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forgive me if this is redundant, but i've...

Started by superman, August 05, 2004, 04:17:00 PM

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superman

forgive me if this is redundant, but i've looked previously, and now again and can't seem to confirm my suspicion.  when checking the ph of a water/xylene mixture, obviosly the water is on the bottom.   if i remember correctly in high school they said to wet the ph papar and dip it into the np?   this sounds wrong.....

how do i measure the aqueus layer through the np?   do i have to empty it out and check then throw back into my sep. funnel?

thx,     just about to work up my first (hopefully) success!

yei

You might use a nice pipette, dip it right through the nonpolar layer, and draw out a sample.

If you are extracting something, you might just wait until you have basified it properly before adding nonpolar.


superman

SWIM's just about to base my post rxn liquid.   after basing the xylene should contain 1-1.5g meth.   so i suppose then that SWIM would just drain some of the aqueuos layer from the separatory funnel and check it.

thx

biffman

If you are doing an extraction or wash with a separatory funnel, just touch the stopper of the flask right after shaking to the pH paper (or indicator) and it should show you pH.

p2e3r4f5e6c7t8

Swip uses a 20ml syringe to get a PH sample beneath the non-polar solvent (meth base) ;)


biotechdude

A syringe works well.  Use thin plastic extender tubing and/or glass capillary tubes to reach the aqueous layer.  If working with larger volumes, just tap off a small volume, measure, then pour back in.  Its all about relative mechanical loss... 

TIP - when lowering the syringe through the NP towards the aqueous, it will 'swallow' some NP up the tip.  To overcome this, draw up the syringe a little before lowering so that when it is in the aqueous, you can squeeze the syringe to clear it.  Then suck up the aqueous.