W or uploads, but either way it will end up in E&W so... I wont bother adding another copy of something which IMO is a pretty ordinary manual and vague in most departments.

[Miller]

I drew up these simple plans for a wrist mounted cross bow. I hope the fact that I did them in paint won't be a stumbling block to most people (I couldn't get acsess to a CAD program). Well I don't know how the picture shows up but if one cant figure them out, i will try to post further details.

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Rhadon

[Ammonal]

Can the image in the previous post be edited so that it does not stretch the window please! It is very pleasing to see peoples new and wonderful concepts and creations but it just isnt any good when it stretches the text off the screen and the page has to be scrolled across to be read.

[Miller]

I am sorry about the size of the last image, I hope this is image works better. Like I said I will try to get my hands on a CAD program, this more advanced drawing will include three views and all the dimensions, as well as some ideas that were imposible to express with paint.

[smokepole]

I have a small .22 cal derringer that I have drawn in Visio (sorry no cad program yet) but I don't know how to post the images? Would someone please help a newbie.

[Rhadon]

Click the "New Reply" button and attach the image.

[akinrog]

Hi,
I am a newbie and I have 2 of the homemade firearms books. But I am dire need of the other 4 books you specified. I have made some small contributions but I don't know whether or not they are worthy of being granted access to FTP. Can someone put it on Overnet P2P network or give me a clue to how to get them. I am living in a very oppressive and restricted country where even having knowledge of "dangerous" information may make you a terrorist to be prosecuted. So I cannot purchase them directly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Regards

[smokepole]

Here is a set of plans I am working on for a .22 cal derringer derrived from a German pinfire gun Its in visio, because I do not have a cad program right now, and its a lot better than paint.

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Sorry, but 250 kB for two visio files (which 100 people will download an 2 will be able to open) is inacceptable. You can either upload it to your own webspace and link it or upload a (preferrably smaller) file in a more common format (like PDF, WMF, GIF, JPEG...).

Rhadon

[smokepole]

Sorry about the size of the visio files here they are in wmf format until I get my site up and running.:o

[Miller]

Is the MAC10 a gun that would be plausible to make at home? I have only ever heard vague references to them, and they never seem to be directly addressed. If plans of this weapon are available on the internet, I would be thankful for the URL. Thank you.

[smokepole]

Miller

try www.biggerhammer.net they have a vast number of blueprints that you can download in PDF format.

[smokepole]

I was wondering if any of you have seen blueprints for a Kolibri 2.7 mm miniature pistol from the 1930's?

[ossassin]

The MAC-10 probably won't be too easy to make. I'd recommend something like a Sten Mk II. It should be easier to make on your own than most guns, or you can buy a parts kit and an 80%-finished receiver.

[Dave the Rave]

A Mac10 is perfectly made by home. In fact, it is the main weapon on street gang´s arsenal at my Country. One time the black & white seized about 200 guns at an clandestine factory.

Here they made it with comercial avaliable steel plates, cut and welded with an regular arc welder. Even the magazine is made this way.

You can find an reliable pdf blueprint at http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/survival-lib/firearms-pyro.html

look at m11 blueprints.

[Miller]

Umm... I didn't see anythiny pertaining to the Mac10 or m11 blueprints. Maybe you could elaborate on where to find these plans? And I would also be interested in hearing more about the guns that you all manufacture.

[ossassin]

Miller, it's called "Building the M11-9 Handbook - Pictures." I'd be very interested in building one, but I don't have that machinery. How hard would it be to make, and would I need anything big like a lathe or a milling machine?

[xyz]

I would say that you would need a lathe (or access to one) to turn down the barrel and chamber it. A milling machine would probably be needed (or accessed) for making the forming dies for bending the various sheet metal parts into shape.

If you want a simple SMG design then have a look at "Expedient Homemade Firearms - The 9mm Submachinegun" by PA Luty. It needs only a drill, angle grinder, and simple hand tools. The downside is that it is smoothbore so accuracy isn't the best, but from what I've heard about the Mac-10 and Mac-11, this shouldn't be a problem :p .

[ossassin]

Is that on the FTP? I've applied for access, and I'm still waiting for a response.

[Jacks Complete]

Groan,

guys, please. The two rounds, 5.56mm NATO, and .223 Remington (not Winchester!), are, effectively interchangable. However, the military spec. 5.56 is loaded to a higher pressure than the SAMMI spec for .223. This, combined with other slight differences in the specs, means that 5.56mm NATO spec rounds will sometimes cause problems in tightly specified match .223 Win rifles. Go search around on one of the target rifle forums, and you will find reams about this.

The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers'
Institute (SAAMI) warns against using military
5.56mm NATO ammunition in sporting rifles chambered
for the .223 Remington unless the manufacturer of
the arm has been consulted. Apparently there has
been significant variations in chamber dimensions
used by some makers, and it is possible that
excessively high chamber pressures could result.
It should also be noted that the military 55-gr.
M193 Ball cartridge may not stabilize with faster
than a 1-in-9" rifling twist.

As a second, and cautionary, tale, NEVER assume that any round will be the diameter of the name! Even some modern rounds are not the metric value of the name, and almost all imperial named cartridges are not what it said on the tin!

.38 Special and .357 Magnum are actually the same physical size of lead bullet (.357"), as is .44 (Rem) Magnum and .44 (S&W) Special. The nominal diameter of them are not the same as the name, as they are both .43"! Sometimes the distance is taken across the lands of the rifling, sometimes from land to valley, or valley to valley, sometimes across the case outer edge, and sometimes it is purely historical reasons! The 6mm Flobert-Rundkugeln (Flobert cap) is so named because it is 5.58mm in diameter, is nominally .22" in diameter, but, is 6mm long, but, in fact, it is 6.18mm long!!

Many examples can be found by looking on Ammoguide (http://www.ammoguide.com). The quote above shows that even manufacturers get it wrong!! Take care, too, as Ammoguide may not be perfect either... Once you decide, go and look at various reloading sites, as they often discuss the different types and sizes of bullets.

The good news is, as long as the bullet isn't hard (i.e. lead!) and the pressure doesn't blow your gun to bits, you can stuff whatever size (within reason) you like down it.

A common "gangsta" twat gun here is a Brocock conversion (an air pistol, now as illegal as a machine gun!) which cuts nearly half the bullet off as it goes from the cylinder to the barrel! Hence people catching the bullets with two hands...

[flamingfrog]

there are detailed sten mkII plans at this site

http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/sten_mk2_complete_machine_instructions.pdf

[xyz]

Ossassin, yes, it's on the FTP under several different names. The two that I can remember are "Expedient Homemade Firearms - The 9mm Submachinegun" and "Ehf9mmsmg".

Jack's Complete, Interesting about a .22 bullet being fired in a .177 air pistol barrel. Probably some of the pressure gets releived as gas escapes from the gap between the cylinder and barrel.

[Dave the Rave]

The mac 10/11 isn´t hard to build. Sure you will need an lathe and an milling machine, but you can hire an machinist to do it for you.

The barrels are not a problem, you can purchase it at any parts dealer, then cut it down the size you want, crown it with an dreamell and make the adjustments needed with common tools. If you wishes to make your own barrel, then you must find the proper shaft, cut it, take it to your machinist and ask him to drill it the proper diameter. tempering, crowning and adjustments are accomplished at home.

I don´t bore with rifling an smg barrel, it won´t be much precise anyway !

About the forming dies, you have two options, make all the plain parts with steel plates, cut and welded together or ask your machinist to make the dies, wich you will use to make smgs to all your family and friends. It won´t be a problem either, cause teh dies don´t rise any supicion, even on the king of the clever machinists.

[ossassin]

This is pretty unrelated, but if you don't get any response after applying for FTP access twice, can you assume that you've been rejected? Should I try again? Would someone mind posting that book someplace where I can access it? Thanks.

[Blackhawk]

On that note I aplied over a week ago, has my form, been lost or is chemwarrior just away/swamped atm. (sorry for being so OT but I thought it would be better adding to this OT rather than starting yet another wartercooler thread, or modifying one of the FTP threads)

[Voyager]

Anyone have reasonably good plans for a slam-fire shotgun?

I want to build one with the following limitations: It must be built only from parts available at Home Depot and utilizing no power tools.

(Note: I have power tools and quite a few firearms, this is for a "project".)

[smokepole]

Here is a pdf that i pulled from the White Resistance Manual (don't agree with their ideals, but I like looking at the pretty pictures):D

[smokepole]

Here is another detailed drawing of a simple .22 caliber twist barrel derringer. Sorry that I don't have any pics but I am still gathering materials.

[Beethoven_1983]

I've seen some nifty airrifles at pyramydair.com, its a precharged pneumatic airrifle...DAMN! I want one of those...If you check it out, you'll find sniperrifles in almost every caliber known to man. I found this .50 cal. rifle there,,,*bliss* http://pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=486

[Beethoven_1983]

Does anyone feel a sudden urge to make this kind of airrifle themselves in some kind of twisted dream? I've started to make some calculations, and the airrifle at pyramydair.com has a chamber that can keep a pressure up to 12 bar, and fire a .50 caliber slug (They got all kind of ammo too; Hollow-point, dumdum, round-nose and tip-pointed, sharp projectiles) and the velocity of firing are close up to 12-1300 f\s.
I can imagine some of you got some ideas to share,,,hehe

[Jacks Complete]

xyz,

the Brococks are mostly .22, but the round goes in at an angle due to the firing pin being central, and the .22 rinfire being, well, a rimfire. It's a revolver, so they don't always line up perfectly to begin with, either. You get shite coming out sideways, basically!

[ossassin]

I just got Expedient Homemade Firearms: 9mm Submachinegun (Vol I), Home Workshop Firearms: 9mm Machine Pistol (Vol II), More Workbench Silencers, The Silencer Cookbook: .22 Rimfire Silencers, and, of course, Mein Kampf. Are these on the FTP? If not, I'll upload them.

EDIT:
By the way, The 9mm SMG (Vol I) does not requre machining tools. It looks pretty simple.

[jelly]

Are these on the FTP? If not, I'll upload them.
Yes, all books you have mentioned are on the FTP.

There are 3 main sources of all the PDF's floating around on the internet:

1. The FTP (and the forumites who have scanned in all the nice books)
2. The old Swedish Infomania site
3. The Aquilifer site (with the "Homemade Firearms..." stuff written by Bill Holmes)

If you want to contribute books to TheForum, buy or borrow E&W related books and create your own PDF's.

[ossassin]

It looks like I won't be given any chances, anyway. Thanks for the info, though.

[jelly]

What's the problem? Since you are living in the USA, you should find all of the nice "Paladin Press" and "Loompanics Unlimited" stuff at local bookstores.

If you don't want to buy or borrow books or if you don't have a scanner, then do this:

- grab one of the pocket-sized mini-DV camcorders with a good wide-angle lens
- go to a local bookstore and grab an interesting E&W related book
- turn on the camcorder and then leaf through the book... in a distance of about 1 feet from the lens.
This will just take 1-2 minutes per book (~ 30 books fit on a single miniDV cassette :)).
- go home and import the film into a video program like Adobe Premiere or Ulead Media Studio Pro
- export all pages of the book as .jpg files (bitmaps)
- load the bitmaps into Adobe Photoshop and rotate, scale, crop and save them
- load the bitmaps into Adobe Acrobat to create a .PDF file of the book we all are waiting for ;)

A book recorded with a camcorder (mini-DV format: NTSC resolution = 720*480, PAL resolution = 720*576)
is better than nothing.

[ossassin]

Is it possible to get a free copy of Photoshop? It's pretty expensive.

[zaibatsu]

Its very easy, just go to the warez sites.

[ossassin]

I felt that this was the most appropriate place for this question. Where can I get information on making my own drum magazines? It would help if there was info. on how to adapt them to such weapons as the Expedient Homemade Firearms: 9mm Submachinegun. Thanks.

Also, how hard would it be to convert the design to fire a .45 ACP instead of a 9mm? Since the design is a smoothebore, and therefore not very accurate, i'd rather have the punch of the .45 than the accuracy and penetration of the 9mm.

[Bigfoot]

Since the design is a smoothebore, and therefore not very accurate, i'd rather have the punch of the .45 than the accuracy and penetration of the 9mm.

Dude, I hope you're not referring to the design in Home Workshop Firearms: 9mm Submachine Gun, because my reading of the book gives me to understand the preference for a rifled barrel. Unrifled being the ultimate makeshift solution. Author even shows a method for rifling the homemade barrel. Even I could dope out a way to adapt the method to use a drill bit for a pattern, and pantograph-type device to amplify movement.

[ossassin]

From Expedient Homemade Firearms: 9mm Submachinegun
Making a rifled gun barrel would require, at the very least, a lathe and a rifling machine. Relatively few people own a lathe, and even fewer own a barrel rifling machine-not to mention the ability to use them. On any firearm that is truly homemade, the accuracy of the rifled barrel must be compromised for the ease of construction the smoothe-bore version offers. While the accuracy of the handgun or rifle is important, the machine gun's inherent firepower means accuracy is of secondary importance. Reliably getting as many bullets to the target as possible is the main consideration.
You may be thinking one of Bill Holmes' other books, the 9mm Machine Pistol.

[xyz]

To clear things up,

Expedient Homemade Firearms was written by PA luty, not Bill Holmes. His design is meant for ultimate simplicity and uses a smoothbore barrel.

The Home Workshop Firearms books are written by Bill Holmes and use rifled barrels, however they require a lathe and milling machine, unlike Luty's design.

I'm sure that you could use a rifled barrel on Luty's SMG design, but you would require access to lathe to turn the barrel down and chamber it (And this is assuming a rifled blank is available, which is sometimes isn't).

Luty originally wrote the book for people in the UK, where barrels are a restricted item, people in the US or Australia should be able to get hold of a rifled barrel for their SMG.

[zaibatsu]

This may be slightly more complicated for people without access to the FTP, but there is the PDF of the minuteman SMG floating about somewhere, which strikes me as a simple .45ACP SMG.

[Bigfoot]

To clear things up,

Expedient Homemade Firearms was written by PA luty, not Bill Holmes. His design is meant for ultimate simplicity and uses a smoothbore barrel.

The Home Workshop Firearms books are written by Bill Holmes and use rifled barrels, however they require a lathe and milling machine, unlike Luty's design.



Thanks for the correction; my error.

Haven't seen the book by Luty; have read the ones from Holmes, including the Streetsweeper book he wrote.

Thanks again for setting me straight.

An off-topic question for Britons: how much is a "stone" in weight? Pounds or Kg, I don't care.

[zaibatsu]

Is the streetsweeper book actually by Holmes? I got it today, and it looks pretty good, I thought it may be by him when I recognised the photos from the Home Workshop Prototype Firearms. I'm going to upload it to the FTP, as soon as I get this damn laptop set up.

Btw, 1 stone = 14 pounds.

[ossassin]

xyz, my copy says "Bill Holmes." It says that he made the gun in it, because he couldn't use his machining tools. I have the minuteman book, but it is in pictures (.jpg's). Is there a .pdf out there?

[zaibatsu]

The PDF is from some magazine that I think must have published the blueprints in full, and the PDF contains improvements to the original design. If my memory serves me correctly it was from some American mag called Firepower, or something similar. I can't remember where I picked it up, probably from a yahoo group or similar, but I think it's on the FTP now.

[PHAID]

I think i have that issue, Ill look for it and scan it if you like.

[zaibatsu]

There's not much point to scanning that article, as it's already scanned. You could compare it to the copy you have, as yours will be obviously more accurate, I'll check it and see if any of the diagrams are crappy and need rescanning. However, there may be other interesting articles in that magazine, so anything around this subject would be very useful.

[ossassin]

Would you mind posting it? I still don't have FTP access. Thanks.

[zaibatsu]

I'll find some way in a couple of days.

[buzzd]

No it's not impossible. I know someone who knows a (illegal) gun dealer. So it's not impossible.
If you don't know anyone you still can get in contact with people at train stations. Maybe you'll just find some guys who are selling drugs, but for a small fee they will certainly remember someone who sells guns.
If build a gun yourself you still have the problem of getting ammunition. For this you still have to get in contact with criminal elements.

Ammo is not a problem in the United States. Nobody should have a problem with this, and if they do...

If this person you know really knows this "illegal gun dealer" [more like airsoft dealer], then you won't a have a problem getting and shipping me a receiver? Packed w/ some metal junk/tools. Label as tool kit on customs, ship to USA. Top dollar paid. Assuming you're not full of shi7.

[Bigfoot]

Btw, 1 stone = 14 pounds.

Danke.

As for authorship, word usage and sentence structure are consistent with Holmes. As are his preferred methods, editorial comments. Either Holmes or a poser.

[zaibatsu]

Yes, it's completely Bill Holmes, just had to look a little harder. Interesting he didn't think of using brass cased shotgun shells for his shotgun, I assume they'd make extraction easier. I know .410 shotgun cartridges can be made from .303 brass, with the neck anealed and blown out to full diameter.

[xperk]

Hi,

Due to may country of residence having insane gun-laws - I have been looking at the different methods for rifling a homemade barrel, and discovered some of the problems involved.

Judging from the Brocock conversions firing a .22 shell from a .22 airgun is at least possible (Mind you that the Brocock conversion used hardened steel inserts to strengthen the chamber).

I have been unable to find any discussion of the airgun topic on the forum so here goes:
is it possible to take a .22 airgun barrel and use a seamless hardened steel tube on the outside of the barrel as a sleeve?
Not only would the availability of suitable tubes with sufficient wall thickness be easier than finding a 5.5 mm. tube of the right proportions. The airgun barrel OD would be easy to downsize to fit a tube - than drilling a hole through a steel rod... both requiring a lathe though...

I guess the wear on the airgun barrel would be higher than normal, but the availability and low pricing of airguns should partly make up for that.

This could result in a sort of 'inverted Brocock' design, that had the benefit of a safe and precise rifled barrel.

[leoncristobal]

could not locate the site at angelfire. it said check the url.
:confused:
Here are some books that can help you:

Zips Pipes And Pens - J. David Truby - 20 Mb

Expedient Homemade Firearms 9mm Submachinegun – 30 MB

Home Workshop Guns - 9mm Machine Pistol – 34 MB

Home Workshop Prototype Firearms – 45MB

Home Workshop Firearms - Two Pistol Designs – 4 MB

Home Workshop Firearms - .22 machine pistol – 5 MB

The .22 Machine and the two pistols designs you can download at:

http://www.angelfire.com/oz/thegarbage/book/book.htm

The others were too big to put in the ftp.

These homemade guns can be very dangerous. The picture below shows an accident with a pen gun:

http://www.angelfire.com/oz/thegarbage/book/accident.jpg

[Jacks Complete]

leoncristobal,

to ensure a long and happy stay here, try not to post one line with a 20 line quote!

Aside from that, welcome to the forums.

[xperk]

Searching a Police site (yes) I came across some interesting pictures of what appears to be a confiscated improvised keychain-like gun.

As you can see in the pictures (ruler indication in cm. by the way) it is of quite simple construction.
Picture 1 depicts the gadget dissambled - the barrel doubles at the guns breech by sliding in place over a pair of rails. The center button on picture 2 most likely is the locking mechanism by inserting a pin in the center hole.

As you can see in picture two each barrel has a trigger, the gun is probably cocked by the big ring connected to the pin.

Obviously the design isn't aimed at any target range i have ever encountered.
It looks like .22 short to me - but I could be wrong..

I have never seen this design before, so if anyone could enlighten me on the innovative use of laminated steel for the barrel...

btw. smokers should probably not carry this gun and a zippo at the same time - in each instance a mistake could prove embarrassing :-)

[nbk2000]

Unless the site specifically says it was made of laminated steel plate, I'd think the "plates" are actually just machining marks that haven't been polished out.

Also, it's customary here, when referring to a something found on a site somewhere else, to provide a link to it so others can see it as well.

Leon....sloppy, sloppy, sloppy! :mad:

You simply provide the URL, not the whole post it was in, as we don't need all the rest of it to figure out that the site is 404'd, meaning no longer around, eh?

In fact, why didn't you just say "The URL Garbage provided is 404'd". That provides all the information we needed from your post, only in one short sentence, instead of an entire quoted post.

In double fact, that's a rule violation too, though it earns you a few days ban, rather than permanent, like I usually do, because I'm in a good mood tonight. :)

[xperk]

nbk2000,

sorry for the lack of url, I have had the pics for some time, and they have now vanished from the cop site.

I am not too sure about the machining marks though - they seem to be patterned to the width of the supposed laminated stel plate. Also the pattern seems the continue on the inside of the barrel at the same rate as the outside.

On the other hand - as previously mentioned - I don't see how they could have assembled the plates to sustain a discharge.

[jelly]

xperk:

The keychain gun was produced in the 90s in Bulgaria, sold for just 20 dollars and occasionally confiscated at European airports.

[xperk]

jelly,

thanks, looks like you're right!
only according to this site, they didn't actually sell them at airports :-)

http://powayusd.sdcoe.k12.ca.us/online/usonline/worddoc/weapons.htm

and .32 caliber .. hmmm

[jelly]

xperk: Yeah, confiscated at European airports... not sold. My english isn't the best :)

[quabillion]

xyz

I ask because if the barrel was 5.56mm as soon as it started, then wouldn't you be unable to chamber the round?.

This is true, you would have great diffculty chambering the round. That is why commercial rifiles have what is called a "throat". This throat is just after the chamber but before the rifileing begins. This allows the round to be easly chambered, also it is safer because the ammount of force that would be needed to push the lead bullet into the rifileing could easly deform the rim, causing the not quite chambered round to explode. In a zip gun application you usually would not have this as a problem,(no rifileing) however if you are making a rifiled barrell, then you should have no problem at all putting a throat in also.

[tdog49]

another option instaed of making the whole thing at home is to obtain receiver plans (biggerhammer.net or elsewhere) and craft the reciever at home. this could be done w/ many different weapons however I like the mac 10 as it is a simple cut and weld and heat treat job. Well it is if you know how to weld anyway... then you can buy parts kits from "Shotgun News" or on the web at places like this...www.rpbusa.com

since the reciever is what is tracked by the BATF, you can make a smg or semiauto w/o any paperwork by doing it this way.

[shadow2501]

another of those mac-10 parts selling should be http://www.ftfindustries.com ,selling all parts but the receiver,since smg are hard to obtain in europe did anyone here could have ordered something from this site or have heard about someone that had big troubles because of that?

[guerrero]

As for weapons plans: Since a lot of time I´v benn looking vor the plans of Sardaukar Press like buckler, boltgun, cane gun etc. I refer to scanned detailled plans with dimensions. Can I find such plans on the FTP or anywho has theese plans?

[steelhead]

Take a look on ftp://204.210.178.18/ there are some nice construction plans of a stengun there, the drawings are in autocad format.

(DON'T INCLUDE YOUR ENTIRE PUBLIC KEY AT THE END OF EACH POST, PROVIDE A LINK INSTEAD! - KINGSPAZ)

[raptor1956]

I wonder how hard it would be to integrate a silencer into the barrel design. Many models of guns do this, but I don't know how the mechanics would work. Does anybody know anything about that?

Not all that hard, drill a series of holes down the last 1/4 or so of the barrel, re-polish the bore, & wrap it in steel wool. slide a tube over the outside, fit some baffles, & screw on an endcap. That's it in a nutshell. Check out weapons like Delisle's commando carbine for details.

[alf]

I have benn looking for Sardaukar Press' plans too.
Anybody knows about it? Their designs look very professional and well made