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Detonator
December 26th, 2001, 05:38 PM
It is an easy HE to make with a VoD 6000m/s

DNT has a yellow color and a stincky smell

Any info regarding dnt and dnx would be much appriciated


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kingspaz
December 26th, 2001, 06:18 PM
from chemistry of powder and explosives
'trinitroxylene is not powerful enoguh for use alone as a high explosive, and does not always communicate an initail detonation throughout its mass.'
if you want email me and i'll scan the relevent pages. i would do it now but i'm tired and its late.

RTC
December 26th, 2001, 06:55 PM
DNT :

Disulfiram (tetraethylthiuram disulfide)[sp?]
Chemical Hazard: Disulfiram (tetraethylthiuram disulfide)
CAS Number: 97-77-8

Volume (liter)
TWA: 120
CLG/STEL:

Rate (ml/min)
TWA : 1000
CLG/STEL:

Time
TWA (hrs): 2
CLG/STEL (min):

SKC Equipment: Preloaded Filter Cassette 225-709 Filter Cassette and Cyclone Holder 225-1

Analytical-Method: HPLC-UV -- High-Pressure Liquid Chromatography With UV Detector

DNX :

http://www.skcinc.com/NIOSH1/LIST_D.html - for information on DNX.

I have a around 7 or 8 mil pdf's on these two subjects. Anyone want me to upload/link them?

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kingspaz
December 26th, 2001, 07:07 PM
the ftp is back and running so you could upload them so everybody can make use of it. i'm sure many people would appreciate it.
doesn't DNT stand for dinitrotoluene. its an ingredient in the C2 and C3 explosives i think.

nbk2000
December 26th, 2001, 11:50 PM
DNT is toxic to handle and absorbs through the skin, just like picric acid. That's why C2 and C3 were phased out.

And if you got DNT, you might as well take it to the next step and make TNT.

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Detonator
December 27th, 2001, 05:07 AM
I hope you can upload the pdf's to the ftp so we can see them.

NBK when you wana make TNT from DNT you will need concentrated HNO3 right?? Dnt is easy to make cause it doesnt need more than %70 HNO3.

Is it danger as much as picric acid.

Anyone has more info about it? gas/v , cal , moisture effect on it..etc?




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Madog555
December 27th, 2001, 08:21 AM
what hapens if i touch picric acid or an aquaeus solution of?

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Mr Cool
December 27th, 2001, 01:11 PM
There are a few reliable sources I've seen that state that DNT can be converted to TNT with 70% HNO3 and 98% H2SO4, but more acid is needed than with 100% HNO3 and oleum. I would try it, but can't find any toluene round here http://theforum.virtualave.net/ubb/smilies/frown.gif
I've got TNP on my hands a couple of times, but only weak solns. No ill effects were noticed but I wouldn't recommend it, just in case.
TNX would, I'm sure, make an excellent component in cheddites with chlorates, even if it can't be used alone.

Kingspaz: if you have time I'd appreciate it if you could scan the pages about DNT/DNX and post them here, or e-mail them to those that want them.

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CodeMason
December 27th, 2001, 02:26 PM
Mono- and di- nitroaromatics can indeed be employed very successfully in Cheddites. See here: http://edetonator.hyperlink.cz/Chlorate.htm

Also on that site, good information on <a href="http://edetonator.hyperlink.cz/TNT.htm">MNT</a> and <a href="http://edetonator.hyperlink.cz/DNT.htm">DNT</a>.

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mongo blongo
December 27th, 2001, 03:17 PM
Mr Cool
You can find toluene at B&Q. As a paint remover I think.

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Mr Cool
December 27th, 2001, 05:43 PM
I've seen toluene in things, which I suppose might just be pure toluene (the label said "contains toluene"), but I've never seen it sold as just "toluene". I'll have a look round next time I'm there.

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nbk2000
December 28th, 2001, 01:45 AM
I can buy pure toluene by the gallon at the hardware store. Labeled as such too.

The TNT and Picric, from my understanding, are absorbed through the skin, going to the liver and/or kidneys, where it breaks down and destroys vital tissues, leading to liver/kidney failure, jaundice, and other lovelies.

Minute amounts on rare occassions aren't going to be harmful, but the more often you come in contact with it, the more likely you are to have bad effects.

Basically, in chemistry, if you can't use it for cooking dinner, you don't want to touch it.

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vulture
December 28th, 2001, 02:32 PM
picric acid (or TNP) does poison severely if amounts of 1-2g are taken orally.
It can be absorbed through the skin.
picric acid irritates eyes, skin and respiratory system. In cases of severe poisoning it destroys red blood particles and damages the kidneys. MAC= 0.1mg/m3
In the old days it was being used in matches....

DNT alters the bloodcolor, thereby rendering it useless for oxygen transport.
It attacks the liver and the kidneys and is a known carcinogen.
DNT is being used for preparation of 2,4-Diaminotoluen and polyurethanes.

kingspaz
December 28th, 2001, 05:00 PM
i got those scans...sorry its a day late i didn't have time yesterday.
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/kingspaz/images/page1.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/kingspaz/images/page2.gif

i would post them properly but angelfire won't let me do it anymore.

aargghhh!!!...bastard angelfire!!! you will have to copy the address and paste it into you browser window.
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RTC
December 28th, 2001, 06:05 PM
Kingspaz, angelfire does let you link images if there in GIF format for some reason.

kingspaz
December 28th, 2001, 07:32 PM
yer thats what i thought. thats why i converted them to GIF format first but after i posted them some angelfire icon/image came up so i decided to just post the address.