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inferno
April 14th, 2002, 05:21 AM
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(im paranoid)

Something i saw on the news recently made me think about a weapon that could have numerous uses. I wont go into them here, im sure youll figure them out.

In riots (this is where i got the idea) people often take cover behind cars, bins etc, when the mob starts throwing molotov cocktails, rocks, etc. This can include police. These people are hard to hurt in any way, besides an accurate throw from a molotov cocktail or the like. Here is my idea to counter act this.

What inspired this idea, was a clip i saw from ireland a few days ago. It was a camera crew sheltered (with police) behind a car. A home-made rocket was fired about 4 metres over their head and exploded with a flash behind them. While a lucky/well aimed shot might do "damage" to people behind things, its not feasible to fire 10 shots at people hoping for a lucky shot.

So here is my idea. My simply taping shotgun shells to the front of a rocket, and adding tacks to the primers, you could have an effective impact sensitive weapon that could be aimed at a hard surface behind a barricaded target, which would then fire the shells backwards. Im sure this idea, or one like it, has been conceived or listed before, but this is just my idea of it.

The shells would be taped to the end of a D engine, with the shells taped/glued around the front, and the tacks taped on to the shells. When the tacks hit, it fires behind , with a high likeliness of hitting the target/s. The only precaution would be to make sure you are in cover before the weapon hits, to avoid shooting yourself.

J
April 14th, 2002, 05:46 AM
A high explosive warhead filled with BB's will do the same thing, and be a lot more powerful. A shotgun shell exploding on its own won't have much power beyond several meters (I'd guess, I've never tested this out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> ), unless you used a short barrel.

Azazel
April 14th, 2002, 10:22 AM
a slight [ i add slight ] adjustment may need to be made... the shottgun shells have that plastics cup wadding shite inside which holds all of the shots together as they are thrown out of the barrel. Im not too sure how much distance these buggers have to travel until it actually splits open in the air and scatters the shots... but if you want to harm someone behind something you would need to shoot the mongrel fairly close to the target area to be effective because acuracy is greatly decreased. The chance of tightly grouped shots hitting the targets may not be as high compared to a shotshell which doesnt have the side bits on the plastic wadding. this way the shots are dispersed as soon as they leave the shot, giving a wider field of damage and further more increasing your chance of hitting the target.

if i were to make such an improvised weapon i would try to make some kind of claymore device rather than use shotshells. i just get a feeling that a shotshell wouldnt do enough damage.

A more ideal weapon in my opinion would be to create a delayed explosion through the means of shortening the burn time on the estes D engine... work out how much powder be removed from the back in order to cover say 70 meters... that way as soon as 70 m is covered the powder has reached a heat sensative primary explosive which then sets of your secondary High explosive... If the target is closer than the required distance fire the rocket at an angle... kinda like that pythagorarse theorum shite [sorry bout spelling and language]

i got a question dude.... i dont know if you know this already BUT its very hard to get a hobby engine to fly horizontaly...they were designed for vertical flight... so if you want to make a Surface to air your fine... but surface to surface will be a challenge... before you go making shottgun shell rockets i would try to work out this little problem otherwise you might find that your rockets land 5 meters in front of you... with a shottgun shell aimed right at you !!! be carefull my friend :)

Anthony
April 14th, 2002, 10:39 AM
If we're talking 70m, why not just a frag grenade? A stick grenade would be easier if you're having trouble covering the distance.

DBSP
April 14th, 2002, 10:46 AM
Please forget the shotgun shell, it wont do shit, the shots will just drop out of the shell unless confined in a pipe, hmm maby a bit to heavy for a rocket to carry huh.

nbk2000
April 14th, 2002, 11:15 AM
I see two mods who've let this tripe post run on for too long.

End topic.

And dude, we don't do bullshit disclaimers here, alright?

This is just a rocket propelled variation on the "nutbuster" idea from the PMJB book.