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PolytheneSam

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What are these mushrooms?
« on: December 01, 2002, 08:04:00 PM »
I keep finding them everywhere.








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GOD

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Well, they're most probably not psylocybe's -no ...
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2002, 09:32:00 PM »
Well, they're most probably not psylocybe's -no bruising after swiy pinched them means no favorable alkaloids oxidising.

It can bee very difficult to ID mushrooms without a good look at their spores.  Youd need to take a print, as well as look at the spores under a microscope along with a good field guide to get a reasonable awnser.  Of course swiy knows not to put any foreighn objects in his mouth unless they are posativly identified...  Specially with mushrooms found in the wild, and even IF they where identified by someone in the know, it is always strongly reccomended to load up on milk thistle before ingestion to protect that liver of yours that you've been beating on for the past number of years :P .

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terbium

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Not psilocybe.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2002, 10:10:00 PM »
Well, they're most probably not psylocybe's -no bruising after swiy pinched them
Also the spores appear to be brown not the purple/black of psilocybe.

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BlingBling

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Did anyone hear..
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2002, 10:44:00 PM »
I was watching Headline news yesterday and on the bottom of the screen, in text, it said some russian soldiers killed other russian soldiers for consuming psychadelic mushrooms! I then went to cnn's site where I found no other info on it, or even a Russian CNN section!! How the fuck do these news stations tease you with some shit that makes you wanna get up and go check their web site, then have nothing about it there either!!!

Can someone verify this from Russia? Dovaltov or someone? If this really happened.. well, it's fucked up.

HOCATKA

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This mushroom-theory most likely was brought up ...
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2002, 02:54:00 AM »
This mushroom-theory most likely was brought up to conceal the real reason. Freshmen humiliation by elder soldiers is very common in Russian army, but nobody wants to be resposbile.

Aurelius

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shrooms
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2002, 11:10:00 PM »
how tall are they?  how wide are the caps?  thickness of stem?  what were they growing on?  any other shrooms in the area?  what color was the spore print?

PoohBearium

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Hey
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2002, 11:52:00 PM »
I've seen and sampled those shrooms before; we call them Psylocybe Noticus.

:)

PB

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they will never lie.
To achieve the answer,
you must hit a big orgasm.

cattleprodder

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A ? 4 PoohBearium.
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2002, 11:43:00 PM »
So did you trip or not, and if so, was it a mellow mushroom trip or a mushroom deliriant trip?

Liberty Caps look kinda like those pictures, but I'm no mycologist, and I don't claim to be at this time, either.
I did once notice purple bruises on some white shrooms that I ate once and tripped well enough from.

I do also know, however, that a girl in SC had to have a liver transplant a few days after eating some Angel Death 'shrooms.

'Shroom identification is not a laughing matter.

terbium

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Talking shit.
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2002, 03:44:00 AM »
So did you trip or not, and if so, was it a mellow mushroom trip or a mushroom deliriant trip?
Nah, that was just irresponsible BS.


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cHiLLy

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amANITa
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2002, 07:11:00 AM »
theres few things more insdious than the death caused by ingesting the amanita phalloides, or the desroying angel. it can take up to a week for your liver to cease function, and by then its already too late. So if you eat something bad, realize that just because you dont get sick immediately doesnt mean that you wont eventually die.

starlight

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not liberty caps
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2002, 11:05:00 AM »
liberty caps look nothing like the pictures above (unless there is a regional difference in naming which I don't think there is). Here is a picture:

http://mushroom.dk/svampe/imagesider/17.htm


odin

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This fungus on the picture is Marasmius Oreades, ...
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2002, 05:21:00 PM »
This fungus on the picture is Marasmius Oreades, look at any field manual (not psychoactive but good for making a meal). If it has a hard to brek leg and grows in rings, if not ,is some other Marasmius spp.

I know fungus (not just pans and psilocybes) ask me  8)

starlight

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i wouldn't eat it
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2002, 10:57:00 AM »
as the pics look a bit different to other pics of marasmius oreades:

http://images.google.com/images?q=Marasmius+Oreades&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search



I don't know enough to say what it is though (maybe you are right in saying it is another Marasmus but I would'nt like to eat something until I'd positively identified it).

odin

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Identification
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2002, 12:13:00 PM »
Star, it is very hard to identify fungus from picture only, but I am still prety sure that on picture is Mar. O. .Pics on Google are from representative fungi (school example), but in nature morfology, color vary...(time , place of growth).
To bee sure you can us good old chemistry for identification:
-tisue with phenol becomes deep brown
-with fenol-aniline it becomes red
-with sulfovaniline becomes red-violet (for short time)
Still I could bee mistaken!

starlight

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yeah, i'm sure you're right
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2002, 04:15:00 PM »
but i wouldn't eat them unless i was sure. and to be sure they have to look closer than that for me.

the other identification techniques that you mention sound interesting. Could also look at spores under microscope I suppose.

odin

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Yes, microscope analisys is even more reliable ...
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2002, 05:15:00 PM »
Yes, microscope analisys is even more reliable then chem. reactions. You can microscope spores, basidium(ascus), mycelium...
And about eating, be sure NOT to eat unidentified spp. of Amanita, Clitocibe, Inocybe, Coertinarius, Gyromitria... genus. And genus, let say Pans, Marasmis, Agaricus are not so dangerous. Even if you eat "poisonous" spp. from this genuses you can not get seriously hurt.

bbell

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cnn crap
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2003, 12:31:00 AM »
Yellow journalism or what? don't watch that propaganda it will kill your brain cells

big_cheese

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looks like a galneria species
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2003, 02:12:00 AM »
looks like a - galneria species cause they were growin in grass??      looks like it hey dont eat and if someone of these fuckers say eat dont listen unless you want sever liver damage or death .... if those arnt turnin blue  toss em      trust me i know


PolytheneSam

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I wasn't planning on eating any of them.
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2003, 02:21:00 AM »
I wasn't planning on eating any of them.  I was just wondering what they were.  I think I saw some red fly agaric (or something that looks a lot like it) one time, too.  I never tried them, though.


odin

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Galerina
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2003, 10:28:00 PM »
-?GALNERIA?-
Did you mean galerina spp., I never heard of genus you mentioned!
And this is not Galerina!

odin

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Blue
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2003, 10:34:00 PM »
big,
Do you maybe know that MANY Boletus spp., Inocibe spp. turn blue when you touch them. Blueing is definetly not reliable test for ident. psilocybes.

Daphuk_up

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My test...
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2003, 11:14:00 PM »

This is my simple test, usually performed on purchased fungi, rather than wild gathered variety.  First, does it have a tannish-brown to light orange cap?  Second, does it bruise blue?  Third, check the spore print color.  Should be a nice purple-black.  As far as I know, only fun-poison containing fungi (specifically psylocybe) carry all three of these characteristics.  If someone knows better, please feel free to enlighten me however.




big_cheese

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sorry
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2003, 05:12:00 AM »
sorry about spellin but i cant spell /....and yes blue is reliable if they fit the psilo key and to me the fungus is very close to that key and no im sure it isnt a bolote i dont see pores





odin

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What can this bee
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2003, 10:36:00 PM »
Boletus was only example, here you can find litle shroom (3-5 cm) that grows in grass, has a ring, is yellow-brown colored, has dark spores and turns blue where you cut it. Only obvious diference from Psilo. is cap form, that is Hygrocybe shaped.
I can not identifye it, not even genus. Any sugestions?