Info on chemical weapons I have:

[TariqMujahid]

Before i get banned...i decided to edit this. Here's what i have:

SULFUR MUSTARD)

There are 2 ways of making this, one is more pure than
the other.

Recipe A- Ingredients: Ethyl Alcohol, Sulfur
Monochloride (i have no
clue
where to get this, if all fails, you may have to make
it)

Procedure: Combine Ethyl Alcohol with Sulfur
Monochloride...and boil. You should have a brownish liquid. This is Mustard Agent, but impure. To purify it, you will have to distill it. It becomes Mustard Gas when it evaporates. It is toxic in both forms; but liquid form causes larger blisters.

Recipe B- Ingredients: Thiodiglycol (Lubricant in
ballpoint pen ink)
Hydrochloric Acid (sold as 'Muriatic Acid', used as a pool cleaner...but in a dilute form)

Procedure: Combine Thiodiglycol and Hydrochloric Acid.
Boil. This
should
produce a more pure form of Mustard.

*Pure Mustard has no smell or color. It is the
impurities that give
Mustard
it's characteristic Garlic or Horse Radish smell.

HYDROGEN CYANIDE (Cyanide Gas, Prussic Acid):

Ingredients: Potassium Cyanide, Sulfuric Acid

Procedure: This is a so-called "Binary Gas", which is: 2 relatively safe chemicals, when mixed together, make a dangerous chemical...so all you have to do is mix the two chemicals together.

You can use just about any Cyanide and Strong acid
combination, but
Potassium Cyanide + Sulfuric Acid is the best.

TABUN (GA) )

Ingredients: Phosphorus Trichloride, Dimethylamine, Sodium Cyanide, Ethyl Alcohol

Procedure: This one is pretty easy, but unfortunately,
i can't give the
BEST
detail on it =).

1- Combine Phosphorus Trichloride and Dimethylamine

2- Add Sodium Cyanide

3- When ready to use, mix it with Ethyl Alcohol

I don't know if this will work..but that's the order
you will combine the chemicals in. For the 1st step, there will most likely be impurities you will have to filter out. You shouldn't have to do any boiling or heating other than that.

SARIN (GB) )

Ingredients (for my method, which i like):
Hydrofluoric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Methanol, Isopropanol, Phosphorus Trichloride, Chlorine Gas

Where to buy ingredients:

-Hydrofluoric Acid: probably an auto-supply store...it is used to clean hubcaps
-Sodium Hydroxide: Grocery Store, in the Detergent isle. Look for "Lewis Red Devil Lye"
-Methanol: Gasline deicer..."HEET" is the brandname,
same auto-supply
store
-Isopropanol: Grocery Store, Pharmacy; a more pure form exists as Gasline deicer called "ISO-HEET" at auto-supply stores
-Phosphorus Trichloride: You will have to make this; it's illegal for it to be sold to any Joe Schmoe
-Chlorine: Make it yourself, or buy it

Sodium Fluoride:
Why make this? Simple- it is safer to use than Hydrofluoric Acid... Yeh, you're using the HF to make it, but you'll see why it is safer later on.

1- simply mix the Hydrofluoric Acid with Sodium Hydroxide.
Dont spill any HF on
your skin..it may not cause immediate burns, but the
Fluoride Ion causes serious damage. If you spill some, wash it off
immediately and call an ambulance. You think up a story of what you were doing with Hydrofluoric Acid. This reaction is not a very safe one; everyone knows mixing Acids and Bases is a bad idea...so, you may want to leave the area and clear it of anything valuable =).

2- Pour the contents of your container through a coffee filter. Keep the Sodium Fluoride (but make sure not to touch it with bare skin), and get rid of the water.

3- this was the reaction: HF + NaOH ----> NaF (sodium
fluoride) + H2O (water)

Phosphorus Trichloride:

1- Mix Chlorine Gas and Red Phosphorus somehow...

2- Collect the fumes that form. It is Phosphorus
Trichloride. Let them condensate on some surface or another. It will form a yellowish liquid. Yes, PCl3 is toxic, so don't play with it too much =)

---------------
SARIN (GB) )

1- Mix Phosphorus Trichloride with Methanol to make Trimethylphosphate

2- Filter out the Hydrochloric Acid

3- Turn the Trimethylphosphate to Dimethylmethylphosphate (DMMP) by boiling.

4- After boiling, add Phosphorus Trichloride to the DMMP while you bubble through Chlorine Gas to make MethylPhosphonyl DiChloride (DC) and Hydrochloric Acid.

5- By means of distillation, separate DC from the
Hydrochloric Acid. Save half of your DC.

6- Take half of the DC, and Add Sodium Fluoride to
the chemical. This makes a new chemical: MethylPhosphonyl DiFluoride (DF).
NOTE: Hydrofluoric Acid could have been used for this same
step, although it would create Hydrochloric Acid as a byproduct. Using Sodium Fluoride, it forms harmless Table Salt, which is easily removed.

8- This part can take place by a missile during flight, or by someone on a suicide operation: Combine DC with DF and Isopropyl Alcohol to make SARIN.

SOMAN (GD) )

(Same as steps 1-6 for SARIN, so i won't go over it again)

The last step is different... Instead of using
Isopropyl Alcohol, you will use "Pinacolyl Alcohol"...i believe it's also called Pine Alcohol. This is harder to come by than Isopropyl Alcohol, and unfortunately i don't know where to buy it.

OTHER USEFUL INFO:

The "G Agents", as they are called, are all liquids that evaporate.
They aren't really gasses, they are vapors. As a liquid, they can poison via skin contact. As a gas, it requires inhalation.

MEANS OF DELIVERY:

-A simple bomb. The explosion spreads the agent a good distance, and turns it into tiny droplets that evaporate quickly. The advantage to this: When people hear a bomb go off, they think it is just that- a bomb, and nothing more. They go to help the injured, and unknowingly get themselves poisoned. This does not work with Binary Weapons, you will have to mix everything before hand...

-Spray: Don't worry about aerosol cans, they are to expensive. We're cheap. So, simply buy a little spray-bottle, the kind people use in Summer to cool themselves down. Fill it with your desired weapon, and use it that way. Think of it as Bug Spray for humans.

-Rocket: Rockets are not hard to build, just learn about model rocketry. A rocket exploding 15 feet from the ground is ideal for gassing a medium-sized area. The larger the area, the more rockets you use. You will have to figure out a way to make sure they detonate at the right altitude. If you use a Binary Weapon, you will also have to figure out a way to mix the 2 chemicals in flight.

<small>[ March 14, 2002, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: TariqMujahid ]</small>

[nbk2000]

I think someone needs to do a much more thorough search.

I wrote up an article here about making mustard gas that went into great detail. Look up "antifreeze mustard gas".

Also, if you want detailed information, try visiting the FTP and downloading a copy of "War Gases". Don't remember exactly what section it's in, but it a big one.

And, NBK v2.0 is including detailed lab synthesis prodecures for the CW you listed, plus others.

You broke several rules here, the "Your first post can't be a new topic" and "I've got (whatever), if you want it, e-mail me."

Just post the info here and we'll work on it, otherwise....

[xoo1246]

I know what will happen next.
Edit: Darn nbk2000 you took my pleasure away posting that quick! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

<small>[ March 14, 2002, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: xoo1246 ]</small>

[nbk2000]

Well, at least he's trying. And a quick learner too.

All the stuff you posted is stuff that any decent encyclopedia has. So you're not really telling us anything we don't already know. But at least it wasn't the usual "Add bleach to baking soda to make nerve gas" crap that most newbies try to fob off on us.

[TariqMujahid]

It took some effort for a person of my age to compile all of this...I thought it was pretty good. Anyhow, i will have to spend some more time searching through this forum, today is the first time I'd heard of it. I still haven't quite gotten used to the feel of it, but thanks for correcting my mistake. My synthesis of Sarin was pretty good though, wasn't it? lol. I took a bit of extra on that one to figure out easier ways to produce it. As i said earlier though, i have very little knowledge of lab equipment, so i wanted someone to add on to that.

[Rat Bastard]

What are you going do do with all this stuff anyways? Become a one man army?

[ENGINEERKILLER]

It,s kind of funny today I spent 6 hours in A level suit rendering safe this kind of thing.It was a rocket full of gb in a building(simulated we used flourescine instead of GB but close enough).
The problem with any type of make shift chemical weapons is contamination control .You have to assume that anything that has been around an agent is dirty to include whatever you are wearing as protective equipment.Especialy nonpersistent agents like gb because the vapor will condense on just about anything.so all the equipment will have to be destroyed or decontaiminated .Then there is the is the problem of outprocessing your self which without the assistence of other people your hosed.

[nbk2000]

And let's not forget about the storage problem.

Leaks are a constant hazard. And with powerful agents like the G series, it could be a literal microscopic pinhole that you can't see any liquid seeping from.

But that's because it's evaporating as fast as it can seep out. In the meantime, you're building up (assuming sealed room) a lethal vapor concentration.

The easiest way to mitigate this hazard, that I know of, is to add a freon compound to the agent.

Freon is inert, so there'd be no reaction hazard with the agents. It's also very easily detected by CFC detectors at parts per billion concentrations or less, which is way below the effects threshold for any chemical agents I'm aware of.

The detectors cost about $200 and are instantaneous reponse electronic types. The CFC is readily available at automotive sections of any hardware store as Freon recharge cartridges.

Frankly, I don't see why the military didn't incorporate CFC trcers into their stocks. But maybe they didn't have detectors for CFCs back in the 60's.

Anyways, making CW is a lot harder than most people would imagine it to be. Just making mustard via thiodiglycol proved to be a major production, and that's nowhere near as complicated as nerve agents.

You should also be aware that a lot of the publicly available literature on CW production (post '50s) has deliberate errors or omissions to prevent "cookbook"-style terrorist use.

Things like improper reactant ratios that will either cause no reaction, or a violent runaway, or too much heat that causes breakdown of the reaction products into harmless components.

You need to be well read and familiar with the chemistry of organophosphates, and work your way up to them with less (though still lethally) toxic phosphates like DFP or TEPP.

Once you can successfully make those without dying, then you can try the "fun" stuff like sarin.

Even then, you shouldn't try it making it till you've done it many times with microscale (<10ml) equipment. This way, if the procedure is "boobytrapped", it won't explode or be able to escape the confinment of the glovebox.

You would be using a glovebox, right? Because a fume hood won't cut it.

Though I'd have to disagree that one person can't decon themselves. I've done it. Full body saranex coated tyvek suit, viton gloves, and gas mask. No vapor burns or anything.

Of course, this was back when I was 19 years old, didn't have any friends I could trust to help, and didn't know any better than to do it in the first place.

I wouldn't try it myself if I was dealing with biologicals though. That's a whole other level there.

[vulture]

My mother lately showed me something for poisoning moles. You put it in one of their holes, light it and get the fucking hell outta there!
The stuff produces massive amounts of PH3 which harmful concentration is 0,1ppm. I estimate the lethal concentration is somewhere around 50-100ppm. You can buy this shit in a garden store...

About your means of delivery, most nerve gas bombs have a propellor between the tail fins which starts turning the second the bomb drops from the delivery aircraft. It opens a reactor vessel inside the bomb and stirs the chemicals during flight.
For rockets the propellor should be placed on the nosecone for obvious reasons.

I remember reading something about tetranitromethane on mega's site, it was being proposed as chemical warfare agent.

[NoltaiR]

What I have.. well for me its more of a question of what has my parents not taken.. seems like they are always raiding my lab taking my chems because they don't think it is a viable excuse for a good hobby. That and they are always complaining about the possibility for a spontaneous explosion (and my 'lab' is mostly just equipment for making BP and flash.. which I have been making all my life. And they are worried about a spontaneous explosion...). Maybe what I should be asking for here is a way to keep my parents out of my shit! This morning I had a litre sized measuring filled with 500mL of 15% H2O2 and 500mL of acetone and about 30mL of H2SO4... it had been precipitating all night but my mom decided she needed to borrow it so when she found it in my garage she just poured it all out onto the ground and cleaned it off (hopefully this stuff won't dry out on the ground or else she is going to wish she had never done that..).. so much waste!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: