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endotherm
May 2nd, 2002, 07:03 PM
Has anyone ever ordered from <a href="http://www.UnitedNuclear.com/" target="_blank">United Nuclear</a>.com? They have a small selection of commonly used pyrotechnic chemicals, fuse, tubing, and a whole bunch of radioactive samples. Anyone have any opinions on this place? Think it would be safe to place an order with them?

Tyler_Durden
May 4th, 2002, 05:50 PM
I could use some of those m-80 casings/end caps, not to mention the quick-match, fuse, and on and on.

The question remains, is this a good source? Not a scam?

DarkAngel
May 5th, 2002, 06:09 AM
I wouldn't order from them just order from skylighter:

Ammonium Chloride 1 pound UN=$9.00 SL=$3.05
Ammonium Perchlorate 1 pound UN=$18.00 SL=$8.60
Iron Oxide,red 1 pound UN=$7.00 SL=$4.90
Dechlorane 1 pound UN=$10.00 SL=$6.45
And so on..

And check the pictures of the chems it looks like most of the pictures are just the same (notice the little chunks on top of the right,And the same looking hand).

Some chemicals don't look real like they look on the picture example: AL powder,do you know why?
Because photoshop can't create the glitter kind of look that AL powder haves,at least they don't know how.

And the charcoal picture is the most worst of all. :p

<small>[ May 05, 2002, 07:19 AM: Message edited by: DarkAngel ]</small>

Anthony
May 5th, 2002, 12:37 PM
Those pictures are pretty shabby... As is the "got uranium" Tshirt.

BTW, apparently their stock of quickmatch is now nill.

Predator
May 5th, 2002, 01:23 PM
That site looks like it was drawn up in a hurry to me

Maybe someone in the US could ring up and ask specific details to see whether it's genuine or not

-------------------------------------
IP Address: 209.23.106.2
Location: Albany (42.712N, 73.819W)
Network: logical.net corp

Registrant:
UNITED NUCLEAR
1029 JAMES LOVELL ST
LAS VEGAS, NV 89145
US
Administrative Contact:
Lazar, Bob countdown@lvcm.com
702-256-3804
Technical Contact:
Lazar, Bob countdown@lvcm.com
702-256-3804
-------------------------------------

Heh.. "Bob Lazar".. that name sounds awfully familiar.. look it up

<small>[ May 05, 2002, 12:27 PM: Message edited by: Predator ]</small>

endotherm
May 5th, 2002, 02:51 PM
wow, check this out on Bob Lazar!
<a href="http://www.ufomind.com/area51/people/lazar/" target="_blank">http://www.ufomind.com/area51/people/lazar/</a>

Cricket
May 5th, 2002, 06:41 PM
And that chick wearing the T-shirt, her tits are messed up, one is way off to her right and the other one is straight :confused: ... I also noticed how most of the pictures are the same. Pretty ghetto if you ask me. I was thinking of ordering some of their Uranium marbles though, I need a science project done in 2 weeks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .

Rat Bastard
May 5th, 2002, 09:53 PM
The chemical pictures are all the same!

They just changed the colour balance with photoshop.

vulture
May 6th, 2002, 12:18 PM
Err, ever looked at their radioactive stuff? Pure uranium dioxide? Wash your hands after handling???
I think UO2 is a HIGHLY regulated chemical.
Besides, all uranium compounds are highly toxic and that's not because of the radiation only.

What's the max acceptable dose in CPM? I mean, 100,000 beta and gamma particles per minute sounds like a highly ionisating (?) radiation, no?

nbk2000
May 6th, 2002, 04:17 PM
I'd avoid them. Looks like a rip off joint to me.

Wicked
May 6th, 2002, 05:11 PM
looks? :p

Polverone
May 6th, 2002, 08:43 PM
I can't comment on United Nuclear specifically, but low-intensity radiation sources like thorium and natural uranium compounds are not particularly regulated in the US. I was able to order some uranyl nitrate as part of a batch of chemicals a few months back. There were no questions, no problems, no extra hazmat fees. The chemical itself was pretty expensive, though, about $5 a gram. I'm probably better off extracting americium from smoke detectors <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Rat Bastard
May 6th, 2002, 10:17 PM
Hehe.... I took a look and saw that, everybody at Bombshock who asks for chemicals, are told to go to United Nuclear!

Dumbasses!

BTW, I have found a new quote from BS that makes the hall of fame:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> can a firecracker *detonate a vaseline\sodium chlorate mix? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">(from <a href="http://www.bombshock.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3cd72cbe8235ffff;act=ST;f=7;t=484; st=0" target="_blank">here</a> )

:rolleyes: :mad: :confused: <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> :mad:

<small>[ May 06, 2002, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: Rat Bastard ]</small>

markkx
May 9th, 2002, 12:04 AM
how bout firefox? and do any of these suppliers ship to canada?

endotherm
May 15th, 2002, 07:18 PM
Sorry to bring up an old topic here...
But has anyone ever ordered/know someone who ordered anything from this company?

GMT
May 28th, 2002, 10:22 PM
Ordered two weeks ago .... No questions -- no problems ... Aluminum German Dark and K Preclorate ... showed up on my door step 7 days later. Packaging looks good ... but no idea of the quality ... haven't opened anything yet. But let's hope for the best ... they charge doulble than anyone else.
Here is their response .... when I asked them about their outrageous price .. true or not ... :

That's correct. You're also only allowed to buy 1 pound of it per year through other dealers who must also inform the Feds of your purchase. We do not keep transactions of our sales and do not inform anyone of any of our customer's purchases. You're paying for that service.

OK we'll see...

endotherm
May 28th, 2002, 10:51 PM
I've talked to Bob through e-mail, good guy, good and well organized company.
Although their prices are very high, they are fast and easy to deal with.
**They aren't a scam, real company**

HypersonicGamer
January 30th, 2003, 09:17 PM
Hey guys, I was browsing through <a href="http://www.advance-scientific.com/" target="_blank">http://www.advance-scientific.com/</a>

Their selection looks pretty awesome (compared to other sites). Although their Nitric acid solution is 70%, there would defnitely be a way to purify this right? *clenches teeth for a harsh response* <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

nbk2000
January 31st, 2003, 01:23 AM
Jesus H. Christ!

We only have an ENTIRE SECTION dedicated to everything Nitric related. :rolleyes:

I think you might just be trying to get my ire up.

supra.supra
January 31st, 2003, 06:00 AM
I've heard people say that UN is buying from Skylighter and then reselling it but, I'm not sure. Though unless, I'm colour blind that KMnO4 is blue IIRC it's suppose to be purple. The only thing thats good about it is the fact they sell to underage people. Does anyone know of pyro suppliers that ship overseas?

Anthony
January 31st, 2003, 11:22 AM
Yes, KMnO4 should be a deep purple in colour.

mr.evil
March 18th, 2003, 10:15 AM
i have some old KMnO4, and there are some green spots in it. It doesn't look like MnO2. But it works just fine in flash mixtures :confused:

pyromaniac_guy
March 18th, 2003, 01:21 PM
From Vulture
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
What's the max acceptable dose in CPM? I mean, 100,000 beta and gamma particles per minute sounds like a highly ionisating (?) radiation, no?
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">you are being sarcastic, right?

1 curie = 3.7 x 10^10 disintergrations per second...

that means your going to get in the neighboorhood of 2 million disntergrations per minute from your average 1 uC Am241source in a smoke detector!

vulture
March 18th, 2003, 02:41 PM
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand what you're trying to proof.

CPM = Curie per Minute no?

If that's the case, I got it wrong.
The site claims having 100,000CPM samples.
That would be: 3.7x10^15 particles per minute!

Polverone
March 18th, 2003, 03:02 PM
CPM = counts per minute, i.e. emissions counted per minute.

<small>[ March 18, 2003, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: Polverone ]</small>

pyromaniac_guy
March 18th, 2003, 03:27 PM
Vulture,

curies are already expressed in units of radiation per time... if cpm was (units of radiation per time) per minute, it would effectivly be units of radiation per time^2, radioactive sources emmit less radiation over time, not more :)

Mr Cool
March 18th, 2003, 03:30 PM
CPM = counts per minute, ie the number of emissions counted per minute as Polverone said. The emphasis is on counted per minute; a high activity source my have a low CPM value if the radiation is weakly ionising, has a low penetration, or if the detector is poor/faulty.

pyromaniac_guy
March 18th, 2003, 03:49 PM
also, it's worth pointing out that cpm is normally expressed as cpm at a specified distance from the source, as the radiation intensity falls of at r^2

Dathai
March 19th, 2003, 04:28 PM
The only thing that I find good about UN is the physics and the negative-x thing (good when your bored) :) .But besides that they are rip offs.I mainly get my cousin to get me chemicals(hes a chemist),lots of chems for alright prices.

Trinitrotoluene
April 28th, 2003, 10:18 PM
Just very recently now, United Nuclear dosen't accept case nomore. I had heard that some 12 year old ordered some stuff then when it arrived his mom complained to them about it. He sholuden't even be messing with that stuff anyways. I don't really seem to care much at all about having to pay in money order, it just makes it a little but more explnsive to me.

Ezekiel Kane
April 28th, 2003, 10:45 PM
ARGH! Christ have mercy! I sent in an order to them two weeks ago, and havent received any notice or anything about it. I paid with cash, so I sure as hell hope they fill my order. This explains why they haven't yet, though... Damn policy changes, oh well - if worst comes to worst they'll just have to send back the cash.

Anthony
April 29th, 2003, 03:16 PM
Give them a ring and find out what they are doing with your money.

Ghostcustom 24
April 29th, 2003, 06:35 PM
As a general rule of thumb you NEVER want to buy anything over the mail with cash. Most companies don't even accept it. You had better call soon and straighten this out.

Once upon a time a sent cash through the mail and they said that they had only received half of what I had sent (Someone at the company took the cash and I had no way to prove it ...):mad:

jfk
May 2nd, 2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by mr.evil
i have some old KMnO4, and there are some green spots in it. It doesn't look like MnO2. But it works just fine in flash mixtures :confused: \

my mother is the head of facility science at a private school near where i live, i make up all her solutions and what not - the most recent shipment of educational chemicals that she got in was from chine, most of the bottles looked extremly dodgy, there was one MERK one but i looked 10 years old............ok onto the point she got some KMnO4 and it was green, like that meat corned silverside it looks silvery on one side....

well it was green, made up purple solutions tho.

BTW - what flash dod you make with the stuff you had?