lithium

[stumps4arms]

Hey isnt lithium like a hardcore drug or something?

I had a couple grams of the pure element but over a few months of sitting in a baggie it probubly oxidized and it turned into a white powder. anyone know any uses for it?

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[stumps4arms]

HED/BFL ? are you calling mes not smart? anyways i was just curious if if theirs any use for the stuff or i should just throw it out

[PYRO500]

Lithium the drug is actually Lithium Carbonate (if I remember correctly) LiCO₃ I Beleve they do not yet know why lithium controls manic episodes in bipolar and cyclothymic (whatever that means) people, they just know it works somehow on neurorecpeptors. I am not sure about the effect on normal people but I have herd it dosen't, work on non-bipolar people and that it can block the europhic effects of cocaine.

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[CodeMason]

I believe it works by inhibiting dopamine, a neurotransmitter associated with schizophrenia and the effects of alcohol, LSD (I'm not sure, I think this just uses dopamine's bonding receptor) and cocaine. Lithium can be used to form lithium aluminium hydride, useful in many organic reductions, including meth (wink wink). I think an amalgam of it in mercury also has good reducing potential.

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[DarkAngel]

It can produce like strontium red flames in pyrotechnics

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[PYRO500]

Lithium has uses in nuclear weapons, I have herd Lithium duteride being used as fuel for a thermonuclear weapon. I don't think you'll be making one, but it is good to know.

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[nbk2000]

US patent #2028390

Reduction of lithium oxide to metallic lithium via thermite reaction

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[stumps4arms]

yah i think lithium oxide is what it turned into.. and its pretty fine powder now.. so all i need is some al powder to make thermite?

(Read the patent! NBK2000)

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[Cricket]

Yes, they use lithium deturide in nukes. I understand that they coat the nuke in the stuff, then then it explodes it reacts with it (too long to explain). Anyway, I know a girl that gets her friends prescribed Lithium for free http://theforum.virtualave.net/ubb/smilies/smile.gif and when she takes it she says she feels tired for an hour or two, then she is a little stoned and happy in general (charastic of dopamine I believe). With any luck, I can tell you first hand in a while...

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[Madog555]

Lithium Deuteride is used as the source of hydrogen in hydrogen bombs. it was first employed by the russians in their bombs, then it replaced the use of big tanks of liquid hydrogen, MUCH more portable. the first bomb that it was used in had a "sandwitch" of uranium and Lithium Deuteride. i think that this was the first thermal neuclear weapon made by the russians.

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[jin]

lithium oxide absorbs carbon dioxide from the atmosphere to form lithium carbonate its used in space suits to clean the carbon dioxde out.

[Cricket]

Is it possible to recover the Lithium out of batteries? If so, it would be too expensive to make money off it unless you got the dead ones for free. Interesting thought.

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[PYRO500]

Only a dumbass would buy lithium, all it will do to some normal people is make them a bit tired, I think the lithium in alkaline batterys is lithium hydroxide, I don;t think it's worth the effort to extract it, if you wanna make money off of drugs sell XTC, and if you want to make more money sell glowsticks at raves where they use it, think bugs to a bug zapper.

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[vulture]

I thought the small lithium batteries that are used in cameras contain pure Li and SO3 or SO2 (liquified), that's why they explode if you heat them.
Trying to opening it could cause a fysical explosion and would poison you because of the momentarily overpressure of SO3(or SO2, i'm not sure about that)

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[Lagen]

Well there are currently about 10 different types of "lithium batteries" in use. Amongst the non-rechargeable ones its the lithium liquid electrolyte cells containing metallic lithium as the anode and SOCl2 as the cathode (sometimes MnO2 or polycarbon fluorides are used instead). There are also non-rechargeable lithium cells with solid electrolyte, this is the kind used for backing up old-style CMOS setup memory (the box type cells, not the button cells used nowadays for real time clock). As for the rechargeable batteries containing lithium, the most common types are Li-Poly, Li-Ion and Li-Metal. Again these contain the lithium in metallic form at the anode. Someone mentioned the use of lithium hydroxide in batteries. It is present to a small extent in NiCd batteries with KOH electrolyte (not in alkaline, which also use KOH). This is really just an additive, and is not worth extracting. Also, sometimes it is replaced with NaOH.

The only good use for it I can think of, convert it to lithium nitrate and use it as a catalyst in making RDX, to increase the yield. But keep in mind that opening a lithium metal containing battery will almost invariably result in a fire/explosion, which is caused by the smallest trace of moisture entering the cell.

[nbk2000]

Open the battery up under kerosene. This excludes oxygen and water, preventing ignition.

Use a small punch to make a hole to relieve pressure, then cut open. The sulphuryl chloride is insoluable in oil, I believe, so it'll sink to the bottom.

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[BrAiNFeVeR]

Yeah, I'm sure I'll feel safe opening a small battery, that can ignite the kerosine, when hanging with your face over it !
I don't want to risk my face and hands getting burnt all over for just a tiny amount of lithium !!

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[nbk2000]

Lithium can't ignite kerosene.

It would require water and oxygen, neither of which is present in kerosene.

It's SOP to cut sodium or potassium metal, both of which are much more reactive than lithium, under either kerosene or mineral oil.

Please learn the basics before commenting on something.

And a AA battery can contain a quarter ounce of Li or more.


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[Lagen]

Kerosene (and many other solvents too) can absorb moisture and form an emulsion. Gas stations have sensors for water and water-diesel fuel emulsion in the tanks, and there are similar sensors on planes. The emulsion/water rests at the bottom, which is where most probably your lithium cell would be. In any synthesis involving moisture sensitive reactants they dry the solvents
in a desiccator over sodium metal prior to use. To improvise this, you could try drying the kerosene in an air-tight bottle with some fresh plaster or something.

[nbk2000]

I presume the next thing someone's going to say is that lithium will spontaneously explode in flames if you fart while looking at it. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

YES, water can form an emulsion with kerosene. But that assumes adding in water and blending. It's like vinegar and oil, they form an emulsion, but they seperate over time.

And kerosene doesn't absorb water from the air, so unless you pour water into the kerosene, it'll never be more than miniscule trace amounts.

And since lithium can exist as a free element in the air without exploding or igniting, it's not that big a risk, as compared to say....white phosphourus or cesium.

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[a_bab]

Li does not spontaneously ignite in the air, nor in water. In water it reacts similar with Na, but it doens't even melt and the reaction is not too violent. It floats in petroleum or in mineral oil, as it's density is below 0.8 g/cmc.
I have some Li and I used to play with it. Maybe I'll upload a movie with it, but I have to make it. It would be much more easy with some pics.


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