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xoo1246
March 22nd, 2002, 09:33 PM
Haven't been posting for a while.
Felt like sharing a little experiment I have been dreaming about.
In that dream I constructed a very basic "claymore",
consisting of 63 nails placed against some 200 grams of AN/NM/AL and initiated by a 4 grams HTMD electric blasting cap.
After that I placed the "claymore" some 10-15 meters from an old sheet that was hung up between to trees. I retired to some cover and detonated the thing. The sheet was ripped down and had 11 large holes in it(17% hit ratio on a farly large target ), one tree had holes in it and I recovered one nail. I also inproved my blasting box to use a 220000uF 25V condensator together with 3 9v batteries (yes thats 3 V too much but I don't charge it fully). I painted some pictures in psp to show you what my dream looked like <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .

In no order at all:
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/200gANNMAL63NailsClaymore.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/200gANNMAL63NailsClaymore.jpg</a>
(yes it's uggly)
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/ClaymoreAndTarget.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/ClaymoreAndTarget.jpg</a>
(back of claymore in the bottom of the image)
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/Condensator440000uF11V.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/Condensator440000uF11V.jpg</a> (discharge through a screwdriver)
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/ImprovedBlastingBox.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/ImprovedBlastingBox.jpg</a>
(not very professional looking)
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/RecoveredNail.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/RecoveredNail.jpg</a> (note that the head has been blown off)
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/TouchedByFragments.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/TouchedByFragments.jpg</a>
(I found one nail here)
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/TreeDamaged.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/TreeDamaged.jpg</a>
<a href="http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/TreeDamagedClose.jpg" target="_blank">http://w1.478.telia.com/~u47804009/E&W/TreeDamagedClose.jpg</a>

I guess it would be more effective to use steel balls and use the monroe(same effect as in shaped charges can't recall if thats the name) effect to direct more energy torwards the fragments.
Now please leave you comment and ideas.
/ xoo1246

DBSP
March 22nd, 2002, 10:23 PM
Wher tha fuck have you been Xoo I've been missing you. Nice claymore, what did you pay for your digit camera the cheapest I culd find costs 2000kr. I'll buy one soon.

RTC
March 22nd, 2002, 11:24 PM
You took a video of this if im correct, and the video show's something hitting the sheet. And something knocking back the sheet, (nails) right?

DBSP
March 22nd, 2002, 11:44 PM
It's not a video It's only pics.. How wide was the charge.. and how long was the distance to the target. An what was the size of the target.. sorry to bother you...

nbk2000
March 22nd, 2002, 11:49 PM
Check out this <a href="http://www.pop-inc.com/POP_Cat_Pg15.html" target="_blank">Sting Ball Claymore</a> that the piggies get to play with.

<img src="http://www.pop-inc.com/imgs/POPix168.jpg" alt="" />

Seems simple enough. Just a solid steel box with a bunch of rubber balls on top of a flashpowder propellant charge.

RTC
March 23rd, 2002, 12:00 AM
I'm sure I've definatly seen a video of it.

DBSP
March 23rd, 2002, 12:05 AM
I don't know if Xoo has a digital video recorder, but as I remember it he only has a still picture camera (digital).

<small>[ March 22, 2002, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: DBSP ]</small>

Jack Ruby
March 23rd, 2002, 12:24 AM
I assume That that is in Sweden? It looks Beatiful there. How densely populated is it there?

Good work. What about using Flechettes. They are supposed to go righte through Body Armour, Plant life, etc. like nothing. It is also my understanding that they have quite range due to being Dart Shaped.

DBSP
March 23rd, 2002, 12:50 AM
Sweden is lovely the density is about 19/km2 I belive. No one would object if you would like to shoot a gun (any kind). They are so used to hearing gunshots, since it's so many that hunt in sweden. A 200g ANNM charge is heard as a gunshot at a distance of about 4km if you are inside a house or similar. So NO problem!!!

xoo1246
March 23rd, 2002, 08:46 AM
DBSP: Had to pay 2500 kr (250$) for it. The claymore was 15 cm wide and had two layers of nails. The distance to the target was 10-15 meters and the size of the target is the size of your sheet in your bed.

ENGINEERKILLER
March 24th, 2002, 12:29 PM
A good form for an improvised claymore is a cheap plastic soap dish you can glue the frag to the top of the lid and pack explosives behind it try to keep your point of initiation as centered as possible this will give the most uniform frag pattern.

<small>[ March 24, 2002, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: ENGINEERKILLER ]</small>

Bitter
March 24th, 2002, 02:11 PM
Does the material the claymore itself is made of seem to make any difference to the performance ? Which would be the optimum shape for it ? Perhaps if the claymore was concaved instead of convexed, then perhaps you might get a 'shaped charge' effect and increased penetration of the target.

xoo1246
March 24th, 2002, 04:42 PM
Bitter: I agree with you (read my post again).
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> "An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind." Says Ghandi. I say : Wake up and smell the coffee; dead men don't shoot back.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">The problem is their brothers and sisters do. KCN in your coffee.

Bitter
March 25th, 2002, 11:34 AM
Not if you shoot them too.

xoo1246
March 25th, 2002, 11:53 AM
See, you started to poke out one eye. Now you are forced to poke out new ones not to get your eye poked out. And soon the world is blind.

Solution: make it look like an accident. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

RTC
March 25th, 2002, 12:55 PM
What does eye poking have to do with claymore's? Stay on topic!

NBK, on that site you gave, it say's that that "non letal" claymore can be vehical mounted, well this has it's uses in the crimey world, perhaps you could take the headlight's of a car, and mould it into the headlight space?

The headlights will still have to work so not to draw attention, unless your working during the day, but it's always a good idea to have lights when you need them.

Oh, replacing the rubber balls for steal ball's, nail's, all sorts of nasty's, would make it more affective, unless that's not your aim of course.

vulture
March 25th, 2002, 01:36 PM
How about a starmine loaded with flash and nails aimed at the target?

A little kewlish friend of mine once filled a drinking glass with nails and just stuck a firecracker (here in Belgium you can buy fairly powerful ones the whole year long) in it and set it off.
He had to dive for cover to avoid the glass and nail shrapnel....

zaibatsu
March 25th, 2002, 02:08 PM
Could you not use a piece of steel channel, and then bend that either inwards or outwards to get a nice convex/concave shape? You could weld steel plate to the ends, or just bend the ends of the channel in.

Bubba
April 3rd, 2002, 06:30 PM
I have the Ragnar Benson book Improvised Claymores. Also have it scanned to .pdf format. Basicly he used a piece of steel plate for the back, an explosive charge, then MILD steel ball bearings in a matrix of wax (I believe). I'll get that .pdf back out and take a look to be sure. Decent book btw.

Arkangel
April 3rd, 2002, 09:12 PM
That POP stingmore site has some amazing stuff on it NBK, thanks for that!

nbk2000
April 3rd, 2002, 11:29 PM
Why don't you upload the claymore PDF to the FTP so the rest of us can read it, hmm? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

I have one of ragners "encyclopedias" :rolleyes: wherein it describes his claymore. It uses cut up 8" PVC pipe sections, rebar, and plastic baggies with the explosive behind a cardboard retainer of ball bearings.

Rather amatuerish I'm afraid. Maybe the book you have is a version 2?

Whitey
April 4th, 2002, 12:53 AM
The white resistance manual discusses homemade claymores. I uploaded it to the FTP a few days ago (it's in the "recent" folder). I am pretty sure it is the same design NBK is talking about.